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A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:19 pm

I am an young jazz pianist/singer and love everything about jazz. I frequent the few jazz places here in Nashville regularly. I love the Be-bop/Hard-bop era's of Jazz and particularly love Thelonious Monk and Bud Powell. Are there any jazz aficionados here on a.net? If so, what style(s) do you like and who are some of your favorite artist(s)?

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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:22 am

Well, imagine that...jazz in Nashville! (j/k - Actually, Nashville is a somewhat underrated city for music aficionados.)

As for the musical idiom of jazz, my favorite style/era is the bop era. Favorite jazz artists:
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Dexter Gordon. Though a 'bopper' early in his career, he's one of the orginators of the "West Coast" style of jazz. A prison stint in the mid 50s probably cost him greater reknown in jazz circles. Became a U.S. expat in the mid 60s - and, in the process, found greater acclaim in Europe. Returned to the U.S. in the late 70s.

Dexter's playing on ballads really touches me. Such lyricism coming from that sax. Young guys, if you want to bed that special gal, get her in the mood with Dexter Gordon.

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Lee Morgan. Apologies to Wynton Marsalis fans, Lee was the real deal on the trumpet. Got his start at 18 with Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers. His command of that horn...the ability to play uptempo, bluesy. Play the spectrum from higher octaves to practically guttural sounds. A good touch on the ballads, too.

Best known for his early 60s jazz-pop crossover hit, "The Sidewinder". Lesser known was his forays into avant-garde jazz in the late 60s.

Died in 1972 in NYC due to a gunshot wound.


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Harold "Tina" Brooks. A very unhealded and, IMO, underrated sax player. His brief career spanned the late 50s-early 60s, and consisted of four albums - two not being released until the mid 90s. Like so many of the great jazz musicians of the past, substance dependancy was his Achilles' heel. His addiction ultimately led to contracting liver disease, from which he succumbed in 1974.
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:08 am



Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
Are there any jazz aficionados here on a.net? If so, what style(s) do you like and who are some of your favorite artist(s)?

First off, see if you can locate a copy of Ken Burns' smoking hot 9-Part documentary entitled 'Jazz' which aired on PBS a few years back. It will tell you all you ever needed to know about jazz and much much more. Every Jazz fan should own a copy of this.

I prefer the Masters of Jazz, America's greatest composer the Duke, the genuis Miles Davis

Modern Day Jazz (and smooth Jazz artist): the late great Issac Hayes, Earl Klugh, Peter White, David Benoit, Either of the Marsalis Brothers (Wynton or Branford), George Benson, David Sanborn.

But I hold a great passion for Latin/Afro-Cuban and Brazilian Jazz

Willie Bobo
Chick Correa
Joao Gilberto
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Sergio Mendes

Jazz/Blues Vocals: Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Natalie Cole and Astrud Gilberto

and Japanese jazz guitarist: Masayoshi Takanaka


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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:44 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 2):
First off, see if you can locate a copy of Ken Burns' smoking hot 9-Part documentary entitled 'Jazz' which aired on PBS a few years back. It will tell you all you ever needed to know about jazz and much much more. Every Jazz fan should own a copy of this.

  

Quoting BN747 (Reply 2):
smooth Jazz artist

Whaaatttt!!! That term 'smooth jazz' is anathema to jazz purist. An icky term to me
  - but, I'll admit to loving David Sanborn. My all time favorite sax player. Sanborn is a guy who has some true jazz chops, but has never really been identified with the true jazz idiom.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 2):
Joao Gilberto
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Astrud Gilberto

Yes! Yes!. Absolutely great Bossa Nova. Joao's daughter, Bebel, isn't bad either.

Speaking of American Masters, gotta admit to a deep admiration for this guy:


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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:23 am

I am not a serious afficianado who knows genres, but I like the Afro/Cuban and bebop styles,
People...

Coltrane, Coltrane, Coltrane.
I actually stop and cry sometimes when I hear A Love Supreme or even his now overplayed "My favorite Things."

Miles Davis, especially early. but I do think some of his later "Bitches Brew" stuff is pretty good even though the purists slammed him.

