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Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:11 pm

I thought this was a fascinating snapshot of the African community in Guangzhou. I knew there is a ton of passenger traffic between CAN and all sorts of places in Africa but I always wondered how the two very different communties meshed in CAN.

http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2008/0...ricans-seek-their-dreams-in-china/
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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:15 pm

Interesting blog. Thanks for the link.
I have to say that, hanging out around Berlin's African community when I was still married to my ex from Sierra Leone, I noticed similar problems:
Educated members of the community all spoke fluent German and fitted well into the local society (often in good jobs, like hospital doctors, architects, engineers or nurses). They often had German partners and came to Europe in the 1970s-1980s as university students and stayed on after their graduation.
On the other hand, there were quite a few youngsters (mostly young men) without any education, who came in the 1990s as "political refugees", who had a strong sense of entitlement and wanted to keep seperate from the local population in their own, exclusively African, community.
I also noticed that most Africans I met were very religious, either Muslims or Christians.

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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:18 am

Thanks also for the link. The comments are worth a read as well. I wonder how many of the "branded" goods bought by the Africans in China end up in their little stalls in Europe.
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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:02 pm

I loved the following comment.

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And finally, I finished, I do believe from the experience I’ve had working in China and in other countries that nine-tenths of getting along in a foreign land with the natives is the way you present yourself. So if you have taken your emotional baggage from your home country to a foreign land, you will certainly find an audience willing to throw the baggage back at you. That is, look for discrimination, and you will find it.

So, yes, there is discrimination in China, even racial. But I do believe you either have to go looking for it in Business or manufacture it yourself during business transactions.

Being a black man, living in Mexico for 3 years without any problems concerning race, at least nothing negative, I can support that point of view. I know people who have had racially related problems, but I was certain that their behavior had more to do with it than anything else.

I think this applies to anyone from any race living in a country where their race is considered a minority.
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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:12 pm



Quoting Captaink (Reply 3):
I think this applies to anyone from any race living in a country where their race is considered a minority.

The difference is until relatively recently the two communities (African and mainland Chinese) were some of the more isolated groups on earth, at least as far as I know.
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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:05 pm

Seem like Egyptair is the only african airline that flies there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou_Airport
If so big why won´t any more airlines like Kenyan Airlines start flying there?
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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:59 pm



Quoting Alessandro (Reply 5):
If so big why won´t any more airlines like Kenyan Airlines start flying there?

KQ and ET both fly there, and EK carries quite a bit of traffic between CAN and Africa as well
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RE: Chocolate City: Africans Seek Dreams In China

Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:32 pm

I thought New Orleans was the Chocolate City. At least that's what Mayor Ray Nagin famously said....  Wink

Nice article though, seriously. It's fascinating that China has to deal with immigration of this scale.

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