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Jetsgo
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DVD Player Rant

Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:39 pm

Ok, I have a small rant I would like to bring up regarding most DVD players I have ever come across. I can not stand how when I try to skip the preview commercials in the begging and go straight to the menu to play, it says something along the lines of "not allowed." What the hell? Why is this not allowed? Why can I not skip the commercials on a movie I own and go directly to the movie? Why must I have to fast forward it at my own inconvenience? Anyone who can shed light on this, that'd be great...

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RE: DVD Player Rant

Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:44 pm

Quoting JetsGo (Thread starter):

I have found this an inconvenience myself. This is the only reason as to why I hate the DVD formats. I am increasingly seeing this problem on newer movies nowadays. Have you tried pressing the home button instead of skipping the chapters? Sometimes that works. But it still sure annoying as hell!

On VHS, it was easier just to fast forward it to the movie without having to suffer.

Edit add: Its not the DVD Player.... its how the DVD itself was formatted. Why this is done is beyond me.

[Edited 2008-09-09 16:45:48]
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:49 am

This is easily avoidable by burning DVDs without the stupid menus onto blanks and/or downloading movies.
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:24 am



Quoting JetsGo (Thread starter):
Why can I not skip the commercials on a movie I own and go directly to the movie? Why must I have to fast forward it at my own inconvenience? Anyone who can shed light on this, that'd be great...

It's quite simple really- They want to bombard you with their product's. Just like advertising on the tv so they programme the dvd so it cannot be skipped on the commercial's.Yes I agree it's wrong to do this on a product you have paid for and downright annoying.

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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:26 am



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
This is easily avoidable by burning DVDs without the stupid menus onto blanks and/or downloading movies.

With the anti-piracy laws, it is now extremely hard to do that directly from a DVD as they are formatted to prevent copying to your computer.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:01 am



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 3):
It's quite simple really- They want to bombard you with their product's.

It can't be entirely for advertising reasons. I've noticed the FBI anti-piracy messages cannot be skipped over or fast forwarded through. I'm sure the FCC must have had some say in this matter.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:19 am



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
With the anti-piracy laws, it is now extremely hard to do that directly from a DVD as they are formatted to prevent copying to your computer.

Are you implying it is hard to physically copy a new release DVD? What bubble do you live in.
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:47 am

There's a brutally low-tech work-around. It's called putting in the DVD and then doing something for a few minutes while it plays the previews. Pop your popcorn, pour your soda, take a dump, etc. Then when you're done, the movie is ready to go.

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Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:56 am



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7):
There's a brutally low-tech work-around. It's called putting in the DVD and then doing something for a few minutes while it plays the previews. Pop your popcorn, pour your soda, take a dump, etc. Then when you're done, the movie is ready to go.

Im not familiar with your womanly vocabulary in the form of "Soda"

Perhaps you are thinking of Pop?
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:58 am

Actually, I committed the moral sin in the south of calling anything carbonated in a can something other than coke. Movies are a great reason why no one should call them pops. Pop your pop corn and pour your pop? Only in the midwest.  Wink
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:00 am



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7):
Pop your popcorn, pour your soda, take a dump, etc

I don't know about you, but that's an awful lot to get done in a few minutes. I'd be quite a bit aways into the movie before I got done with all those.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
Im not familiar with your womanly vocabulary in the form of "Soda"

Perhaps you are thinking of Pop?

At least neither one of you called it coke. That's my number 1 gripe about people from the South - always referring to every kind of soda pop as "Coke" - even Pepsi!

*Yes I realize I'm opening up a whole can of worms that could easily be its own thread, but I needed to say that.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:21 am



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 2):
This is easily avoidable by burning DVDs without the stupid menus onto blanks and/or downloading movies.

Obviously. But I am talking about a DVD I paid for. When I pay for something, I shouldn't have to be further bombarded with advertisments. I can understand if it was free, or when it's on television, but not when I paid for it.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7):
There's a brutally low-tech work-around.

Smart ass.  Yeah sure

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):

Perhaps you are thinking of Pop?

Negatory. Pop. God, that just drives shivers down my spine. It's soda.

Quoting DukeofDashes (Reply 10):
At least neither one of you called it coke. That's my number 1 gripe about people from the South - always referring to every kind of soda pop as "Coke" - even Pepsi!

Although bad, and somewhat ignorant, at least they don't call it pop.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:44 am



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 11):
Negatory. Pop. God, that just drives shivers down my spine. It's soda

Drink = Pop
Bake = Soda
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:39 pm



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 12):
Drink = Pop
Bake = Soda

Soda Pop?

There are several variations of the same thing within English, and that exists across multiple other languages.

