|Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 38):|
That one exception is the Japanese-Americans, many of whom are still alive, and who had to endure the humiliation of being locked up by their own country for no reason except for the color of their skin.
And the black Americans who've been denied due process, cheated, systematically eliminated from pursuit of the American dream from that same WWII era thru the 50's 60s and who's number far exceed those of the interred Japanese.. do not deserve an apology from a government that sanctioned their disenfranchisement?
As much as you like to paint yourself as 'a lover of history'..it completely escapes me how you cannot make the link between US BAD
History to what you love soooo much US FAVORABLE history. Making that link is not enough, 'understanding that BAD
HISTORY has cast a pall that reaches deep into this 21st Century. It reaches into the very heart of this very special Presidential Election looming ahead. If that BAD
History were not so far reaching, so stinging...this 2008 Election would be no different from 1960, 1968, 1976, etc...(I'd say 2000, 2004 but that's a whole seperate issue).
The Armenian Genocide incident is a perfect of when you 'let the past be the past' when a people has been don't wrong. The wronged party is hellbent on keeping it alive and never to you forget about. YOU don't live in a country where YOUR ancestors have been systematically and legally wronged with followup consequences (leading up to recent times). So your inability to want to, try to understand those who have is loud and clear. In other words, should you experience a pain so great..don't for a minute expect someone who hasn't experienced the same to have sympathy, empathy or understanding of your situation, past, present or future.
The US wrongs on the subject are on a galactic scale, it's far larger than the Japanese Interment. 5 years vs 300+ years..as I said it's consequences reach right into the heart of this coming election. So for you to dismiss it so easily.. you're not much different than the ''I-Had-Nothing-To-Do-With-It' types.
To appreciate history as you say you do, is a testimonial to your affinity to the human events on which history stands. If your are endeared to that, then you to, MUST by your, honor the pain and suffering by a people living this very day whose 'history' is shown on their face every time you see them..that's right, their skin color. And that skin color cannot be separated from a very horrendous past. Did that person suffer what his deceased ancestors suffer? Of course not. But has he suffered from a condition created and based on what happened to his ancestors..odds are he very well.. he might have. You don't know, you can't be sure. Does his thoughts on past and the present (apology/no apology) matter too? A person who appreciates history ponders about those outside his own scope/views/experiences. Now I could be wrong you could be one of those history buffs who likes to argue/debate war generals, strategies, political figures, events..but not give a thought of the effects on the common people/masses caught and subjected to the eventual outcome. Basically, a superficial amateur historian.
Blacks, for the most part hate discussing their painful history because it's it is so painful. And they hate discussing with most whites because they know most whites cannot do so honestly and without reaching for the 'I-Had-Nothing-To-Do-With-It' card. They know no one today had anything to do with it. But they pain of watching others in a lunch room, on tv discuss their proud heritage..yet they can't speak of their 'painful heritage' with the same enthusiasm -- because it makes people uncomfortable or start throwing out 'I-Had-Nothing-To-Do-With-It' cards ... instead of engaging in conversation.
This is why the state sometimes has to do what's right instead of waiting for the people to do it..because the people never, ever will.
See- House Formally Apologizes for Slavery, Segregation
With the people as confused as they always are (re:facts/wisdom/having foresight)..they'll never correct a social wrong unanimously or in a timelt fashion. The whole Civil Rights saga is verifiable proof of that. The state had to seize the day and make it so.
And this is one of those times the State foresees the wisdom in an action to benefit future generations (and current). The apology will make it easier for the most ardent of racists to actually contemplate a civil and thoughtful discussion on America re:Race and it's Horrifically Dark and Tragic Past...even though you cannot.
"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson