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For Herpetologists: Smallest Snake Discovered..

Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:30 pm

As a hobby-herpetologist,I'm thrilled to learn about the discovery of a new snake-species ( new family..) on the island of Barbados by biologist Blair Hedges of Pennsylvania State University.
The smallest snake in the world is a mere 4 inches long and thin like a spaghetti..
Unfortunately the snake's habitat is a restricted area on the island threatened by de-forrestation ( how come that sounds familiar..!!)



Islands are often the theater for the survival of distinct and rare species ,like the Ilha da Queimada Grande (off the South Brazilian coast and home for the rare Bothrops insularis (island pit-viper ) -which makes the island one of the most dangerous places on earth,considering the snake-density..

Hedges also discovered the smallest lezard -the 0.6 inch long Jaragua Lizard off the Dominican coast on Isla Beata.






http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...2008/08/080803-smallest-snake.html

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/ps-wss072808.php
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:32 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
Smallest Snake Discovered..

Somewhat unusual it wasn't from Asia.
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RE: For Herpetologists: Smallest Snake Discovered..

Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:18 pm

The Caraibes-Central American region is among the richest wild-life geographies (specially reptiles/amphibians ),so the discovery does not come unexpected. A small country like Costa Rica has more wildlife diversity than all of Europe combined.
Knowing our capacity to destroy those paradises for the sake of tourism or economic development ,the bio-diversity will shrink rapidly.
The main argument being inevitably of economic nature. Animals have no money-lobby !
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:16 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
The smallest snake in the world is a mere 4 inches long and thin like a spaghetti..

Wow, that is smaller than some of the earth worms I use when I go fishing!

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 2):
Animals have no money-lobby !

Snakes and lizards don't get much respect. If the animal in question is cute and fuzzy people are all about helping them out.
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:29 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 3):
Snakes and lizards don't get much respect. If the animal in question is cute and fuzzy people are all about helping them out.

Without snakes the rodent-population would explode and grain-harvests be affected seriously in third world countries.
But as you rightfully mention- not much of a "Lassie" emotion when observing a snake or lizard..
All animals-regardless of appeal-deserve our respect and protection.
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Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 4):
Without snakes the rodent-population would explode and grain-harvests be affected seriously in third world countries

I have found non-venomis snakes in my yard before, while mowing. I just leave them alone because I know they are keeping unwanted critters away.
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:20 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
Islands are often the theater for the survival of distinct and rare species ,like the Ilha da Queimada Grande (off the South Brazilian coast and home for the rare Bothrops insularis (island pit-viper ) -which makes the island one of the most dangerous places on earth,considering the snake-density..



A bit of a "Jurassic Park" feeling, doesn't it?

Snakes scare me shitless. They can stay in that island.
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:58 pm



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 6):
Snakes scare me shitless. They can stay in that island.

I'm afraid you have quite an interesting reptile population throughout Brazil - not just on
Ilha da Queimada Grande ..
Brazil has the honour to be home of the worlds lagest snake - the Anaconda,which measured by scientists , reaches up to 10 meters of lenght..just about 100 times larger than the little snake discovered .
But most snakes are more afraid of humans than you are about them - ..
(Only little exception being the Black Mamba in Central and South Africa,who has developed a quite independent and aggressive attitude towards the superior ape-species called human..)
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Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:03 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 5):
Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 4):
Without snakes the rodent-population would explode and grain-harvests be affected seriously in third world countries

I have found non-venomis snakes in my yard before, while mowing. I just leave them alone because I know they are keeping unwanted critters away.

Even poisonous ones. In the Philippines, I'd rather have a cobra living beneath the house than rats. And as long as I know where the snake is, I can get out of it's way. Then each of us will just mind his own business.
I respect snakes a lot, especially if I don't recognise the species and would never fool around with them, but I don't suffer of an irrational fear of them.

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Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 7):

I'm afraid you have quite an interesting reptile population throughout Brazil - not just on
Ilha da Queimada Grande ..

You are correct, to my terror.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 7):
But most snakes are more afraid of humans than you are about them - ..

Thankfully. Both for us humans and for their own good I suppose.
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RE: For Herpetologists: Smallest Snake Discovered..

Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:35 am

My grandfather lived in Phoenix, where there can be Rattlers around.

His solution was that when he want on a hike in the hills, he would yell "noise! noise! noise!" to make enough noise that he didn't startle a snake by accidentally sneaking up on one.

You get bit when you startle a snake. Otherwise they aren't the least bit interest in you and they would just as soon keep away.
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Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:09 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
His solution was that when he want on a hike in the hills, he would yell "noise! noise! noise!" to make enough noise that he didn't startle a snake by accidentally sneaking up on one.

With all due respect for your grandfather - snakes can't hear but simply sense the vibrations of approaching persons/animals or they smell them .Some also have heat-sensors allowing them to see in the dark the presence of prey animals.
But Arizona must be a great snake-country ,although not all of them very inviting for the average snake-fearing person.  Smile Most accidents happen anyway through stupid ,unneccessary handling of rattlers that should be left alone anyhow...
So if you hit strong enough the soil the animals would feel the approaching danger and would go for a hide. ( that is true for terrestrial snakes-not those living on trees like green mambas or other tree-snakes )
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