Triebwerk
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Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:34 am

Tell me what you think of this design. I tried to model it as a 747 tail, though I did take some artistic liberty with the rudder separation and overall proportions. It might seem a little corny, but I hope you like it!  

(Click on the link below, then click on the blue or black "JVS" link once you get to the site.)
http://tinyurl.com/5xzkhd

[Edited 2008-09-24 20:34:52]
 
scrubbsywg
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:52 am

so what is the benefit of using tinyurl when linking directly to your blog?

But about the design, seems like a limited market, no?
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:17 am

Well, it'll be a hit at airshows in places like Oshkosh!
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:28 am



I'm sorry, couldn't resist.  rotfl 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:17 pm

OK. I grant you that it´s humorous in a rather dorky way.

But really, why is it necessary for people to advertise their religion? Isn´t your religion supposed to be between you and God?
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:38 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):
Isn´t your religion supposed to be between you and God?

I saw a billboard outside a church yesterday... "Lying in bed shouting 'Oh God' does NOT constitute going to church!"
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:36 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 4):

I agree with you to the extent that faith should never be made a commodity nor materialized (which is why I'm not a fan of wearing cross necklaces--I like to think that I wear that cross inside). But I think that you go too far in saying that I "advertise" Christianity by making a link between Jesus and a vertical stabilizer.

I don't see this shirt as some ad for a religion, but a statement about the nature of Christ that is worth some consideration, if not deep analysis. I don't expect anyone to go to church for the first time in their lives because they see this shirt. (If that were the case, I would wonder how much faith and understanding they really had.)

As for your statement that my faith is supposed to be "between me and God:" well, you're right. That's whom I have faith in. But if religion were ONLY between God and I, I would never donate money to a charity. I would never have the chance to talk about God with other people. I would never be inspired to serve at soup kitchens or go to anti-genocide protests. If it weren't for me applying faith in public life, I never would have done any of these things--or make a dorky T-shirt.

You have the right to rebuke me if I am ever ostentatious due to my religion, just like Jesus took offense with those praying in public.I hope that you will. But if Christianity for me were reduced to a relationship between God and I, I would have much less of a chance to do good in this world.

Hope this cleared a few things up.  Smile
 
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Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:40 pm



Quoting Triebwerk (Reply 6):
I would never be inspired to serve at soup kitchens or go to anti-genocide protests. If it weren't for me applying faith in public life, I never would have done any of these things--or make a dorky T-shirt.

The funny thing is that I'm a devout atheist and I do charity work all the time. I work in soup kitchens because I like to cook and I work at charity health fairs because I'm a doctor. Why? Not because of a deity, but because I am a human and I should help other humans. That's why I've devoted my entire life's work to...helping other humans who can't help themselves; the ickle tiny ones who have no voice of their own (unless they're behind you on a plane, then they most certainly DO find their voices!  Wink ). But I do it because it's just the right thing to do.

Anyway, I respect your right to faith and your beliefs just as you should respect my right to reject them. But I do reserve the right to challenge people to question themselves.
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:33 am

Rest assured, my faith is challenged and questioned (by me) every day. The funny thing is that this only causes it to grow.

Thanks for the discussion!
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:42 am



Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, couldn't resist.

Lol, that just made my night!!! Thank you!


I thought it was a parody untill I looked up the band on google.... How sad!
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:10 am

I don't think it's advertising any religion, just someone who's special to you.

Just like wearing an I <3 New York t-shirt

cool shirt Big grin
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:05 am

Triebwerk: I love the design and I love the espousal of your faith. Good job!

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Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:52 am



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 10):

Just like wearing an I <3 New York t-shirt

Eww. Why would you EVER do that? (Wear the shirt OR love New York?)
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Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:56 am



Quoting Andz (Reply 5):
I saw a billboard outside a church yesterday... "Lying in bed shouting 'Oh God' does NOT constitute going to church!"

But it's so much more fun.  devil 

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Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:06 am



Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
But it's so much more fun. devil

Just following instructions and being fruitful and stuff...
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:12 am



Quoting Triebwerk (Reply 6):
I don't see this shirt as some ad for a religion, but a statement about the nature of Christ that is worth some consideration, if not deep analysis. I don't expect anyone to go to church for the first time in their lives because they see this shirt. (If that were the case, I would wonder how much faith and understanding they really had.)

Saying this respectfully, I don't think people who wear cross necklaces expect others to go to church for the first time after seeing someone else wearing a necklace with a cross on it.

Anyway, in linking flying and religion, I think Gen. Robert L. Scott nailed it best with "God is My Co-pilot".

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
Just following instructions and being fruitful and stuff...

Just who are you multiplying with?  wink 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:52 am



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 15):
Just who are you multiplying with?

a penguin?

 ill   spit 
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:43 am



Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, couldn't resist. rotfl

AHAHAHAHA, everyone should watch this! I dare you to try not to laugh!  silly 
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Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:49 am



Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, couldn't resist.

 rotfl 

I love that fucking song. Favorite lyrics:

"Once I tried to run - I tried to run and hide. But Jesus came and found me and he touched me down inside....."

Too damn funny!  rotfl 
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Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:14 pm



Quoting Andz (Reply 5):
"Lying in bed shouting 'Oh God' does NOT constitute going to church!"

Well I think I understand the meaning of this line but on a different note...

...something that we call people who sleep in from Church is that they go to Bed Side Baptist  Smile
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:26 pm



Quoting Kunoichi (Reply 17):

AHAHAHAHA, everyone should watch this! I dare you to try not to laugh!

I think it's funny too  Smile but it didn't 'make me laugh or anything...

Quoting Andz (Reply 5):
"Lying in bed shouting 'Oh God' does NOT constitute going to church!"

now that''s  rotfl 
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:40 pm



Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, couldn't resist. rotfl

I first saw that on the Total Axxess website the other day. I was laughing SOOOO hard. Here's some better, more representative of today's trends, Christian music:

http://www.reunionrecords.com/brandonheath/preview/video/index.html



And the very humorous, non-religious content music of Christian artists can be a hoot too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA_LDKz3Tc0
 
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RE: Religious Shirt For Plane Plans?

Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:37 am



Quoting Tripleboom (Reply 21):
Here's some better, more representative of today's trends, Christian music:

I'm not a fan of that style too much but there are many christian rock songs/bands today that easily sound better than the current secular rock that MTV and the radio plays. There's christian spanish rock that is very good as well. Secular American rock has been declining in quality for a while now.

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