If you really want to make your head spin, there read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_drink_naming_conventions
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:47 pm



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1):
This is the only reason as to why I hate the DVD formats.

When DVDs first came out they were premium products and had no extra junk on them like commercials and previews. None of my 10 year old DVDs have that crap on them, but my newer ones do (even those with older movies). Laser Discs were also a premium product, you didn't get commericals and previews on them either. Only on VHS and Beta did you find that.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
With the anti-piracy laws, it is now extremely hard to do that directly from a DVD as they are formatted to prevent copying to your computer

I copy stuff all the time, without a computer. I use my old (1998) DVD player to play the movie then I run the RCA cables to my modern DVD "recorder", then out to the TV. It works everytime. When you play the copy you just get the movie. I don't get the menus and I can't control any special features, but I only care about the movie anyway.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
Im not familiar with your womanly vocabulary in the form of "Soda"

Perhaps you are thinking of Pop?

When I lived in Mid Missouri I would hear people from St. Louis, like me, say Soda and those from Kansas City say Pop. I would say Soda-Pop to avoid any confusion.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:26 pm



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 3):
It's quite simple really- They want to bombard you with their product's. Just like advertising on the tv so they programme the dvd so it cannot be skipped on the commercial's.Yes I agree it's wrong to do this on a product you have paid for and downright annoying.

The producers of the DVD will tell you that putting the commericals on the disc allows them to sell it to you at a cheaper price.

Now, I don't believe that - but it is what they say.
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:42 pm



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 15):
The producers of the DVD will tell you that putting the commericals on the disc allows them to sell it to you at a cheaper price.

I have been buying DVDs for 10 years and the price has not changed much at all. Laserdiscs were really expensive new (no commercials). The last new Laserdisc I bought was in 1998 and it was $80 the first DVD I bought was in 1998 and it was $15 (no commercials either).
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:05 pm



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 11):
When I pay for something, I shouldn't have to be further bombarded with advertisments.

Precisely why I refuse to pay for cable television. The content people are paying for is often less than half of the total content being provided. The rest is advertising.

It's a losing battle, though. We pay for magazines, which are filled with advertisements. Same with newspapers. Aside from books, virtually no media is untouched by advertisements.

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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:55 pm



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 17):
Aside from books, virtually no media is untouched by advertisements.

That reminds me of a quote from Futurama:

Quote:
Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"

Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

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RE: DVD Player Rant

Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:12 pm



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 6):
Are you implying it is hard to physically copy a new release DVD?

Yup! I tried to copy Juno to my computer, it wouldn't do it. It is embedded with a code that does not allow the computer to copy the movie. There is even an anti-piracy logo on the back of the box. I don't live in a bubble, but thanks for asking.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 14):
When DVDs first came out they were premium products and had no extra junk on them like commercials and previews. None of my 10 year old DVDs have that crap on them, but my newer ones do (even those with older movies). Laser Discs were also a premium product, you didn't get commericals and previews on them either. Only on VHS and Beta did you find that.

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Quoting Falstaff (Reply 14):
I copy stuff all the time, without a computer.

That was then. This is now.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:53 am



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 19):
That was then. This is now.

True, but I copy DVDs without a computer.... It isn't as fancy, but it works.
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:23 am



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 19):
Yup! I tried to copy Juno to my computer, it wouldn't do it. It is embedded with a code that does not allow the computer to copy the movie. There is even an anti-piracy logo on the back of the box. I don't live in a bubble, but thanks for asking.

I believe you do live in a bubble. There is a plethora of software that you can download that will break any copyright layer on any DVD. (Im not saying its legal) Im just saying its about as hard to do as recite the alphabet.

I fully believe in receiving your audio/visual in any means possible that does not require payment to various organizations and association that rape the living crap out of you (except for the internet which there really is no way around if you dont have $$$$$/month).
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:27 am



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 21):
I believe you do live in a bubble.

Says a lot, coming from Poland.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 21):
There is a plethora of software that you can download that will break any copyright layer on any DVD. (Im not saying its legal) Im just saying its about as hard to do as recite the alphabet.

I'm simply saying that my computer will not do it. How hard is that to comprehend??
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:08 pm

How I deal with this is by surfing a-net or doing an activity till the menu comes up or go to the first chapter to avoid all this bull crud.

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RE: DVD Player Rant

Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:29 am



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 22):
I'm simply saying that my computer will not do it. How hard is that to comprehend??

Well then buy yourself a DVD burner.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 22):
Says a lot, coming from Poland.

DVD X Copy sure as hell didnt come from Poland.
 
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RE: DVD Player Rant

Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:47 pm



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 24):
DVD X Copy sure as hell didnt come from Poland.

Never said that, but thanks for playing.  wave 
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