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Anti-BCS Legislation

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:00 pm

It looks like it will finally take an act of congress to get this done. Amazingly, he is not a University of Texas alumni. While the system is bad, I still think it worked this year - I think Florida and Oklahoma are the 2 best teams in the country. But at least a playoff should fix most of the issues. It won't be as much fun to argue about anymore. Of course, no telling whether they can really pull it off.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Taking aim at a BCS system he said "consistently misfires," a member of Congress planned to introduce legislation Wednesday that would force college football to adopt a playoff to determine the national champion.

Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, the ranking Republican on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, didn't specify what sort of playoff he wants -- only that the BCS should go.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../ncaa/12/10/congress.ap/index.html
 
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:14 pm

What a joke. When is this all going end? What the hell does the government have to do with the BCS?? Really.. As much as I'd love to see a playoff system, I'm going to live one way or the other.

Is anyone else shocked to see how far members of our Government want to control EVERYTHING???

We have an economy going to pot, terrorists trying to kill us, energy needs, health care issues, education issues. And the process of deciding how a NCAA Football Champion is crowned has become part of our governments priorities.

Please... let's all get together as Americans and clean the entire system.. It's gone beyond sanity.
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:18 pm



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 1):
What the hell does the government have to do with the BCS??

I am just glad all the other problems are solved. They must be if there is time to meddle with college football, right?
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:30 pm

As much as I agree that the government shouldn't meddle with that, they do have a point. The BCS system is a failure. Too much is left to the computers, and it's not the first time that the BCS has been subject to controversy. Remember when USC was the AP Number 1, even though LSU won the national championship against Oklahoma?

The BCS ranking system has to go, and the winners of the conferences (the teams, which will play the conference championship match, should be determined in an NFL type of system) should play a playoff round against each other, to determine who goes to the National Championship game. If it works in College Football with their Final Four, then why not try this in the BCS?
 
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:41 pm

Who gives a freakin' crap about the BCS?

Why do some members of Congress focus on something so far off the road into the weeds as the damn BCS? News coverage and publicity, I guess. We're fighting 2 wars, a near-collapse of the economy, public education reform, mortgage crisis, federal bail-outs, etc. Focus on the important issues, not the small stuff.

I hope someone in Texas starts a (successful) recall campaign against this moronic House Representative, Mr.Barton.  irked 
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:56 am

I'm glad our Congress has time to focus on the important issues like steroids in baseball and fixing the BCS system.


Are these issues that need to be addressed? Yes. But by Congress? HELL NO. MLB should be worried about steroids with baseball and how to deal with it and the NCAA colleges and the BCS should be worried about the BCS series.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 3):

That's fine. I think the BCS system sucks too. But the US Congress should not be the ones dealing with it.
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:27 am



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 5):

That's fine. I think the BCS system sucks too. But the US Congress should not be the ones dealing with it.

I don't know a thing about it. But as soon as someone can logically justify me why my taxpayer dollars go into paying someone to legislate the rules of college football, get back to me.

Particularly not the Energy and Commerce Committee.

Someone vote this guy out?

Oh, and can I point out that this is a TEXAS REPUBLICAN? If you vote GOP because you believe in "smaller government" this guy represents the GOP very poorly, doncha think?
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:16 am



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 1):

Holy crap, I agree with GuitrThree on something!  Wow!

Yes, the BCS system is all screwed up. It's embarrassing. But it's neither as screwed up nor as embarrassing as the state of our economy. FIX THAT FIRST!!!!!!  banghead 

Then, after Congress has done that, they can get around to: reforming the healthcare system, refoming the education system, modernizing the country's infrastructure, coming up with a sound energy policy, dealing with the trade deficit, and taking care of the environment.

Then, after they've taken care of all of those things, THEN they can take a look at meddling with the BCS. Not before.

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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:49 am



Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
Holy crap, I agree with GuitrThree on something!  

That was my reaction too!

This is absolutely absurd. Last time I checked, congress was supposed to be focused on fixing the big problems this country faces, not the system of crowning a college football champion.
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:17 pm

I think I may be the only one who likes the BCS and the bowl system, and really for one reason, it's unlike the NFL. I can't stand the NFL. It sucks, but I love college football to no end. I love it because it's not the NFL. Bowl games are great, and it's cool that the regular season means so much.

Sure it has plenty of flaws, but I still like it.
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:57 pm



Quoting COrocks (Thread starter):
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Taking aim at a BCS system he said "consistently misfires," a member of Congress planned to introduce legislation Wednesday that would force college football to adopt a playoff to determine the national champion.

