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Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:24 am

I just saw this on a Spanish channel but haven't heard anything in the mainstream news

Only a few online blogs about it, but nothing verified yet:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...wse_thread/thread/b179741f56122a4e

http://www.babalublog.com/archives/010416.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2124007/posts


" a number of Sagua la Grande residents interviewed assured the news agencies the Cundo family were in the shoe shining business and that one of them identified as Francisco, had an affair with a young communist American girl member of a voluntary work brigade in the early1960s "

" Francisco has declared he awaits the Illinois senator to claim him in order to attend the celebration of his son's election victory "

(photo which could be a fake, of the alleged man included) sorry in Spanish only:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg


lol if true
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:33 am

The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:36 am



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else.

Not true, his birth certificate was supplied, authenticated, and sealed in HI.

The man was born in Hawai'i. Get with the times.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:37 am

And now what ? Are they gonna say he's Iraki ? North Korean ? Who cares, he is a US citizen proved to be born on U.S territory and thus an eligible president. Mc Cain on the other hand, was born in a place which is actually no longer under U.S administration (i.e Panama canal zone)

    

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Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:39 am



Quoting RootsAir (Reply 3):
Mc Cain on the other hand, was born in a place which is actually no longer under U.S administration (i.e Panama canal zone)

It was at the point/time when he was born... and even if it wasn't, it still wouldn't have mattered, as he was born under the property auspices of a US military base.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:56 am

God these conspiracy theories are so funny, but they're getting really old.

Barack HUSSEIN (OMG people, it's a name, get over it) Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a U.S. citizen.

He's also not the antichrist (one of the funnier things I've seen him alleged to be).

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Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:06 am

One thing is fore sure, Obama looks nothing like his supposed Kenyan father.

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 3):
And now what ? Are they gonna say he's Iraki ? North Korean ? Who cares, he is a US citizen proved to be born on U.S territory and thus an eligible president

Relax with the drama. It doesn't really take that much brain power to realize If she was only a few months pregnant while leaving Cuba it means he was born somewhere else right? So he'd technically still be Hawaiian.

Might want to check if he's cut or uncut though, to be sure...
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:15 am



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 6):
So he'd technically still be Hawaiian.

He can't be Hawaiian if he has no Hawaiian blood. Being born in Hawaii does not qualify one as being Hawaiian.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:25 am



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
He's also not the antichrist (one of the funnier things I've seen him alleged to be).

Good one, Longhornmaniac!

Strange - I really do think that we are on the verge of a truly-historic event. One that, in the course of time, the people of the United States will come to be rightly very proud of. An event on a par with the Declaration of Independence and the Emancipation Proclamation.

If you'd asked me even two months ago, I'd have said (and I know the place pretty well, and love it too) that I doubted that the United States was ready to elect a non-white. But all the signs are that I'd have been wrong.

My thoughts go back to a (very eloquent) ex-slave named Frederick Douglass, who was one of Lincoln's advisers back in 1862 - waiting in the telegraph office in Boston for the text of the Emancipation Proclamation to come through:-

"We were waiting and listening as for a bolt from the sky...we were watching...by the dim light of the stars for the dawn of a new day...we were longing for the answer to the agonizing prayers of centuries."
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:39 am



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.

do yourself a favour and get up to speed before making stupid comments, while your at it check the birth announcement from 1961 in the Honolulu Times.

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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:11 pm



Quoting NAV20 (Reply 8):
Good one, Longhornmaniac!

amazing...


Makes no difference to me if he was born in Hawaii or China. There should be more important things to question about the man (like his character) for example

As long as someone has experienced living in the US for many years that's all that should matter, really. A long track record of public service should count as well  Wink

I just thought this news was curious, that's all

But since extreme liberal lefties want to get sour about nothing like always, here's what I think this does: It sure raises more speculation about someone who has been tied to people with crazy ideas and lifestyles, starting with his own mother. Too much effort in portraying an iconic image that doesn't seem congruent.
 
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:13 pm



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 6):
Might want to check if he's cut or uncut though, to be sure...

Nah I might wanna realise someone hasn't gotten mature enough to move on and get over with discussions and tensions 2years old

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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:16 pm



Quoting RootsAir (Reply 3):
And now what ? Are they gonna say he's Iraki ? North Korean ? Who cares, he is a US citizen proved to be born on U.S territory and thus an eligible president. Mc Cain on the other hand, was born in a place which is actually no longer under U.S administration (i.e Panama canal zone)

Come off it. The U.S. Constitution states that the President has to be a "Natural-born citizen." At no point does it state that he has to be born within the U.S. Even if it did, he was born on a U.S. military base, which can be considered U.S. territory.

