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Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:25 am

Will Hillary Clinton run for US presidency again? Perhaps in 2016? No chance in 4 years time right?
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:30 am

She will run, and may well win in 2012.

Whomever is elected in 2008 is going to be on the hook for an even worse economic crisis and bad period of time in US citizens.

Both 2008 candidates have promised the public they will fix the economy quickly.

Ain't gonna happen - so 2012 is going to be an open free-for-all with the incumbent president a lame duck whose own party will not support him.

It would be best for Hillary if McCain won in one respect in that she could run against him.

But if McCain wins, a lot of the Democrats will blame the loss on Hillary not doing enough to win the race for Obama.
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:32 am

I really doubt she will run for presidency once again
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:45 am



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
Both 2008 candidates have promised the public they will fix the economy quickly. Ain't gonna happen

May I ask how you reached this conclusion?
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:46 am



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):

Whomever is elected in 2008 is going to be on the hook for an even worse economic crisis and bad period of time in US citizens.

Exactly. I've lately contended that whomever loses this round is actually the more fortunate one.

The only thing with a shorter duration than Americans' patience, is their memory-- they'll blame Bush et al for a while, but more than a year or so into the next POTUS' administration, that blame is going to shift. I'm no Greenspan, but I really don't see how any policy implementations can turn this ship back to a late-90s feel in that time span, or even 4 yrs.
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:47 am



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
No chance in 4 years time right?

Heavens who knows? After listening to about 2 years worth of campaigning at this point most people I know are suffering from "campaign fatigue"

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:23 am

If Obama wins is there a chance that Hillary Clinton will run in 2012? Can she?
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:29 am



Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
If Obama wins is there a chance that Hillary Clinton will run in 2012? Can she?

Technically yes, although it would split the party significantly and most likely lead to a loss for the dems.
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:41 am



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):





Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
She will run, and may well win in 2012.



Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
If Obama wins is there a chance that Hillary Clinton will run in 2012? Can she?

No, no and no.
It's rare for a sitting President to be challenged in their parties Primary when running for a 2nd. term. In 2016, she will be too old. Let's face it, our society judges old women harsher than old men. The fact that 52% of the US public doesn't like her plus she would almost be 70 years old at that point.
2008 was really the only year Hillary Clinton could have done it.
In 2012, Obama will be running for re-election.
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:26 am



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
Whomever is elected in 2008 is going to be on the hook for an even worse economic crisis and bad period of time in US citizens.


I am betting with RFields5421

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:19 am



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Hillary Clinton run for US presidency again? Perhaps in 2016? No chance in 4 years time right?

Do you honestly think at that age that she will want to go through with it?
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:20 am

Still she is not that old in 2016. 68? She can still do it. Even Mccain is 73 now.

Possible for her to run as an independent candidate? Or maybe she can switch to the republicans? :D

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:36 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Let's face it, our society judges old women harsher than old men

Very unfair, but quite true. There's an old saying: Men age like fine wine, women age like milk.
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:38 am

I believe last week that she said she doubts she would ever try to run for President again, that 2008 was her best opportunity. Hillary will always be tainted by the serious personal behavior (especially sexual) of Bill, including the impeachment proceedings and so on.

She is best off continuing to be critical US Senator from a major state (NY) and becoming an important point person to push the policies of the Obama administration (assuming he wins).
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:55 am



Quoting United Airline (Reply 11):

Possible for her to run as an independent candidate? Or maybe she can switch to the republicans? Big grin

No independent party candidate can ever, ever win. . . it's just US politics. And switching to the Republican party would be disastrous and the Republicans would never in a million years select her as their nominee.

Whoever wins this year (AP poll suggests Obama has a 1 point lead over McCain, so anything is possible) is going to have a rough term and reelection will be hard to seek, especially all the hype given to Obama (if he wins of course  Wink )
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:00 pm



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
She will run, and may well win in 2012

Oh I get it, she gets her butt absolutely kicked by some unknown far left nobody for the nomination and she is going to come back in 4 years and win it all?

