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War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:10 pm

Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?
I know usually foreign affairs have no real influence on US election but McCain might gain some profit from this.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:19 pm

McCain has said that he doesn't trust Putin who is still a major influence in Russian politics, and taking a line the opposite of GWB. In general I think he takes a very careful and suspect view of Russia, considering their serious corruption, control by the tiny numbers of the rich, their investments in the middle east especially as to nuclear materials and processing equipment that could end up as terror weapons. Obama has been vague or really has said little as to Russia. That may help McCain, but there are many more important issues, especially the domestic economy that will make the difference in who the voters choose.
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:29 pm

This might affect any plans Obama might have had to hold a political
rally in Red Square...From Russia With Love.

Actually, this affair might be over well in advance of the Novemebr election.
However, if it isn't, then it would be a serious foreign affair issue that would
probably influence some voters in November. And probably in McCain's favor.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:00 pm



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
I know usually foreign affairs have no real influence on US election

Who told you that?
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:17 pm

Georgia is pretty much a red state.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:44 pm



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?

No, this "war" will be over before the Olympics are.
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:14 pm



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
Who told you that?

Usually domestic issues are playing a higher role in US elections as foreign politics.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:29 am



Quoting Columba (Reply 6):
Usually domestic issues are playing a higher role in US elections as foreign politics.

So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about?  Wink
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:10 am

Given that most Americans think Georgia is a US state I doubt this will help McCain at all. You'd be lucky if 25% of Americans even know who the Presidents of each respective country are.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):
So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about? Wink

Pretty neglected by the so called Media these days, given that US involvement is winding down, regardless of whether Obama or McCain gets elected..The Iraqis are feeling very confident about their abilities and want the US out. I am sure the US will maintain some sort of presence, but things are drawing to a close there.
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:17 am



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):
So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about?  

Iraq is also a domestic issue regarding the US military is involved, Georgia (not the US state) and Russia don't affect the average American as much except that Oil and Gas are maybe getting more expensive.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:54 pm



Quoting Columba (Reply 9):
Georgia (not the US state) and Russia don't affect the average American as much except that Oil and Gas are maybe getting more expensive.

Oil by the barrel is dropping, so far down over $2 again today, and gas went down ten cents a gallon over the weekend... $3.60 a gallon here; how much is it in Germany?
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:03 pm

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
Given that most Americans think Georgia is a US state

It isn't?  Confused

[Edited 2008-08-11 11:04:12]
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:08 pm



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 11):
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
Given that most Americans think Georgia is a US state

It isn't? Confused

Should have said, "Is JUST a US State" rather than a country near Russia
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:08 pm



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 11):
It isn't? Confused

Russia bombed our country? Why aren't we at war?!  Confused

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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:14 pm



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?
I know usually foreign affairs have no real influence on US election but McCain might gain some profit from this.

90%-95% of the population does not care one iota regarding a war between Georgia & Russia. Most people are tired of the foreign entaglements we are finding ourselves in, and the economy will likely drive most of the election decisions.

There is a saying that "all politics is local", and to some extent that is true, especially as it relates to areas that impact voters' wallets.

Insofar as this war leads to higher gas prices, it will just increase calls for more energy independence.

I don't see this as benefiting either politician (unless the US does something really dumb and we get into the middle of it). Then, if it is Bush leading us into yet another entanglement, it would actually be McCain that could suffer since his foreign policy is pretty aligned with Bush's.
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:34 am



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?

I think it's far too early to say. If it drags on, it could certainly become an issue in the election, but unless the fighting spreads it won't make much of an impact on the election here. Obama also has a few people on the rumored short list for VP that are very experienced in foreign affairs, which could help blunt any perceived weakness Obama may have in that area.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:35 am



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 10):
$3.60 a gallon here; how much is it in Germany?

Today the gas price is 1, 42 Euro per Liter.
1 gal = 3.785 L
One Dollar is 1.49579 Euro

Do the math ?

Much more as in the US !!!

