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Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:16 am

Hmm...a new declasse' with "Obama Presidential Coin" or "Inaugural Obama Coin" or "Obama Presidential plates"?

Possibly even worse than John F. Kennedy or Elvis Chenille rugs?

Geeze, I'd almost rather stomach-through another "Hi, Billy Mays here!" hawking job.

Thoughts? ...jack
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:21 am

Just another way to rip people off.. Unless it comes from the US Mint it holds no value and never be worth anything
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:21 am

Did you see how fast they got rid of those World Trade Center coins with made with metal from "the vaults of the World Trade Center".

The New York Attorney General got on them quick and put an end to that shenanigans.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:26 am

Absolutely disgusting. No one who's living or even recently dead should be on a coin, Democrat OR Republican. Good grief, the guy's not even President yet!

Not to mention the coin is nothing more than a Half-Dollar with a sticker covering it up...
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:40 am

A bit off topic, when I saw the 9/11 Metal $20 bill (really, a metal bill). They sad its legal Liberian tender. Is that really true?
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:46 am

The funniest part of the "New England Mint" and the flogging of their 24kt layered Obama coin(s) for $9.95 + S&H, is that the background music is none other than.....



The National Anthem of Great Britain, God Save the Queen!
 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:47 am

There are companies out there that make various "currencies" to sell to people who are a third tricked into thinking its "real" money, a third excited about whatever the currency "commemorates", and a third thinking they're getting a collectible.

Usually, to legally justify calling it currency, it actually becomes registered currency in another country. Liberian and Samoa are common.

They're in no way, shape, or form associated with actual US currency and have next to no value.
 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:23 am



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 3):
Absolutely disgusting. No one who's living or even recently dead should be on a coin, Democrat OR Republican. Good grief, the guy's not even President yet!

Yep, I love how he invented the office of the president elect and has those signs on his podium, I don't think that even exists. The media just loves this guy. Wonder what they are going to say in 4 years.

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 6):
They're in no way, shape, or form associated with actual US currency and have next to no value.

They would have some collectible value but depends on how many are sold and who holds on to them. Not to mention if in 4 years we don't have national health care and all this other stuff he is blowing up our ass and loses re-election they won't be worth anything.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:56 am



Quoting TZ757300 (Reply 4):
A bit off topic, when I saw the 9/11 Metal $20 bill (really, a metal bill). They sad its legal Liberian tender. Is that really true?

Yep, all thirty cents USD worth...
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:09 am



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 5):
The National Anthem of Great Britain, God Save the Queen!

That'd be "My Country Tis of Thee" in America.

I've seen Obama commemorative plates. What the heck do you even do with that? Don't get me wrong...I'm glad he won but they're taking this a bit too far. Washington's transit system even has one day passes with his face on them for the inauguration.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:32 am

But wait there's more!







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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:33 am



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 5):


The National Anthem of Great Britain, God Save the Queen!

"My Country 'tis of thee
Sweet land of liberty
Of thee I sing...."

Goes to the same tune as God Save the Queen.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:38 am



Quoting N867DA (Reply 9):
What the heck do you even do with that?

You slap mashed potatoes on his face and tell him eat his way out of it!  duck 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:54 am



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 10):
But wait there's more!

I work in downtown Washington DC, about two blocks from the White House. That is not in, literally every street vendor has turned into an Obama gift shop. Anything you could possibly put the man's name on, it's on there...drives me crazy. Even the jewelry vendors are selling Obama clothes and more. I was debating starting a bidding war with them, just for fun..

And don't even get me started on the gift shops near tourists desinations.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:30 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 11):
"My Country 'tis of thee
Sweet land of liberty
Of thee I sing...."

Goes to the same tune as God Save the Queen.

As does the old pre-WW1 imperial (the one of the Kaiser) German national anthem
"Heil Dir im Siegerkranz,
Herrscher des Vaterlands
Heil Kaiser Dir!"
...  Wink

We also have some private mints in Germany, which produce socalled "official" collectible coins, which are in fact just worth the metal used to make them. It is just a rip off.

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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another

Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:18 am

It is disgusting, but before you republicans get a bunch in your panties,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWidy...-oJ0&eurl=&feature=player_embedded

Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 5):
The National Anthem of Great Britain, God Save the Queen!

You mean, My Country Tis of Thee?
 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:43 am

D L X ...

Geeze, even I didn't believe that (GWB coin).

I need another beer...jack
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:30 am



Quoting N867DA (Reply 9):
That'd be "My Country Tis of Thee" in America.



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
As does the old pre-WW1 imperial (the one of the Kaiser) German national anthem

Wow! You learn something new everyday!

I figured that because it was the British national anthem, it was a tune in the public domain and this cheapo mint wouldn't have to pay royalties to the jingle's composer.

Which now makes me wonder.... when was God Save the Queen/King adopted as the official anthem.... given that it was also a German (closely related to the British Monarch) royalty tune....

Cheers!
 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:18 am



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 17):

Which now makes me wonder.... when was God Save the Queen/King adopted as the official anthem.... given that it was also a German (closely related to the British Monarch) royalty tune....

God Save the Queen/King has never been adopted as the national anthem. It is merely tradition that is recognized as 'official'.

Like God Save the Queen, Woody Guthrie's "This Land is Your Land" has been modified to suit many countries. Most of Guthrie's lyrics are left intact--just a few country-specific words get thrown in.

