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Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:13 am

Why do some men really seek virgins?

I'm thinking it has to do with the fact that the guy wants a girl who has no frame of reference to compare him against.

Guys (men and teenage boys) know it, women and teenage girls know it -- women (and teenage girls) talk about anything and everything that went on during sex: What was said and done, comparison and critiques of techniques and quality of sex to previous boyfriends, and of course, of penile size compared to previous guys and some giggles if one fails to measure up.


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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:32 am



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Why do some men really seek virgins?

Beyond the whole genetic "I want my woman to be mine and mine only", I think it has something to do with simply being completely clueless (on the virgin-seekers' part, that is). Who the hell would want someone who does not know what they are doing in bed???  confused 

Not me, for sure.  cool 
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:34 am



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Why do some men really seek virgins?

Some of it is culturally rooted. But most of the time, its the fact that she is virgin! Not in terms of reference or anything but its more like you were the first one etc. Sexual experience with virgins is quite different in a good way....so maybe thats why
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:34 am

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Why do some men really seek virgins?

The older you get, it is nearly impossible to find.

I lost my virginity when I was 16, in the back seat of my dad's car, to a girl who a lot of guys in my school lost their virginity to.

I never bothered to seek out virgins. However I knew several. My friend, Heidi, didn't lose her virginity until she was 26 and got married.

My girlfriend, Stefanie, who is the woman I will marry. Lost her virginity when she was 27. I wasn't looking for a virgin, but she was the best friend of my best buddy's wife. I knew she was the woman I wanted to to be with forever after hanging out a few times. We dated for 2 1/2 years before she wanted to have sex. I waited because she was the woman I wanted forever and no matter how long it took I would wait. I love Stefanie and I respect her so I never even brought up the subject. One night I was at her house and she decided it was time.

Sure she didn't know exactly what to do, but instinct tells you what needs to be done. It was the best I ever had, not because she was a virgin, but because she is the woman I love and I plan to spend the rest of my life with her.

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
penile size compared to previous guys and some giggles if one fails to measure up.

I once had sex with a woman who was happy that I had a normal sized wheezer, she said the last guy she had sex with was like doing it with a thumb.

[Edited 2008-08-04 20:36:44]
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:40 am

I can think of reasons:

No STD"s

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 3):

My girlfriend, Stefanie, who is the woman I will marry. Lost her virginity when she was 27. I wasn't looking for a virgin, but she was the best friend of my best buddy's wife. I knew she was the woman I wanted to to be with forever after hanging out a few times. We dated for 2 1/2 years before she wanted to have sex. I waited because she was the woman I wanted forever and no matter how long it took I would wait. I love Stefanie and I respect her so I never even brought up the subject. One night I was at her house and she decided it was time.

Sure she didn't know exactly what to do, but instinct tells you what needs to be done. It was the best I ever had, not because she was a virgin, but because she is the woman I love and I plan to spend the rest of my life with her.

Well said, no wonder why you are on my RU list.

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:20 am

A virgin is about the last thing I am looking for. I like to relax and go at it, and like the security of knowing that we both know what works and what just doesn't. I guess I am not opposed to a virgin but it would have to be a pretty damn serious relationship for me to take on that baggage.

Maybe this is a sign of the times, but when I think "virgin" I tend to automatically associate that condition with the 15-17 age group, maybe that's why I'm so opposed.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:31 am



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
I can think of reasons:

No STD"s

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:08 am



Quoting Jpax (Reply 6):
Sex Ed wasn't taught in your high school, was it?

Yes, why do you ask?

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:44 am



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 7):

Yes, why do you ask?

Virgins aren't necessarily free from STDs... Oral sex, anal sex, using needles/razors, from birth, other bodily fluids- can all lead to STDs... look at herpes for example, and open sore and you touch it, boom, you likely now have that STD. No sex involved. Or crabs, those surely are easily transferable with no sex required.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:26 am

One thing might be that the girl will remember you forever.
The worst sex I've ever had was with a virgin BTW. She was like dead fish in bed.
But of course I was nice to her and told her it was ok.

[Edited 2008-08-05 00:29:26]
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:38 am

The question why men want virgins is one I can´t answer but those who believe that it is cool or whatever to have one are really primitive!

If you want sex, nothing else then rough pure sex, a virgin won´t be the girl you find.

If you meet a girl you like and she likes you you won´t give a damn if she has had zero or 100 men! My believe is that guys looking for virgins are trying to hide their lack of self confidence to please a woman who has experience!
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:13 am



Quoting AirStairs (Reply 5):
Maybe this is a sign of the times, but when I think "virgin" I tend to automatically associate that condition with the 15-17 age group, maybe that's why I'm so opposed.

When iI think of "virgin" I think of 747-400s, A340-600s and Richard Branson.

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:10 am



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 11):
When iI think of "virgin" I think of 747-400s, A340-600s and Richard Branson.

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When I think of "virgin" I think of Pendolinos and Voyagers.

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:58 pm



Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 12):
When I think of "virgin" I think of Pendolinos and Voyagers.