The Clinton's are yesterday pal. Sorry.
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:27 pm

If Obama loses, I would expect she would run again in 2012, she still has a very loyal following of supporters and Bill is just itching to get back to the White House in any which way.

If Obams wins, that will be it for her presidential aspirations, she is not going to go against the party and challenge him for re-election in 2012.
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:37 pm

Maybe she has to wait until 2016. During Clinton's time USA was among the strongest/best ever times in history.

Any chance for Mccain to catchup now? Hard?
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:29 pm



Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 7):
Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
If Obama wins is there a chance that Hillary Clinton will run in 2012? Can she?

Technically yes, although it would split the party significantly and most likely lead to a loss for the dems.

Very True. All one needs to do is look at the 1980 Primary Campaign when Sen. Ted Kennedy challenged then-President Jimmy Carter right up to the DNC Convention.

IMHO, that's one lesson that the Democrats learned very well (which was one reason WHY then-Senator Bill Bradley (of NJ) did NOT challenge then-President Bill Clinton in 1996)... at least on the Presidential level.

Personal take:

If McCain wins, she'll make another run in 2012; remember, at one point, she said that she wouldn't run for President in 2008... so never say never.

If Obama wins, I believe that she will be nominated for the first Supreme Court vacancy. A position, by design, that she'll retain long after Obama leaves office. I personally think that that promise may have very well been already made.
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:45 pm



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Hillary Clinton run for US presidency again? Perhaps in 2016? No chance in 4 years time right?

She was quoted recently as saying no, but she also stated she had no intentions of running for President when she ran for Senate Eight years ago so who knows.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
She will run, and may well win in 2012.

She will not challenge her own party's incumbant unless Obama turns out to be an even bigger disastor than GW Bush.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
If Obama wins is there a chance that Hillary Clinton will run in 2012? Can she?

Again unless Obama does something criminal there's no chance she will challenge him for the Democratic nomination, there is a possibility that she could replace Biden as Vice President in Obama's second term. That would set her up for her own run in 2016, but again does she want to be doing that at 68?.. It's totally within the realm of possibilities that Palin will seek the Republican nomination in 2012, if she gets it adding Hilary to the Obama ticket would be a good way to make a play for Woman voters.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 11):
Still she is not that old in 2016. 68? She can still do it. Even Mccain is 73 now.

Again who knows what's going to happen, she's healthy but Bill Clinton has had bi-pass surgery. I'm not sure he will be up for supporting her campaign, or the scrutiny.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 11):
Possible for her to run as an independent candidate? Or maybe she can switch to the republicans? :D

She is the Democratic party.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 17):
Any chance for Mccain to catchup now? Hard?

Anything is possible, but if the polls are showing the same next week that they are showing now (Obama with a nine point lead on average) then I think it will be a large victory for Obama,
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:57 pm



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Hillary Clinton run for US presidency again? Perhaps in 2016? No chance in 4 years time right?

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Question 1 : Sure she will
Question 2 : If McCain becomes president, she will try in 2012, if Obama becomes president in 2016, if Obama for whatever reasons does not run in 2012 it will be in 2012 already
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 1):
I really doubt she will run for presidency once again

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Already President Abraham Lincoln said, in his time in regard to General Grant, that the "Presidential Worm" is an incureable disease, and stated that Grant had it in spite of denial. And I think Hillary HAS that Worm-disease !
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:29 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
Do you honestly think at that age that she will want to go through with it?

No, but I thought she was smart enough to not run in 2008. She fooled me.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 19):
Obama turns out to be an even bigger disastor than GW Bush.

Obama does not have to turn out to be a disaster.

I see very few people here remember 1968, or 1980.

The winner of this election - and I'm assuming Obama - could very easily be in a position like LBJ was in late 67-early 68 - and have a crippled presidency with no chance of re-election.

Declining to run and allowing someone else to carry the party banner will be the best way out.

The 1990 comparison is even more likely for Obama. Not only will the winner face a tougher economic climate than Carter faced, but an unpopular war they cannot win. Though it is very slightly possible the person winning in 2008 might have the US troops out of Iraq by early 2012 - they will not be out of Afghanistan.

