zootrix
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Police And Gays

Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:49 am

Call it a silly question, but I am very curious. How do police perceive and treat gays; especially if they are a victim of persecution, harrassment, violence, hate-crimes, daily prejudices, etc. How seriously are they taken? (Apologies for any unwitting offence)

I am merely interested in the social dynamics and violation of civil rights in these scenarios.

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RE: Police And Gays

Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:14 am

I think it depends on the country, police service, and individual police officers.

I mean Take where I work....For the most part things are great...Helll our partner assault was one of the first to treat same sex partner assault the same as straight partners. We have a LGBT liaison committee made up of community and police...The Police chair is an Inspector( two ranks down from Chief...) this committee has been in existence since 1994..

However it is not all rosy...We have a couple of officers in a whole lot of shit for the way that they treated a lesbian couple.


I think mostly it is the individual officers...


I take Pride this weekend...It was a OT paid duty......The officers there, the guys, spent a lot of time posing with all the gay men. And the women posed as much with the Lesbians. No complaints or disparaging remarks...However a few other officers and it could have soured a lot of people and relationships.

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RE: Police And Gays

Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:41 am

I think it depends on where the officer is. I had a lot of trouble with an ex. He was very abusive and the police here were very good about the whole thing. I think if it had happened in Montana or Wyoming, we would not have gotten the same respect.
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RE: Police And Gays

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:23 am

Here Police forces do have LBGT liason officers and there is growing awareness on dealing with abuse, particularly within same sex relationships. You still get a few cases of officers being homophobic but at the same time there are a lot of gay and lesbian cops where I live.
 
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RE: Police And Gays

Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:28 pm

Didn't you know that all female cops are Lesbians.....at least that is what the bad guys keep calling us....like it is some all powerful insult....



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RE: Police And Gays

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:04 pm



Quoting Zootrix (Thread starter):
Call it a silly question,

Not a silly question at all.
Remember the Jefferey Dahmer case in Milwaukee?
Those Cops returned a victim to a vicious murderer. They didn't take the victim's calls seriously. They dismissed it as two gay guys having a silly lovers quarrel. In fact, the man was killing and eating people in his apartment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s...al_killers/notorious/dahmer/2.html

http://www.time.com/time/2007/crimes/16.html
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RE: Police And Gays

Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:12 pm



Quoting Zootrix (Thread starter):
Call it a silly question, but I am very curious. How do police perceive and treat gays; especially if they are a victim of persecution, harrassment, violence, hate-crimes, daily prejudices, etc. How seriously are they taken? (Apologies for any unwitting offence)

I am merely interested in the social dynamics and violation of civil rights in these scenarios.

I have worked with several police officers, and have watched them approach gay individuals before. The officer reactions noticed were fair, and they were treated as any normal person would be treated. I have also watched their reactions torwards say transvestites and so on, and still they approached them as normal people. Sure there were a few laughs afterwards, but I think the consensus among most police agencies and police officers mindsets is, that gay people are just as human as non gay people. In fact, I think and would probably be interested to see, that you will get less violence and issues from the gay community when it comes to crimes.

But, keep in mind that you still have alot of old timer cops that have a mindset that is against gays. I really could not tell you how they approach these situations. With how the world has changed, and the importance of civil rights, I would hope that these old timers use equal rights approaches to someone that is gay. The good thing though is that police training and constant video cameras, may change the way officers react to anyones civil rights.

Great question by the way! Look where the world is today! Gay couples, potential African American presidents, and a world where one can express themselves a little more.
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RE: Police And Gays

Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:11 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Those Cops returned a victim to a vicious murderer. They didn't take the victim's calls seriously. They dismissed it as two gay guys having a silly lovers quarrel. In fact, the man was killing and eating people in his apartment.

That was a lot of BS any way you look at it. First off The kid had no ID and was only 14. Regardless if the cops thought it was a lovers fight they should have checked out the kid's identity before returning releasing him. I would be suspicious of any naked person on the street.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 2):
think if it had happened in Montana or Wyoming, we would not have gotten the same respect.

You never know. A lot of good ole' boys look at the law as the law and if you break it you go to jail.
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RE: Police And Gays

Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:37 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 7):
I would be suspicious of any naked person on the street.

Unless it's here in San Francisco. That is quite the norm here.  Smile
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RE: Police And Gays

Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:44 pm

One of our neighbors is a state trooper. At a party a few months ago this subject came up. The trooper said "We are really forced to treat everyone the same. We can get our asses in big time trouble if we don't. Even if it is a 6'5" black drag queen in a Honda speeding up I-45 at 90mph because she's late for a drag show in Dallas".
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RE: Police And Gays

Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:00 pm

I think it depends on the location as well, some of the more progressive and gay friendly cities I think have a pretty supportive gay police force. I know in Atlanta and San Francisco they have a special task force that looks out for the GLBT community in those cities, at least that's what i've been told. I'm sure there are similar task forces in other cities as well.

I actually looked into becoming a police officer, specifically with the police department in Charlotte, NC and Richmond, VA . Because of the fact that I am gay it was important to know exactly how gay police officers were treated. I got the sense that it wasn't a big deal, at least in those two cities, all they really cared about was whether you were willing to have their back in a rough situation.
 
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RE: Police And Gays

Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:24 pm

They beat them with big sticks as they do black people...................... Big grin
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RE: Police And Gays

Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:22 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Unless it's here in San Francisco. That is quite the norm here.  

I was naked the first time I ever met Aeroflot777 (admittedly he had come to USF pool to see his old [and my current] swim coach and we happened on each-other in the locker room). But it was in SF. And I was naked.

Kinda embarassed, too...
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RE: Police And Gays

Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:26 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
I was naked the first time I ever met Aeroflot777 (admittedly he had come to USF pool to see his old [and my current] swim coach and we happened on each-other in the locker room). But it was in SF. And I was naked.

Not sure if Aeroflot777 wants that information public.
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RE: Police And Gays

Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:52 am

Well he was clothed. And we were in a men's locker room. So, while funny as hell, it is no way inappropriate, illegal, or even ethically questionable.
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RE: Police And Gays

Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:12 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
Well he was clothed. And we were in a men's locker room. So, while funny as hell, it is no way inappropriate, illegal, or even ethically questionable.

You are right but the setting and everything definitely makes the story much hotter  Big grin

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