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:11 pm



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 15):
Whilst you are correct I do wonder how you know the names given to the various trains in VT's fleet?

I am quite happy to confess that I actually had to google for the names!
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:26 pm



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 11):
When iI think of "virgin" I think of 747-400s, A340-600s and Richard Branson.

Hmmm, didn't see any of those, or him, on the beach and you still kept your interest!  wink  I still remember that one with the really long brown hair playing with the volley ball. She was a beauty but I'll bet not a virgin!  laughing  The girl artist who did the pencil drawing....now there's a question mark! laughing 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:34 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 17):
Hmmm, didn't see any of those, or him, on the beach and you still kept your interest! wink I still remember that one with the really long brown hair playing with the volley ball. She was a beauty but I'll bet not a virgin! laughing The girl artist who did the pencil drawing....now there's a question mark! laughing

the drunk girl who kept falling over and letting them both hang out? The artist was cute, shame she wasnt up for having her photo taken.

Anyway enough, your making me want to book some flights. Kiev again next year?  Silly

I still stand by our decision to spend the day on the beach rather than at the aviation museum.
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:48 pm

Could be.....no comparism to be made  Smile
The thought of being the 1st guy.
In todays world is that easy?


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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:49 pm



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 18):
the drunk girl who kept falling over and letting them both hang out?

No, that chick was drunk and fat, a very poor combination. I was talking about the tall thin one playing with the other group we saw both times we were there.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 18):
The artist was cute, shame she wasnt up for having her photo taken.

True.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 18):
I still stand by our decision to spend the day on the beach rather than at the aviation museum.

Agreed, I am officially retired from death marching.  talktothehand 

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 18):
Kiev again next year?

At least for a long weekend. Then again there was Odessa, which you unfortunately missed out on.


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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:06 pm



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
you belong to him or her

My wife is not a pet or a car I hold title to, and I certainly wouldn't want to spend any serious time with a woman who felt possessive in the same way about me.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:19 pm



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 21):
I certainly wouldn't want to spend any serious time with a woman who felt possessive in the same way about me.

I don't know, I could be Jen Aniston's gigilo for a while.  wink 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:22 pm



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Why do some men really seek virgins?

It's a damned bad job but someone has to do it, as my old crew chief used to say.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:24 pm



Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 16):
I am quite happy to confess that I actually had to google for the names!

You could have just said that MYT332 mentions them in here every 5 minutes  Wink
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:37 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 20):
No, that chick was drunk and fat, a very poor combination. I was talking about the tall thin one playing with the other group we saw both times we were there.

i know... i just wanted to make you think about her  Silly
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:39 pm



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
I'm thinking it has to do with the fact that the guy wants a girl who has no frame of reference to compare him against.

Every now and then, one of the "adult" comedy channels on XM has a comic that brings this up. Actually, he references Islamic martyrs who are promised 72 virgins for martyrdom and how he (the comic) would not see that as an incentive to die for any cause. He says something like:

"72 whiny, needy virgins. 'Do you think I'm pretty? Promise you won't tell anyone what we did. Am I prettier than virgin 61?'"

He also explains (in some detail) about some of his fantasies and so forth.

But, as a gay man, I would not want a virgin. I guess we accept our partner has been with other guys and knows what he likes and does not like and is willing to share that information.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:42 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 26):
Every now and then, one of the "adult" comedy channels on XM has a comic that brings this up. Actually, he references Islamic martyrs who are promised 72 virgins for martyrdom and how he (the comic) would not see that as an incentive to die for any cause. He says something like:

"72 whiny, needy virgins. 'Do you think I'm pretty? Promise you won't tell anyone what we did. Am I prettier than virgin 61?'"

He also explains (in some detail) about some of his fantasies and so forth.

wouldn't it be funny if the 72 virgins were all men? What's a martyr to do?
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:53 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 27):
wouldn't it be funny if the 72 virgins were all men? What's a martyr to do?

Have you seen Jeff Dunham and Achmed the Dead Terrorist? Big grin
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:55 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 27):
wouldn't it be funny if the 72 virgins were all men? What's a martyr to do?

We might get an entirely new crowd of martyrs.  Silly

Quoting PlaneWasted (Reply 9):
She was like dead fish in bed.

Everyone was like that at first. After some practice everyone gets better.

Quoting Jpax (Reply 8):
anal sex

if she is doing that she isn't a virgin.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:59 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 29):
if she is doing that she isn't a virgin

Or isn't completely a she....

Sorry. It had to be said...
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:42 pm



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 17):
The girl artist who did the pencil drawing....now there's a question mark!

Now she was very pretty, I'm leaving it at just pretty because I'll also wager that she was only about 15/16, although I'm a crap judge of age, so I could be wrong!

Wonder if she'll still be there in two or three years though  scratchchin 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:46 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 31):
Wonder if she'll still be there in two or three years though

Jailbaiting are we now?  Silly
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:25 pm

This one is really funny!  laughing 

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 27):
wouldn't it be funny if the 72 virgins were all men?

