ronglimeng
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Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:39 pm

I'd like to revisit this topic. It was discussed here last year, more from the point of illegal parking and eligibility for stickers.

I question why it needs to exist at all? It seems to have originated in the 1970's as some kind of sympathetic recognition of handicapped people - gee, we're sorry you're handicapped, please park up front beside our employee of the month!

I've had some experience with handicapped people. My uncle who has MS had a special van with a extendable ramp. He needed more space than a standard handicapped space anyway and usually had to park at the far end of the lot.

My mother-in-law has knee problems and walking is a bit of an issue with her. When we shop, I drop her and her daughter right at the door of the store, and then find a parking spot myself.

I always thought that real handicapped people did not want special treatment and they wanted to demonstrate their abilities to the rest of us.

So what are these spots for anyway?
 
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:44 pm



Quoting Ronglimeng (Thread starter):
When we shop, I drop her and her daughter right at the door of the store, and then find a parking spot myself.

It's nice that they have you to do this for them.

My grandmother has a permit. She had a double knee replacement and has stability issues. Walking long distances especially in the florida heat is difficult for her but she values her independence and rarely has any companion with her.

I find it annoying that there seem to be too many handicap spaces. I have only seen them all filled one time that I can remember.
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VonRichtofen
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:44 pm

These days, it seems they're for fat people. I mean, god forbid they burn a few calories. I'm amazed how easily people can get those tags so they can use them. I rarely ever see anybody who's truly handicapped actually using one.
 
707CMF
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:49 pm



Quoting Ronglimeng (Thread starter):
I question why it needs to exist at all? It seems to have originated in the 1970's as some kind of sympathetic recognition of handicapped people - gee, we're sorry you're handicapped, please park up front beside our employee of the month!

Actually, it's more like
'gee, you have difficulties going around, please park in front where you'll have less distance to walk/move.

Quoting Ronglimeng (Thread starter):
I've had some experience with handicapped people. My uncle who has MS had a special van with a extendable ramp. He needed more space than a standard handicapped space anyway and usually had to park at the far end of the lot.

Most people in a wheel chair have a standard sized vehicle, with the chair folded either behind/beside them (in the trunk if they're with other people in the car).

Quoting Ronglimeng (Thread starter):
My mother-in-law has knee problems and walking is a bit of an issue with her. When we shop, I drop her and her daughter right at the door of the store, and then find a parking spot myself.

I wish I could do that when shopping with my wife, however, even though she has a very good command of her white cane, it's usually not really an option to just drop her let her start the shopping !!!

Cheers,

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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:51 pm



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
I rarely ever see anybody who's truly handicapped actually using one.

Not all handicaps are visible. Not every handicapped person is in a wheelchair. My cousin had debilitating RA. She had adaptive equipment inside her vehicle which allowed her to drive. Until later in her life her handicap was not really obvious. Every movement she made was agonizing.
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:01 pm



Quoting 707cmf (Reply 3):
white cane

I'm curious, what brand of cane?
 
707CMF
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:14 pm

Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 5):
I'm curious, what brand of cane?

Dunno the brand of the one she's using, it's a aluminium Canadian stick, 1.30m , 5 foldable parts, with a rolling extremity.

She also has an Ambutech one.

Why do you ask ?

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plateman
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:19 pm

Handicap parking is very necessary. Many seniors have a serious problem walking and espically in suburban area, you could park hundreds of feet from the entrance to an store. Most like to be independent but simply cannot do the extra walking.

For example, I had foot surgery about four years ago and was stuck on crutches with a severe inability to walk. I got a temporary permit from New York. Allowed me at food shopping to park close, hop in and then get a motorized cart. Allowed me at school to park in front, instead of about a mile away in the senior parking lot.

They are necessary...but yes they are abused too.
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:22 pm



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):

These days, it seems they're for fat people. I mean, god forbid they burn a few calories. I'm amazed how easily people can get those tags so they can use them. I rarely ever see anybody who's truly handicapped actually using one.

I agree. You see this way too often IMHO.

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 4):
Not all handicaps are visible. Not every handicapped person is in a wheelchair. My cousin had debilitating RA. She had adaptive equipment inside her vehicle which allowed her to drive. Until later in her life her handicap was not really obvious. Every movement she made was agonizing.

Thats true as well, but the permits get abused much to much and the permits are (at least here) given to just about anyone from some child who fell off his skateboard and twisted his ankle to people who really should be walking more to help their conditions.
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bill142
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:38 am



Quoting 707CMF (Reply 6):

Dunno the brand of the one she's using,

Maybe you should look at the back of your legs! No doubt she's belted you one!
 
Dogbreath
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:29 am

It pi$$es' me off when I drive to the supermarket and find all the parking spots full except for the row of handicapped parking spots. So what am I going to do? Drive around and around waiting for someone to leave or go home and come back later. No way! I park in the handicapped spot and then get a torrent of abuse from some good samaritan to complain that I'm not handicapped and am taking up the handicapped spots.

What does a handicapped person do if they drive to the supermarket and find all the handicapped spots full of legitimate handicapped cars, but plenty of normal parking spots . Do they turn around and drive home. No! They park in the normal parking spots (as they should). But using the good samaritans analogy, should we harrass them and tell them to go park in a handicapped spot only. Of course not.

BTW. I'm not politically correct either!
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:31 pm



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
I rarely ever see anybody who's truly handicapped actually using one.

Not all handicaps are VISIBLE ! ! !
Following major surgery where they opened me up from collarbone to groin I had a TEMPORARY permit for 3 months. I LOOKED fine, but inside I was at my absolute limits just to get around. Now, thank god, I'm strong and healthy but you simply can't judge by outside appearances.

Quoting 707cmf (Reply 3):
Actually, it's more like
'gee, you have difficulties going around, please park in front where you'll have less distance to walk/move.

While I never wish harm to anybody, someday you might have to eat those words. Let us know how they taste!!!
 
707CMF
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RE: Handicapped Parking - Why Does It Exist?

Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:39 pm



Quoting Photopilot (Reply 11):
While I never wish harm to anybody, someday you might have to eat those words. Let us know how they taste!!!

Please reread what I wrote, I meant absolutely no offence to anybody, I was merely trying to explain why handicaps other than wheelchair could use the handicapped parking spots.

As for eating those words, I was once almost assaulted by a 'good samaritan' who shout at my wife and I that we should be ashamed to use that handicapped parking. We tried to explain that not all handicaps were visible (as you said), even showed my wife permit (by the way, we have to renew it every 10 year, even though her condition is permanent), but no, we were the criminals...

Cheers,

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