However, either way, the son of two American military personnel born on a U.S. base is clearly a natural-born American citizen and I challenge the loyalty to his country of any American who would argue the point.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:17 pm



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 9):
your true colours are clearly evident.

Whether you like it or not, my "true colours" (as you call them) are for neither Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin.

If I had US citizenship I would vote for a 3rd Party candidate, most probably for Ralph Nader, either that or one of the others, i.e. Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney or Chuck Baldwin.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:29 pm



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 10):
But since extreme liberal lefties want to get sour about nothing like always, here's what I think this does: It sure raises more speculation about someone who has been tied to people with crazy ideas and lifestyles, starting with his own mother. Too much effort in portraying an iconic image that doesn't seem congruent.

Who's getting sour? I think it was the extreme radical right that was putting out these ridiculous theories about Obama's citizenship anyhow...
 
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:27 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
He can't be Hawaiian if he has no Hawaiian blood. Being born in Hawaii does not qualify one as being Hawaiian.

Take that to its logical conclusion, and the population of "natural" Americans nation-wide would be very small indeed.

I don't understand this obsession with place of birth. I know what the Constitution says, and I understand why the provision was put in in the late 1700s. But surely more than 200 years later there's no need for it. It creates almost hilarious constructs: a person born in the US and whisked away at birth for an upbringing in some fascist republic (Cuba?) is an eligible presidential candidate when he/she returns to claim rightful citizenship; a person born in Cuba (or Austria?) is whisked away at birth and raised entirely in the US -- and they're not an eligible candidate for president?

People on the right would be delighted if someone could prove that Obama was born outside the US; they're almost delusional in their passion about it. Even better if they could prove he's a Muslim, too. Funny that this happens in a country that fought a revolution to get away from the divine right of kings.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:36 pm



Quoting Arrow (Reply 15):
I don't understand this obsession with place of birth.

The obsession is with keeping a Marxist, Socialist, Communist Muslim with African ancestry from becoming president of the United States.

Yeah, they are grasping at straws, but when you are sinking into the abyss you'll grab at any damned thing to try to keep yourself afloat.
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:42 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.

What source do you have to back that up. Maybe this web site?

< http://comments.obamacrimes.com/ >

Unsuprisingly the lawsuit filled by Philip Berg was thrown out by a federal judge. Which is good becasue the guy is a total nutter.

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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:50 pm



Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2):
Not true, his birth certificate was supplied, authenticated, and sealed in HI.

The man was born in Hawai'i. Get with the times.

Makes me wonder though, why can't we see it? Where is the validation of his native birth?

Hey, if he's born in HI, fine. No harm in seeing it then, huh?
 
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:52 pm



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
He's also not the antichrist (one of the funnier things I've seen him alleged to be).

I saw a show on History Channel last year about the anti-Christ. Most scholars believe this anti-Christ person is very charismatic and able to pursuade large groups of people. However, scholars also believe the anti-Christ is/will be born in Greece, Albania, or the former Yugoslavia and NOT in North America. Since some now believe Obama was born in Cuba, that is part of North America and therefore, he is NOT the anti-Christ.

The other interesting thing is: I listen to both liberal and "main stream" talk radio (Air America and Rush/Hannity) and the interesting thing I have found is the liberal talk radio is behind Obama and gives reasons to stand behind Obama, but the "main stream" (read: Right wing) talk radio that trashes Obama instead of standing up for John Sidney McCain III. Right wing talk radio uses phrases like "anti-Christ" and "messiah" and his middle name when referring to Obama, yet does very little to convince people to vote for John Sidney McCain III, just why people should vote against Obama.
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:54 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 20):
Right wing talk radio uses phrases like "anti-Christ" and "messiah" and his middle name when referring to Obama, yet does very little to convince people to vote for John Sidney McCain III, just why people should vote against Obama.

Actually, I thought it was the mainstream media that had already anointed him the messiah…
 
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:00 pm



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 6):
Might want to check if he's cut or uncut though, to be sure...