Aaway, you made me remember Dexter Gordon, Oh yeah, that is gonna be downloaded from ITunes fast.

Stan Getz, who knew my father.

Thelonius Monk

Dave Brubeck (Take Five is like the Jazz Stairway to Heaven, but it is damned good)

Django Reinhardt

The Lounge Lizards were greatly underrated, too associated with the New York "No wave" scene

Bud Powell

Verging on smooth jazzish, but I do like...
Steely Dan
The Jaco Pastorius when he is *not* with Manhattan Transfer
Michel Petrucciani
Branford Marsalis, has more feeling than Wynton
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:46 am

For me:

Miles Davis: 'Kinda Blue' - didn't care for 'Sketches of Spain', though.

Coltrane ( a.k.a 'God') - 'Naima', 'CPW', 'My Favorite Things', and of course, 'A Love Supreme'.

I saw Brubeck play in Tarrytown 3 months ago but his son joined in and mangled 'Take Five'. I promptly died. Paul Desmond defined that song as much as Brubeck.

Getz - (God #2) - All that unbelievable 'Jazz Samba' stuff - 'Ipanema', 'Desafinado'.

Older stuff: Cannonball Adderly, Ramsey Lewis, Oscar Peterson, McCoy Tyner, maybe Wes Montgomery.

Newer stuff - Dave Holland, Brad Mehldau, but I'm not digging it yet.

I DETEST the easy listening, lite-jazz stuff (try "Kenny G."). I want to live in a parallel universe without this dreck.
 
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:32 am



Quoting Aaway (Reply 3):
Whaaatttt!!! That term 'smooth jazz' is anathema to jazz purist. An icky term to me
- but, I'll admit to loving David Sanborn. My all time favorite sax player. Sanborn is a guy who has some true jazz chops, but has never really been identified with the true jazz idiom.

Check out Mindy Abair. "Life Less Ordinary" is very appealing in spots. And she's hot.

Another one you might try is a Canadian group called Four80East (also their website). They're getting better known in the US at Monterey, Coral Gables, and the like.
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:14 am

Which jazz style I like really depends on my mood:
Sometimes I like to listen to Euro swing, like the style played by Django Reinhard (actually I prefer his later records, when he moved from traditional jazz band style with drums and brass instruments to gipsy style).

At the moment I like to listen to Ella Fitzgerals, peferably the stuff from the late 40s, early 50s, when, under the influence of Bebop, she used her voice like an instrument.
I also like music from Charles Mingus, Thelonius Monk etc.

At other times I like to listen to 1960s free jazz, like Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Gato Babieri etc..
Basically I like all styles, from early ragtime and New Orleans (Jelly Roll Morton is one of my favourites of this period) through 1930s-1940s swing (Duke Ellington, Count Basie, but very much Chick Web, but also less wellknown artists), going through bebop, Latin jazz (including Salsa, but also the type of jazz, which made it back to Africa) to free jazz.
It really depends on my mood what I like to listen to at the moment.

I was lucky that my father brought me to concerts of various, unfortunately now deceased, artists, so I can say I've listened to several great musicians life, like Gato Barbieri, Ornette Coleman, Dizzy Gillespie, Celia Cruz, Tito Puente, Miriam Makeba, Lionel Hampton and Illinois Jacquet.


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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:09 pm



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
Charles Mingus

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Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
At the moment I like to listen to Ella Fitzgerals

like her too
as a modern equivalent i also like Diana Krall
 
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:58 pm

Lovin' jazz here, only there isn't a big market for it, and I'm not aware of any jazz clus anywhere in Ireland, although there is a annual Jazz Festival in Cork.

From your experience, where are your favourite clubs in Europe?
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:55 pm

I've always been a fan of Ellington, Coltrane, Farlow, Parker....can't forget Davis, Mangione, Basie....I could go on can't forget Clark Terry (thanks logan for finding that session at the Blue Note)...and later on I developed a real appreciation for Winton Marsalis (truly great show whenever you're in New York...go see him and his ensemble at Lincoln Center)

Quoting Aaway (Reply 1):
Actually, Nashville is a somewhat underrated city for music aficionados

Nashville is a great music town......but jazz is not the number one scene there by any means.