The biggest mistake Carter made was coming to Washington with a message of change,and actually fighting against his own party in Congress to try to implement that change. That PO'd the democratic party powerful against Carter. And many, many of them supported Kennedy's run against Carter.

While it is a popular myth about how much Reagan's message accepted by the American people - it is seldom mentioned how much the divisive primary campaign hurt the Democratic party ability to organize and contest the November election.

You think this year's primaries were long and drawn out - they were nothing compared to 1990.

Obama's central theme of Change is very much like Carter's campaign theme. It is not original, many of the statements and rally cries are direct from the 1976 election near word for word.

If Obama actually tries to implement his public stand on change, he's going to lose that battle, and could very well not be able to run for re-election. That's just the battle within his own party - not even considering the economy, loss of jobs, possible deep depression, and the war.

Now in reality - I think Obama will win in 2008, and run for re-election and lose in 2012, because the voters and the Democratic party will not support the president who is responsible for NOT ending the war, and responsible for the worst economy, unemployment and job losses since 1929-32 - possibly even worse.

But if Obama is realistic and realized he cannot win re-election, does not run - then Hillary may well be the best candidate for the Democrats.

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:38 pm



Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 3):
Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 2):
Both 2008 candidates have promised the public they will fix the economy quickly. Ain't gonna happen

May I ask how you reached this conclusion?

Sorry for going off-topic,

WunalaYann, no offense my friend, but you don't need to be an Economist to see how far down the shithole our economy is in.

No matter who wins the election, it will take a loooong time for our economy to show some recovery. Four years won't be enough and unfortunately taxes will have to go up among other things.

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:14 pm



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 21):
The 1990 comparison is even more likely for Obama. Not only will the winner face a tougher economic climate than Carter faced, but an unpopular war they cannot win.

Typo alert: 1980 not 1990. Big grin

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 21):
You think this year's primaries were long and drawn out - they were nothing compared to 1990.

See above. Big grin
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:12 pm



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 21):

No, but I thought she was smart enough to not run in 2008. She fooled me.

And she came within a hair's breadth of getting the nomination, which probably would have led to a win.

Not such a dumb lady.
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:16 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 24):
And she came within a hair's breadth of getting the nomination, which probably would have led to a win.

...and Ashley Todd would have a backwards 'C' carved in to her face.  Silly
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:05 am



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 18):
If Obama wins, I believe that she will be nominated for the first Supreme Court vacancy. A position, by design, that she'll retain long after Obama leaves office. I personally think that that promise may have very well been already made.

If she was to accept a Supreme Court justice appointment, that would not only be the end of her political career, but her position in the Democratic party as well. Supreme Court Justices are not public figures, in fact during the Presidents State of the Union speech, the Supreme Court Justices, with the exception of when the President is introduced do not get up an applaud any of the remarks the President makes, they have to show neutrality and I don’t think that Hillary would want to be out of the publics eye, and this would reflect on Bill as well.

I think she will stay on as a senator so she and Bill could enjoy being in the news, they both have huge egos and need to see their names and faces in the news
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:21 am

Technically, Hillary Clinton will be an option to vote for in this election. You think that Saturday Night Live parody of her saying that she had no ethical standards was an unfounded statement? She's a sociopath* and she just might get votes!

Trust me, you don't want sociopaths in the White House -- we've already had one there the past eight years (Karl Rove, Dick Cheney are both psychopaths*, and President Bush has antisocial-personality disorder**) and we've seen the wonderful things they've done to this country...


BTW: Hillary Clinton as a Supreme Court Justice is a scary thought. She's just as big a warhawk as many of the neocons are.


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* - Psychopath and Sociopath often have different connotations, some people use them to denote different degrees of violence, and others to denote whether the person was born this way or became that way through a bad upbringing. Regardless, even some experts including one of the biggest experts on psychopathy, Dr. Robert D. Hare, consider them to be one and the same as both have the same self-centeredness, lack of remorse, empathy, and both are cold, ruthless and calculating.