That Congressman needs some repeated slaps to wake him up. I challenge everyone in his district to walk up to him whenever he's in town, and slap him.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 6):
Oh, and can I point out that this is a TEXAS REPUBLICAN? If you vote GOP because you believe in "smaller government" this guy represents the GOP very poorly, doncha think?

Which is one of the reasons why the GOP lost the election this year - they have ceased to be fiscal conservatives.
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:18 pm



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 5):
Are these issues that need to be addressed? Yes. But by Congress? HELL NO. MLB should be worried about steroids with baseball and how to deal with it

While I agree with all the opinions here on congress messing with the BCS, I do think that congress needed to step in on the steroids issue. Steroids was clearly becoming a problem because it was setting a bad example for kids and it was becoming more and more prevalent in high school sports. It is obvious that MLB was not going to do anything about it because they liked all the home runs and attention they brought to the game.
 
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:48 pm

Our tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen. Me thinks that in cases like these, the offending parties should have the legal obligation to refund their salaries to the taxpayers for time spent on this utterly useless legislation.

The lead guy is Smokey Joe Barton, who represents a district upwind of Dallas that has a ton of polluting industrial plants that are responsible for most of the pollutants found in Dallas' air...another reason for me to hate the guy.
 
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:39 pm



Quoting COrocks (Reply 11):
I do think that congress needed to step in on the steroids issue. Steroids was clearly becoming a problem because it was setting a bad example for kids and it was becoming more and more prevalent in high school sports.

Absolutely not. That was an even bigger waste of time and tax dollars than this BCS. If baseball fans voted with their wallets over the steriod issue, the owners would have it solved in about 3 days, or how ever long it takes for the drug test results to come back. Same goes for BCS, if big donators withheld money, it would get changed. Asking govenrment to fix either of these is lazy and foolish. Quick, name a problem that government as actually "fixed" lately.
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:27 pm



Quoting Lowrider (Reply 13):
If baseball fans voted with their wallets over the steriod issue, the owners would have it solved in about 3 days

But they won't - hence why someone had to step in.
 
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:45 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
Holy crap, I agree with GuitrThree on something!



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 8):
That was my reaction too!

Well, it did snow in Houston today.. I guess strange things do happen!
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:09 am



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):

Which is one of the reasons why the GOP lost the election this year - they have ceased to be fiscal conservatives.

They long ago ceased to be conservatives and became... well... fanatics.
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:05 pm

Quoting COrocks (Reply 11):
While I agree with all the opinions here on congress messing with the BCS, I do think that congress needed to step in on the steroids issue. Steroids was clearly becoming a problem because it was setting a bad example for kids and it was becoming more and more prevalent in high school sports. It is obvious that MLB was not going to do anything about it because they liked all the home runs and attention they brought to the game.

No Congress did not need to step in. The higher-ups in the MLB just need to grow a pair. And I think it would be a better example for the kids of today if MLB stood up and tackled the steroids issue than if it required action from the government.

Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
Then, after they've taken care of all of those things, THEN they can take a look at meddling with the BCS. Not before.

They don't even need to do it after they worry about the economy, the two wars, etc. College football should worry about college football, not Congress.

Quoting N776AU (Reply 9):

I think Bowl Games are great the teams ranked above the 4th position. But I personally think there needs to be a playoff for the national title. My solution is figure out who the top 4 teams are then play a two round playoff. Allow the top teams in the nation to settle the dispute of who deserves to be in the National Title game.

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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:13 pm



Quoting COrocks (Thread starter):
Amazingly, he is not a University of Texas alumni.

Yeah, Joe Barton is an Aggie. Clearly he (we) doesn't have any vested interest here  cry 

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 1):
What a joke. When is this all going end? What the hell does the government have to do with the BCS?? Really.. As much as I'd love to see a playoff system, I'm going to live one way or the other.

They're already involved in college sports due to Title IX. If we want them to be hands off maybe we can start by undoing that travesty.

Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 4):
Who gives a freakin' crap about the BCS?

People with money

Quoting Us330 (Reply 12):
Our tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen.

A playoff system could potentially bring in massive event revenue, and thus boost local tax bases. It's already been established that the federal government regulates college sports. If Barton's constituents want a playoff system, he is only representing their interests, no?
 
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:19 pm



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):

A playoff system could potentially bring in massive event revenue, and thus boost local tax bases. It's already been established that the federal government regulates college sports. If Barton's constituents want a playoff system, he is only representing their interests, no?

That argument only goes so far before it hits a point of supreme absurdity.
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RE: Anti-BCS Legislation

Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:55 pm



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):
Yeah, Joe Barton is an Aggie. Clearly he (we) doesn't have any vested interest here cry

Hey, their's always next year...  Wink

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