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9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:03 pm

His crime? He is to good! He throws almost 40 mph, a speed deemed too dangerous for other 8- to 10-year-olds to step in against. His coach was told the boy must play some other position or the team would be disbanded.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/8495030?MSNHPHMA
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:17 pm

One more step in the pussification of America.

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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:18 pm

At what speed are kids pitching in the Little League World Series these days?
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:27 pm



Quoting Victrola (Reply 2):

From 46 feet, they're pitching from 65-75 mph, which is equivalent to 85-105 mph from 60 feet, 6 inches.

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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:34 pm

Well then, I don't see the problem. When I was a kid in Little League, you had several divisions:

AA

AAA

Minors

Majors.

I don't see the problem with the 9 year old pitching in the minors or majors.
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:07 am

That is so stupid to punish him for being above average. Thats whats wrong with our country.
They are also sending the message to the other kids that they can never beat this kid
and that they should not even try.

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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:22 am

And they're sending the message "sorry son, you're a really good player, but you can't play." whats next, "straight A's? well son, thats great, but we're pulling you out of school." The only thing i would worry about is shoulder or elbow injury from throwing so hard at a young age. But the kid has a given talent, and shame on that league for not letting him use it.
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:42 am

Here's a trailer for a movie coming out soon. Very Orwellian.

The premise is that in 2081, the human race will finally achieve equality. The strong have to go through life with weights strapped on to negate their advantage. the intelligent have ear implants which give loud noises to disturb their ability to think. People with pretty faces must wear masks, and so on.

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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:27 pm



Quoting AndyinPIT (Reply 6):
And they're sending the message "sorry son, you're a really good player, but you can't play." whats next, "straight A's? well son, thats great, but we're pulling you out of school."

Well, they already have the No Child Left Behind program, so this wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 7):
The premise is that in 2081, the human race will finally achieve equality. The strong have to go through life with weights strapped on to negate their advantage. the intelligent have ear implants which give loud noises to disturb their ability to think. People with pretty faces must wear masks, and so on.

Based off of Kurt Vonnegut's (1961) "Harrison Bergeron." Interesting read, remember reading this one in high school. You can read it here:

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:04 pm

So the f*ck what? Let him play in a different age group or different league. If he's exhibiting that kind of talent this early, challenging him will only accelerate his development as a player. The people kicking up the fuss about this are the pussies not the league.  Yeah sure

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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:57 pm

what crap. The kid has darn good form, he can be a star...IF it is developed. I'm so sick of this junk...parents are so afraid of their kids having to face reality that they will lose sometimes, and it's going to hurt them bigggg time down the road. I will certainly not be that kind of parent!
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:13 pm



Quoting SW733 (Reply 10):
The kid has darn good form, he can be a star...IF it is developed.

Yes, if developed he would be a great pitcher I am sure. Now all these coaches want kids throwing curve balls and sliders at age 10 and 11 years old in Little League! All that does is ruin a kids arm. Stick to the fast ball and the simi-fast ball.

When I was in the "Majors" for Little League at age 8-12, my buddy was pitching in the 60MPH range and I was just shy of that. No one ever asked us to pitch slower than we were. In fact, we played on different teams and made for great rivalrys. But an undeveloped pitcher at 9 years old that pitches junk can hurt you. When my buddy and I hit our Freshman year playing in JV, he was no longer pitching and could bairly hit the 75MPH mark while I was pitching up to 85MPH. When he was 11 he started to pitch curveballs and other "shuto" as he called it haha.

Let the boy play and coach him right. Welcome to the sport of baseball were some kids suck and some kids are good. They all just wana have some fun together.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:34 pm

I saw this on the local news. Its a shame. Its like encouraging kids to be mediocre. The kids seems like a really good boy who just wants to play baseball. They interviewed him and he said that he felt bad cause he thought he let the team down. Now thats nonsense.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:21 pm

I agree with this guys view of the situation:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=080827/kreidler
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:33 am

That type of decision can really affect a kid's self esteem. If baseball is truly his passion I hope his parents find a spot for him on another team. I can understand why parents are concerned about their kid getting hit by a fast ball, but I mean comeon. We are not talking about a bunch of toddlers.
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:27 pm



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 11):
Now all these coaches want kids throwing curve balls and sliders at age 10 and 11 years old in Little League! All that does is ruin a kids arm. Stick to the fast ball and the simi-fast ball.

You are right about this. The huge spike in Tommy John Surgery among children is directly attributable to the early throwing of breaking pitches, particularly sliders and slurves, but also curveballs. Even great curveball pitchers like Bert Blyleven didn't learn to throw benders until they were in high school, which is really where that stuff should be developed. Besides, the best pitchers have always been the ones who could command and locate their fastball.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:39 pm

We had a similar thing happen in our league. Only our issue was a 11 year old girl who has been clocked fast pitching at 65 mph. She is extremely talented , and her parents spend $$ in lots of private coaching.

The problem is she joins a little league division where the vast majority of girls are just your average have fun types. Nothing wrong with that at all, but she could pitch no hitters every time.

We requested that her parents sign her into the next age level division.. 12-15 year old division. They did , and it all worked out. Look out for this kid , definite NCAA material in the future.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:43 pm



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16):
Only our issue was a 11 year old girl who has been clocked fast pitching at 65 mph.

Fast pitch softball? If so, that is insanely fast for her age. That would be fast for an 11 year old boy with a hard ball going over the top.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:29 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Fast pitch softball?

She has perfect form and follow though ,, and is amazingly strong. I personally have never seen her clocked to prove the 65 mph but my team had absolutely no chance of hitting her. It was not even close .. and I had some decent hitters on my team.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:35 pm



Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 14):
If baseball is truly his passion I hope his parents find a spot for him on another team.

He already has a spot on another team, where he's only the number 4 pitcher (whatever that means). He was offered to join a team in a league more suited to him, but his parents said no.
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:43 pm



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16):
The problem is she joins a little league division where the vast majority of girls are just your average have fun types. Nothing wrong with that at all, but she could pitch no hitters every time.

We requested that her parents sign her into the next age level division.. 12-15 year old division. They did , and it all worked out. Look out for this kid , definite NCAA material in the future.

This is exactly what I suggested when a co worker and I were discussing this the other day. No one is saying the kid CANT play, he just needs to be put into a division where his skills are better matched to his competitors. I'm sorry, but when you are 9, you dont need a kid throwing 40 mph fast balls, chances are this is more of a recreational league, what is the point? And what kind of parent has their kid throwing that fast at that age? That said, this story really should be a non issue, its just some parents and a coach who feel they need 15 mins to show off their kid.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:04 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):

With your hightened sarcasium I am taking it you were someone who either...

A) Never played the sport
B) Think you know the sport and commentate on a lot of things

or

C) Sucked at the sport and sat the bench all the time outside of the required 2 innings for each player.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:09 pm

After reading the article, it looks like it is the kid's parents who are being unreasonable.
The kid should be playing in a league more suitable to his abilities. If he is serious about baseball, he would recognize that he is better off in the higher league where he would have more of a challenge.
 
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:49 am



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 18):

She has perfect form and follow though ,, and is amazingly strong.

That is very impressive.

Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 21):

That was absolutely inappropriate. I was AGREEING with your post.
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RE: 9 Year Old Banned From Pitching In Little League

Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:35 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 23):
That was absolutely inappropriate. I was AGREEING with your post.

Then I am scencre when I offer my appologies. It seemed like you were being sarcastic with me. Once again, I am truley sorry.
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