New Orleans and New York are the best places to go for live jazz on a reliable basis.

You can find it fairly easily in Atlanta, LA, Vegas, KC, and AC, but look hard enough and you'll find it in most cities. American art form.....the more you listen the more you hear.....
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:58 pm

I am in favour of Dixieland Jazz. Among the ones I heard personally are Chris Barber, Ken Colyer and Al Hirt. But I also have records at home of Mr Acker Bilk, Papa Bue and some others. One of my definite favourites is "Creole Jazz" of Mr Acker Bilk, as presented here :
www.videos.es/reproductor/creolejazzackerbilk-(PevVggBBkN0
-- on the reverse-side of the record with this was a very good interpretation of "Stars and Stripes" .
 
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:04 pm

Kenny Ball also was great. Here a very nice melody of him
www.truveo.com/Kenny-Ball-His-Jazzmen-Rondo-excerpt-1963/id/732585168
 
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:31 pm



Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
Are there any jazz aficionados here on a.net? If so, what style(s) do you like and who are some of your favorite artist(s)?

Count me in.
Personally I like the Bossa-Nova Latin Jazz of the 1960s and Fusion of the 1970s. I also like the Big Band era as well.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 10):
Clark Terry (thanks logan for finding that session at the Blue Note).

That was an awesome find!
One of the coolest things I have ever experienced during a Airliners.net meet.
For those who don't remember, there was an Airliners.net meet in New York in summer of 2005. Me, CastleIsland, Mir and DLO21 saw Clark Terry live at the Blue Note.
DLO21, thanks again for the John Coltrane 'Impressions' 8track tape.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 2):
Willie Bobo
Chick Correa
Joao Gilberto
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Sergio Mendes

All great stuff, especially Sergio Mendes!
I have every single album he has ever recorded on various formats LPs, reel tape, 8track & CD.
I was lucky enough to catch him here in San Francisco in concert at Bimbos Lounge. He still has his chops and still has an ear for talent. His new band is phenomenal. I got him to sign a copy of 'Stillness' on reel tape and an 8track tape.



Some of my favorites
Return To Forever
Sergio Mendes
Quincy Jones
Maynard Ferguson
Wes Montgomery
Joe Pass
Dick Hyman
Chuck Mangione






Quincy Jones - You've Got It Bad Girl (1973) is a great combination of my favorite jazz styles all in one album. He combines bossa nova, fusion, big band and funk all in one.
This is a masterpiece
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:36 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
I have every single album he has ever recorded on various formats LPs, reel tape, 8track & CD.

And now you you to convert all those into AIFF files (and/or MP3) but AIFFs, though much larger in size...are much much better. As Aiff, they can't deteriorate as all the formats you've listed above can.


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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:10 pm



Quoting Yfbflyer (Reply 8):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
At the moment I like to listen to Ella Fitzgerals

like her too
as a modern equivalent i also like Diana Krall

Diana Krall ? Ouch, not even close to Ella (or Sarah Vaughn, who arguably had a better voice then Ella. But Ella always worked with the better bands.)

I view Diana Krall as just another corporate product for the mainstream. She's a better pianist than singer, IMHO.

But back to jazz musicians, among my favourites are:

Quincy Jones (esp "Walking in Space")
Billy Cobham
The Duke & The Count & The Diz (all of whom I got to see live)
Coltrane
Grover Washington (although he did unleash Kenny G on an unsuspecting world)
Louis Armstrong

For modern jazz artists, I would recommend Michael Kaeshammer, a very gifted pianist. Except his last collection, "These Days", where he sang on every track. Stick to playing, Michael. Kaeshammer also does blues and classics.