** - Antisocial Personality Disorder can include psychopaths, but a person with antisocial personality disorder is not necessarily a psychopath. President Bush for example does fit the profile of an Antisocial Personality, but he's not a psychopath as he does appear to have occasionally have felt remorse.
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:10 am



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 21):
many of them supported Kennedy's run against Carter.

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:15 pm

I confess the greatest attraction of a Hillary presidency was the idea of Bill slouching around the White House in his bath robe like Tony Soprano, showing up at meetings unannounced to offer his "purely personal" opinions, hosting "late nights" with his rich pals in the rec room, and hassling the new season of interns.

And then mom would come home, and Bill gets shipped off to Africa for an extended goodwill tour under tight Secret Service supervision.

C'mon, like them or not, the Clinton Redux White House would have been the best diversion the country could have had from the problems we face. And after all, the solution to our woes ain't coming from Washington anyway, so why not get some entertainment value out of the place?
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:11 pm

Hopefully she'll run in 2012 after Obama officially switches to the socialist party. We need a democrat in office right now, and there isn't one running.
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:31 pm



Quoting Blackbird (Reply 27):
President Bush for example does fit the profile of an Antisocial Personality,

Three or more of the following are required:

 checkmark  1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
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4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
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 checkmark  7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

The antisocial behavior must not occur exclusively during an episode of schizophrenia or a manic episode

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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:46 pm



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 30):
Hopefully she'll run in 2012 after Obama officially switches to the socialist party. We need a democrat in office right now, and there isn't one running.

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Messrs Obama and Biden ARE democrats. And Obama a "Socialist" ? He in Europe just would be a centrist with some left-of-centre notions.
 
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RE: Will Hillary Clinton Run For US Presidency Again?

Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:55 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
...and Ashley Todd would have a backwards 'C' carved in to her face.

It would actually be an "H" and would be correct no matter the angle.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 30):
Hopefully she'll run in 2012 after Obama officially switches to the socialist party. We need a democrat in office right now, and there isn't one running.

 checkmark  I would have no problem with her being President. Her only shot again would
be in 2012 if Obama loses, 2016 is out of the realm of political reality. And her argument
in 2012 would be very strong if Obama loses because of her more centrist views than his.

If Obama wins, her best prospect is to be Senate Majority Leader, not Supreme Court
Justice. If anyone hasn't noticed, Obama really doesn't like the Clintons.
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:02 pm



Quoting PSA727 (Reply 33):
because of her more centrist views than his.

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Hillary Clinton as a student leader was rather on the far-left side, even by European standards, and during the years gradually moved towards the centre.
 
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:12 pm



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 34):
Hillary Clinton as a student leader was rather on the far-left side, even by European standards, and during the years gradually moved towards the centre.

Most people in their youth tend to be more liberal, unitl they have to support themselves and
their family and pay taxes. It's like Ronald Reagan said, "If you're young and not a Democrat
then you have no heart. If your older and not a Republican, then you have no brain."
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:42 pm



Quoting PSA727 (Reply 35):
to be more liberal,

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A "Liberal" is a Centrist, leftists are NOT Liberals. People who are far left when young tend to move towards the Centre, only a few of them however get to the full right. Some who are right-wing extremist when young also move toward the Centre. This is why the Liberal Centre is dominated by relatively old people.
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Beside the point that "social-liberals" are slightly left-of-centre and "economy-liberals" slightly right-of-centre.
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Many former communists by ageing became Social-Democrats.
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But there of course are people who were Liberals or even Conservatives when young and move to the Left when ageing.
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Ronald Reagan simply wanted to justify HIS personal move from a trade-unionists to a right-wing extremist, a way he shared with Benito Mussolini who did the same.
 
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:57 pm



Quoting Blackbird (Reply 27):

Oh god, here we go again...
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Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:09 pm



Quoting PSA727 (Reply 35):

Most people in their youth tend to be more liberal, unitl they have to support themselves and
their family and pay taxes.

I've swung further left as I've gotten older.
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