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Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:57 pm

I surely hope this election does not end up going one way or the other based on Tire Pressure.

After ridiculing Obama's comments about how keeping your tire pressure helps fuel economy for the last few days, now he is agreeing with Obama..

Is this a flip-flop?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/ap_on_el_pr/obama

How do you keep your tire pressure were it should be. My car has one of those tire pressure monitoring thing-y's but, unfortunately it doesn't tell you which tire is low, just that there is a low tire.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:10 pm



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
How do you keep your tire pressure were it should be. My car has one of those tire pressure monitoring thing-y's but, unfortunately it doesn't tell you which tire is low, just that there is a low tire.

Buy a tire gauge, or get one from McCain's campaign...

Seriously, tires can lose pressure under normal use. I usually check mine every 2 or 3 weeks, and inevitably they need some air, not much, but some. You have to check them cold for it to be accurate. Driving for even a few minutes heats them up enough that a pressure check isn't accurate. I check mine regularly because the car handles better and the tires last longer if you keep them properly inflated. The extra gas mileage is a plus, but I don't know that the savings are even noticeable...

This really is a stupid issue. Yes, correct tire pressure will save you gas. But to claim 3 or 4 percent nationwide assumes that everybody has the wrong pressure in their tires to begin with. And for McCain to flip/flop on the issue is nuts...
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:28 pm



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 1):
This really is a stupid issue. Yes, correct tire pressure will save you gas. But to claim 3 or 4 percent nationwide assumes that everybody has the wrong pressure in their tires to begin with. And for McCain to flip/flop on the issue is nuts...

Obama also mentioned proper vehicle maintenance. I guarantee you that a majority of Americans don't properly maintain their cars, leading to less than optimal gas mileage.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:44 pm

This isn't a flip/flop. He says that keeping the tires properly inflated will save gas an help reduce dependance on foreign oil.

As I recall, Obama said something along the lines of: if people kept their tires properly inflated and the vehicle properly maintained we would save as much oil as we get get out of the ground from drilling. That, my friends, is just plain ignorant.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:59 am



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 1):
But to claim 3 or 4 percent nationwide assumes that everybody has the wrong pressure in their tires to begin with.

it's much more than 3 or 4 percent.

Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 3):
This isn't a flip/flop. He says that keeping the tires properly inflated will save gas an help reduce dependance on foreign oil.

yes it is.

Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 3):

As I recall, Obama said something along the lines of: if people kept their tires properly inflated and the vehicle properly maintained we would save as much oil as we get get out of the ground from drilling.

that's incorrect.



the idea was suggested as an immediate idea of relief.

will it add up to the savings that off shore drilling will bring? no

is offshore drilling available right now? no

until offshore drilling would be available, would this provide a solution? sure.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:11 am



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 1):
This really is a stupid issue. Yes, correct tire pressure will save you gas. But to claim 3 or 4 percent nationwide assumes that everybody has the wrong pressure in their tires to begin with. And for McCain to flip/flop on the issue is nuts...

I would bet that 70-80 percent of all car users are driving on incorrectly inflated tires and 99.9% of people never check their spare in the case of a flat.

If taking magazines out of a plane can save something like $10,000 a year which is chump change to an airlines fuel expenses then having everyone inflate their tires properly can save the same margin and probably a lot more to the average driver.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:35 am



Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):
that's incorrect.

"There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy," Obama said. "Making sure your tires are properly inflated – simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling – if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much!"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71044

Sure does sound like that is exactly what he is saying. I wonder why the text of that speech isn't on his website.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:40 am



Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 5):
I would bet that 70-80 percent of all car users are driving on incorrectly inflated tires and 99.9% of people never check their spare in the case of a flat.

And even more are driving with dirty air filters or oil that's past due for a change or a whole host of other maintenance issues.
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:10 am



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 1):
And for McCain to flip/flop on the issue is nuts...

Just remember, backing up (or flip-flopping in this case) could lead to severe tire damage and a flat tire for Senator McCain.  rotfl 
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:24 am

And speaking of gaffes, John McCain's "Straight Talk Express" campaign bus managed to sideswipe a Ford minivan. The bus was making too-shallow right turn and scraped the parked minivan in Miami, FL. No, Senator McCain was not driving or even in the bus at the time of the wreck.

Source: http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/dentedtalk/
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RE: Tire Pressure -Gate 2008

Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 am

Convincing people to not race away from a stop, and instead accelerate at a more leisurely rate, would save a lot more gas. Probably more than inflating tires. Thats too much to ask of people though, so they will just tell us to inflate our tires. Maybe they could bring back full service stations so someone could actually check tires regularly, because honestly, Americans are lazy. If telling everyone to inflate tires is the best they have got, we are heading down shit creek without a paddle.
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