There are others and when they come to me I'll post them, perhaps with specific album references. For old vinyl, I always liked the stuff that came out of Creed Taylors' CTI group -- the artwork was usually as good as the music.
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:58 pm



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 15):
Quincy Jones

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as experts say possibly one of the greatest, but to me, as my musical abilities in spite of some musical instruction in school-times are limited, simply too difficult to "understand"
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Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 15):
modern jazz artists

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There are quite many "contemporary" Jazz bands in action, also in Zurich, and I go to places where they perform. I am quite happy, even if possibly NOT "up-to-date" by the fact how many of them keep to good old Dixieland Jazz
 
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:46 pm

Holy crap !

I forgot to include The Jazz Crusaders (now called The Crusaders) ! A more talented group of musicians would be hard to find:

Joe Sample
Wilton Felder
Stix Hooper
Pops Popwell
Wayne Henderson and
Some White Guitar Player (often Larry Carlson)

I just love their stuff. Even now, only Joe & Wilton remain, and they use session musicians for their recordings, but the sound remains strong, catchy, and has meaning.
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:31 pm



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 15):
For old vinyl, I always liked the stuff that came out of Creed Taylors' CTI group -- the artwork was usually as good as the music.

I collect a lot of those CTI records.
Deodato being one my favorites of that era.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 14):
And now you you to convert all those into AIFF files (and/or MP3) but AIFFs, though much larger in size...are much much better. As Aiff, they can't deteriorate as all the formats you've listed above can.

Bit it's no fun listening to it that way.
I like to see the record spinning or the reel spinning with the analog VU meters moving with the sounds.  Cool
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:38 pm



Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
Are there any jazz aficionados here on a.net?

Add me to the list.
Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grappelli are my number one but there are so many more...
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:18 am

I like a lot of big band stuff.

Glenn Miller, Maynard Ferguson, etc.

I LOVE Chicago's album Night and Day Big Band which covers a bunch of big band standards. Everything from Caravan to In the Mood.



I play bass trombone in my school's jazz band, and am also in another start up jazz band playing things like Herbie Hancock's Chameleon, Raymond Scott's Powerhouse, and Dizzie Gillespie's Night in Tunisia. Great stuff.

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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:44 am



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 20):
I LOVE Chicago's album Night and Day Big Band which covers a bunch of big band standards. Everything from Caravan to In the Mood.

I have that CD and I like it.
Many jazz aficionados may not take that album too seriously though.

I do like their version of 'Sing, Sing, Sing' with the Gypsy Kings and Moonlight Serenade.
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:53 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
I have that CD and I like it.
Many jazz aficionados may not take that album too seriously though.

Yes, that is what I was thinking, although I'm not sure why. It is an excellently performed cover of all of those great standards.

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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:13 am

A group I also like very much is the "Dirty Dozen Brass Band", they basically re-invented New Orleans style, but wirh many elements of bebop and free jazz and they play really hot!

Looking through my vinyl collection I also noticed Jimmy Lunceford, but unfortunately my record player is U/S at the moment.

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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:31 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
DLO21, thanks again for the John Coltrane 'Impressions' 8track tape.

No problem...I'm glad you were able to salvage it...as far as NYC....it was a great trip, wasn't it?
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:25 pm



Quoting DL021 (Reply 24):
No problem...I'm glad you were able to salvage it...as far as NYC....it was a great trip, wasn't it?

The tape did require some 'open cart surgery'.  Smile
It was worth the effort.
Since I've repaired that tape, I've gone out and bought a few more John Coltrane albums.



The NYC meet was a lot of fun. That would be awesome to do another meet at JFK, LAX or SFO. Any city that gets some interesting widebody international service.
What ever happened to CastleIsland BTW?
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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:00 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
What ever happened to CastleIsland BTW?

he has left A.net and is now active on the other forum, which is not to be named.

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RE: A Thread For Jazz Aficionados

Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:47 pm

In Hamburg we have the Jazztrain every year (though I can't confirm for now if there will be another Jazztrain next year as well). The Jazztrain is basically a ride on the ring line of Hamburg's tube or U-Bahn and is an opportunity for talents to perform in public their Jazz songs. More information on this year's Jazztrain event can be found here:

http://www.jazztrain-hamburg.de/ (German only)
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