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 15):
I think it's far too early to say. If it drags on, it could certainly become an issue in the election, but unless the fighting spreads it won't make much of an impact on the election here. Obama also has a few people on the rumored short list for VP that are very experienced in foreign affairs, which could help blunt any perceived weakness Obama may have in that area.

Well McCain has warned a lot from Russia and used a lot of" cold war language" so this conflict can convince people that McCain was right with his opinion about Russia and will be a better leader.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:05 am



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
You'd be lucky if 25% of Americans even know who the Presidents of each respective country are.

You'd be amazingly lucky indeed. I'd be willing to bet that number is considerably less than 1%
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:04 pm



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):
So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about?

Didn't you know Iraq is the 51st state, so it's now a domestic problem  Wink

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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:59 pm



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 13):

Should have said, "Is JUST a US State" rather than a country near Russia

Isn't Delta's largest hub there? Kinda risky having their largest hub so near to Russia, isn't it?  Smile.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:35 pm



Quoting JM017 (Reply 19):
Isn't Delta's largest hub there? Kinda risky having their largest hub so near to Russia, isn't it?

Well I read that the US military just transported Georgian troops back home...ATL I suppose, right? One hell of a trip to go from Iraq to ATL then on to Russia for a war.

Maybe they bought their tickets through Priceline...
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:43 pm

Confuscius:

General Sherman was the last to invade Georgia.  Smile

Depends on how long this war in Georgia last. If it's over before the Olympics are over, then it would have zero impact.
If it goes on longer, it could help McCain.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:46 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
Depends on how long this war in Georgia last. If it's over before the Olympics are over, then it would have zero impact.

Officially the war is already over.

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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:48 pm



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 22):
Officially the war is already over.

Georgia is saying the opposite.

Things are going well Aeroflot777.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:58 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
General Sherman was the last to invade Georgia.

IIRC, Freaknik was the last to invade Georgia.
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:21 pm

Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?

Depends. McCain's chief foreign advisor, Randy Scheunemann, was working for Georgia while working for the campaign. He also lobbied for Georgian interests. Didn't McCain also have eight people resign because they were working for the junta in Myanmar while on McCain's staff? Gotta worry about the company a person keeps. Or is that only about the church they attend? Don't even get me started about McCain's divorce and second marrige to his trophy wife...

(Edit for link)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080813/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist

[Edited 2008-08-14 08:22:11]
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:37 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 25):
Gotta worry about the company a person keeps. Or is that only about the church they attend?

Kinda like keeping company with convicted felons like Tony Rezko and Detriot's soon to be convict mayor? How about getting more money from Exxon than McCain and then calling McCain a stooge of Exxon?

Face it, NONE of these guys are angels. If you're looking for moral authority amongst politicians, you are in for a long search

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 25):
Don't even get me started about McCain's divorce and second marrige to his trophy wife...

You seem to ignore Carol McCain is still on good terms with Sen McCain. Like Mr. Obama's frankness on his prior drug use, Senator McCain blamed himself and was very generous in his divorce settlement and gives her lifetime support for her medical bills.

Source:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specia...ticles/0301mccainbio-chapter5.html

"Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite," McCain wrote. "But my marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."

"In the divorce settlement, McCain was generous with Carol, the mother of their daughter Sidney and two sons, whom McCain had adopted. Among other things, McCain gave Carol the rights to houses in Florida and Virginia and agreed to provide insurance or pay for additional treatment she was expected to require."

Carol, who remains on good terms with her former husband, generally has avoided reporters interested in hearing her side of the story.

For all your moralizing what do you think of John Edwards who cheats on his critically ill wife? JFK cheating on Jackie? Get over yourself. You're just picking at things.

McCain screwed up, and he admits it. He didn't BS his ex-wife and gave her a pretty generous settlement.
 
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RE: War In Georgia: Influence On US Election

Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:36 pm



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 26):
Carol, who remains on good terms with her former husband

Perhaps she feels better now that John allegedly called Cindy a word that ryhmes with runt.
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