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Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:21 pm

Do they give out no 1, 2 and 3 in olympics? That is, China no 1, USA no 2, Russia no 3 like that?

I doubt it.
 
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:38 pm



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Do they give out no 1, 2 and 3 in olympics? That is, China no 1, USA no 2, Russia no 3 like that?

No, they don't. Even if they did, the top two spots would likely be swapped.
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:46 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
Even if they did, the top two spots would likely be swapped.

What do you mean?
 
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:52 pm

The top 5 read as follows:

1. China: 51 gold, 21 silver, 28 bronze, 100 total
2. USA: 36 gold, 38 silver, 36 bronze, 110 total (not #1 as China has more gold)
3. Russia: 23 gold, 21 silver, 28 bronze, 72 total
4. UK: 19 gold, 13 silver, 15 bronze, 47 total
5. Germany: 16 gold, 10 silver, 15 bronze, 41 total
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:12 pm

I don't think you can take into account just the total number of medals. A gold medal has much more value then a silver or bronze...
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:12 pm



Quoting United Airline (Reply 2):
What do you mean?



Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 3):
2. USA: 36 gold, 38 silver, 36 bronze, 110 total (not #1 as China has more gold)

See, that is where the real question lies. Sure, the Chinese won more gold, but that doesn't say as much about the strength of the TEAM, which is what a ranking of countries really speaks of. The breadth of sports practiced at the elite level in the US is unmatched anywhere in the world. That is also indicated by the fact that the Chinese won huge chunks of gold medals in certain events that they specialize in, particularly diving and their questionable (on the women's side) gymnastics program.
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:29 pm



Quoting Bwest (Reply 5):
A gold medal has much more value then a silver or bronze...

Think about it this way. The difference between a gold, silver or bronze is often miniscule. Does Dara Torres loss by 1/100th of a second at the age of 41 have less value than a 24 year old Britta Steffen's gold? Is it more valuable to win 7 golds in diving and a bunch more in gymnastics, or does it mean something to win golds in almost all, if not every sport?
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:00 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
but that doesn't say as much about the strength of the TEAM

Total number of medals means nothing either. The US has dozens if not hundreds of sporters at the games. Other countries only have a handfull of players. If a country with 3 players wins 3 medals, then by your defintion they are better then the US. Yet, they will not show in the rankings.
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:31 pm



Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 7):
Total number of medals means nothing either. The US has dozens if not hundreds of sporters at the games

Obviously national rankings can't ever be fair as countries come in such different sizes. One attempt could be to divide the number of won medals by the country's population.

My guess would be that the UK would then be #1.
 
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:05 pm



Quoting Flexo (Reply 8):

Obviously national rankings can't ever be fair as countries come in such different sizes. One attempt could be to divide the number of won medals by the country's population.

My guess would be that the UK would then be #1.

Australia has 1 medal for every 464.000 inhabitants  Smile

Great Britain 1 for every 1.297.000 inhabitants, Germany one for every 2 million...
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RE: Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?

Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:05 am



Quoting Bwest (Reply 9):

Great Britain 1 for every 1.297.000 inhabitants, Germany one for every 2 million...

Then Jamaica is the best country with one for every 245,000....  Smile


We should keep in mind that the Olympics aren't really a competition between nations, like a football world cup, but between individual athletes. Granted that not everybody sees it like that nowadays, and in particular the Chinese are proud of having "won" the games, but I think that's the original thought behind it. I always saw the medal count as some sort of informative overview rather than the end-all and be-all of the Olympic Games.
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