Nowadays it is very common for some women (I suppose most would do because of religion and family) to be 'fake' virgins. They go to well known clinics where the surgeons will replace the missing part of membrane with an artificial one before the wedding.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:10 pm

Jpax,

While oral sex isn't sex (President Clinton established this fact), anal sex is indisputably sex. Penetration is involved...


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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:37 pm

Well, my girlfriend happened to be still a virgin when I met her (she was in her mid-20s, due to cultural issues in her home country, something like stay away from men until you have finished university and then get married and have many children), but I wasn't looking for a virgin, in fact, when I found out, I was rather afraid that I might hurt her.
We left ourselves plenty of time (about a year) to know each other and at some time she was ready and we managed to get through the issue slowly and gently, without any traumata, blood or pain on her side.
Now, 8 years after I met her, we are still together and most likely to tie the knot some day in medium future.
She is the woman I have the longest relationship with ever, and this includes my two failed marriages.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:50 pm



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 35):
we managed to get through the issue slowly and gently, without any traumata, blood or pain on her side.

I had the same situation. A little care, patience & understanding....it doesn't have to be a bad experience. It was one of our best experience actually.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:11 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 31):
Wonder if she'll still be there in two or three years though scratchchin

why wait? if theres grass on the pitch...  Silly
 
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:37 pm

If this...

Quoting Blackbird (Reply 34):
Penetration is involved...

...is the definition of loss of virginity, then surely someone performing oral sex on a man counts as sex?

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 3):
My girlfriend, Stefanie, who is the woman I will marry. Lost her virginity when she was 27. I wasn't looking for a virgin, but she was the best friend of my best buddy's wife. I knew she was the woman I wanted to to be with forever after hanging out a few times. We dated for 2 1/2 years before she wanted to have sex. I waited because she was the woman I wanted forever and no matter how long it took I would wait. I love Stefanie and I respect her so I never even brought up the subject. One night I was at her house and she decided it was time.

That really is credittable.

Back to the original post, quite often it's an ego thing, the person bragging that they 'broke someone in'.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:56 pm



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 31):
I'll also wager that she was only about 15/16

I'll take that wager. Up close it was pretty obvious she was around 20 or so. Just a petite woman is all.
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Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:06 pm



Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 38):
the person bragging that they 'broke someone in'

Not only that...some prefer the "tighter" fit....I don't think anyone here would like to throw a hotdog down the hallway either.
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:31 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 3):
We dated for 2 1/2 years before she wanted to have sex. I waited because she was the woman I wanted forever and no matter how long it took I would wait. I love Stefanie and I respect her so I never even brought up the subject. One night I was at her house and she decided it was time.

 thumbsup  Good for you man. It's pretty much how it went with my girlfriend and I. Waited and waited, (took a "break") came back and decided it was what we both wanted (being together) and it just happened.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
No STD"s

never mind...

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 20):
Then again there was Odessa, which you unfortunately missed out on.

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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:50 pm

The way my Rabbi in school put it "if you go to the supermarket and see someone pick up a tomato, then squeeze it and smell it and then put it back.....are you picking up that tomato?"

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Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:54 pm



Quoting JFK69 (Reply 42):
"if you go to the supermarket and see someone pick up a tomato, then squeeze it and smell it and then put it back.....are you picking up that tomato?"

Words to live by my friend, words to live by  laughing 
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Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:00 pm



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

I saw that as a joke once; the answer was "Because they can't stand criticism"

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 38):
...is the definition of loss of virginity, then surely someone performing oral sex on a man counts as sex?

But are you really penetrating? The mouth aye, but that doesn't count
I've always considered anything other than anal or vaginal sex to be fooling around

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:37 am



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 2):
Sexual experience with virgins is quite different in a good way

Different, yes. Good, not really.

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 18):
Then again there was Odessa, which you unfortunately missed out on.

Ya know, the one of the left has one hell of a (insert Ukrainian word for butt).

Quoting JFK69 (Reply 40):
The way my Rabbi in school put it "if you go to the supermarket and see someone pick up a tomato, then squeeze it and smell it and then put it back.....are you picking up that tomato?"

Yet most people go to the supermarket knowing that the tomato has most likely been squeezed, smelled and put back.  Wink
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Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:47 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 43):
Ya know, the one of the left has one hell of a (insert Ukrainian word for butt).

The really funny part is that she also has a little boy about 5 years old. I have another picture where they are standing together and he is dressed in a matching boys swimsuit. Same color and trim. Thought that was pretty funny.
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Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:04 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 43):
Different, yes. Good, not really

That depends how you approach it. As I said earlier...with a bit of care and patience it can be pretty good.
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Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:13 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 43):
Ya know, the one of the left has one hell of a (insert Ukrainian word for butt

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:14 am



Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 42):
I've always considered anything other than anal or vaginal sex to be fooling around

Try telling that to the father of my first girlfriend! LOL

He was not amused ..........  Wink
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RE: Why Do Some Men Want Virgins?

Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:37 am



Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 47):
Try telling that to the father of my first girlfriend! LOL

He was not amused .......... Wink

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:08 am



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 48):
some farmers can be rather protective of their sheep....

Let's leave your chequered past out of this!  Wink

I was trying to be serious!
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