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Well, that could put the Muslim rumors to rest once and for all! Big grin
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:35 pm



Quoting Slider (Reply 19):
Makes me wonder though, why can't we see it? Where is the validation of his native birth?

All you gotta do is look, friend.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:37 pm



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg

Jesus christ, if that's not a shop - and a poor one at that - I don't know what is.

Quoting Slider (Reply 19):
Makes me wonder though, why can't we see it? Where is the validation of his native birth?

Hey, if he's born in HI, fine. No harm in seeing it then, huh?

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...s/vital-records/vital_records.html knock yourself out, only $23.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html these people did (scroll down), there's even pictures!
 
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:46 pm



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 24):
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg

Jesus christ, if that's not a shop - and a poor one at that - I don't know what is.

Agreed 100%! Jeez, I could do a better PhotoShop job than that!

Furthermore, how hard is it to find an actual guy of Cuban descent who at least somewhat resembles Mr. Obama without resorting to such a cheesy and obviously faked ploy?
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:48 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.

Can you prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt where past presidents and presidential canidates were born? I have a feeling if Obama were to open up all those records for all to see it would still not be enough for you.
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:32 pm



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 23):


Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg

Jesus christ, if that's not a shop - and a poor one at that - I don't know what is.

Does this work for you?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:37 pm

Obama is Venezuelan, I can prove it!  Big grin



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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:49 pm



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
(photo which could be a fake, of the alleged man included) sorry in Spanish only:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...1.jpg

Mighty contemporary threads for 1959...not to mention the sharp color of the picture.

Looks more like some Right winger's wet dream circa 2008, but I digress.

In any event, I think Obama would actually make a quintessential Cuban -- or Brazilian, for that matter -- given the fact that he is the child of a White mother and a Black father.

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Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:49 pm

I stand corrected.  Wink
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:38 pm



Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 14):
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 10):
But since extreme liberal lefties want to get sour about nothing like always, here's what I think this does: It sure raises more speculation about someone who has been tied to people with crazy ideas and lifestyles, starting with his own mother. Too much effort in portraying an iconic image that doesn't seem congruent.

Who's getting sour? I think it was the extreme radical right that was putting out these ridiculous theories about Obama's citizenship anyhow...

Precisely the "sour" reaction  Smile I was expecting. I guess the shoe fit

Quoting Rleiro (Reply 27):

he's now related to Chavez Big grin (who endorsed him)

Quoting Arrow (Reply 15):
Even better if they could prove he's a Muslim, too

I agree that excuse is lame, about as big a lie as when Barack himself tells everyone he's "christian"

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 19):
Since some now believe Obama was born in Cuba

Not born, but possibly conceived  Wink
 
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:53 pm



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 30):
I agree that excuse is lame, about as big a lie as when Barack himself tells everyone he's "christian"

You seem to be suggesting he isn't. Why? Or are you just accusing him of hypocrisy, lumping him in with 90% of all the other folks who say they are Christian. You know -- the Christmas and Easter Christians?

I'm guessing that there is a significant number of religious politicians who wear their faith on their sleeves not because they are particularly devout, but because they know their chances of getting elected diminish the closer they get to agnosticism,atheism, or just-plain indifference. Case in point -- look what that nasty lady Dole tried to do to her "godless" opponent in North Carolina, and it appears some of it is sticking.

God help you if you're an atheist and want to run for office.
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:26 pm



Quoting Arrow (Reply 31):

God help you if you're an atheist and want to run for office.

Don't take it personal. I don't think BHO is very honest. Hopefully you can deal with that instead of being like 90% of sour lefties who start mudslinging when their idol takes a hit. It usually ends up with a critic of Palin's dress, when their guy just blew millions on a 30 min. ad. Anderson Cooper and the rest of CNN are for the most part = garbage reporting. That's gossip, not news.

Quoting Arrow (Reply 31):
lumping him in with 90% of all the other folks who say they are Christian. You know -- the Christmas and Easter Christians?

And you're describing him  Smile

Quoting Arrow (Reply 31):
Case in point -- look what that nasty lady Dole tried to do to her "godless" opponent in North Carolina, and it appears some of it is sticking.

There you have it, that's politics.
 
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:35 pm

So just in case he was gay, the term "Communism through the backdoor" would get a whole new meaning... Big grin
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RE: Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:40 pm



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
Barack HUSSEIN (OMG people, it's a name, get over it) Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a U.S. citizen.

Thank you for a post with common sense.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.

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