What are all these coins for anyway? They're not really worth anything are they?
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:53 am



Quoting D L X (Reply 15):
It is disgusting, but before you republicans get a bunch in your panties,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWidy...edded

That is disgusting too, for the same reasons.

Like I said, regardless of party affiliation, you don't belong on a coin. Period.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:33 am

Talk about setting the bar high.... he hasn't done anything besides win the election and we are already putting him on coins!
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:42 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Yep, I love how he invented the office of the president elect and has those signs on his podium, I don't think that even exists. The media just loves this guy. Wonder what they are going to say in 4 years.

Oh get over yourself. This is America. Everyone is out to make a buck on a celebrity (be it political or entertainment).
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:41 am

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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:36 am



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 17):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
As does the old pre-WW1 imperial (the one of the Kaiser) German national anthem

Wow! You learn something new everyday!

I figured that because it was the British national anthem, it was a tune in the public domain and this cheapo mint wouldn't have to pay royalties to the jingle's composer.

Which now makes me wonder.... when was God Save the Queen/King adopted as the official anthem.... given that it was also a German (closely related to the British Monarch) royalty tune....

Cheers!

Don't forget that the German house of Hannover, though not very powerfull by itself, managed to marry off it's sons and daughters into the the royal families of most of Europe. Asa result, pre-WW1, most European rulers were closely related (first cousins).

BTW, the tune of the contemporary German national anthem was written bythe Austrian Joseph Haydn as an anthem to the Austrian Habsburg emperor:

"Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser,
Unseren guten Kaiser Franz..."

Which, following the failed German revolution of 1848 had an exiled revolutionary called Hoffmann von Fallersleben write the new words in praise of a united Germany for this tune.

The tune of the US national anthem started as a beer drinking song in England and had the words written to it by an American POW during the 1812 war.

Jan
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:37 am



Quoting D L X (Reply 15):
It is disgusting, but before you republicans get a bunch in your panties,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWidy...edded

yeah but it aint as digusting as this 9/11 soap wtf!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxICS-yPKY
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:34 am



Quoting T1210s (Reply 24):
yeah but it aint as digusting as this 9/11 soap wtf!!!

it's not real.... a sick joke
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:53 am



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 25):
it's not real.... a sick joke

Oh ok didn't even watch all of it
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:09 pm

"Explore. Dream. Discover." -Mark Twain
 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:27 pm

Inaugural coins and collectibles are nothing new. In fact, they are as old as our republic itself.

I don't see anything wrong with this...

However, the orgasmic retail frenzy over the Obamessiah is ridiculous.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:36 pm

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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:02 pm



Quoting Slider (Reply 28):

However, the orgasmic retail frenzy over the Obamessiah is ridiculous.

People trying to make a buck! What can be more American than that!. Are you a communist?
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:14 pm



Quoting PlateMan (Reply 13):
I work in downtown Washington DC, about two blocks from the White House. That is not in, literally every street vendor has turned into an Obama gift shop. Anything you could possibly put the man's name on, it's on there...drives me crazy. Even the jewelry vendors are selling Obama clothes and more. I was debating starting a bidding war with them, just for fun..

And don't even get me started on the gift shops near tourists desinations

Can't fault them they are going to make more from now till the inaguration than all of 2009.

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 21):
Oh get over yourself. This is America. Everyone is out to make a buck on a celebrity (be it political or entertainment).

Yea ok.  sarcastic 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:53 pm



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 30):
People trying to make a buck! What can be more American than that!. Are you a communist?

No, but on that note, I wonder if Obama will increase the taxes on those people selling that stuff, haha...
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:05 pm



Quoting Slider (Reply 32):
No, but on that note, I wonder if Obama will increase the taxes on those people selling that stuff, haha...

You just don't understand the "Real America"..
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:14 pm



Quoting Slider (Reply 28):
Inaugural coins and collectibles are nothing new. In fact, they are as old as our republic itself.

I don't see anything wrong with this...

However, the orgasmic retail frenzy over the Obamessiah is ridiculous.

Agreed, but whose fault is that, the people making the crap or the people buying the crap? I guess in the current economic crisis there's at least one retail market that's still doing well.
 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:51 pm



Quoting Cptkrell (Thread starter):
Hmm...a new declasse' with "Obama Presidential Coin" or "Inaugural Obama Coin" or "Obama Presidential plates"?

Possibly even worse than John F. Kennedy or Elvis Chenille rugs?

Geeze, I'd almost rather stomach-through another "Hi, Billy Mays here!" hawking job.

Thoughts? ...jack

Granted it's an historic election, but It's ridiculous that they are producing coins to commemorate his election. Nothing more than exploiting public sentiment. The same with the 911 coins.

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 3):
Absolutely disgusting. No one who's living or even recently dead should be on a coin, Democrat OR Republican. Good grief, the guy's not even President yet!

Touche.
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Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:50 am



Quoting JM017 (Reply 35):

Granted it's an historic election, but It's ridiculous that they are producing coins to commemorate his election. Nothing more than exploiting public sentiment. The same with the 911 coins.

Well "they" are a private company who are producing a product to sell. If they can market it so that they can make money off them, then those with more money than sense lose. If they can't, then they lose.

Stop moralizing, for pete's sake.
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:02 pm



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 17):
Wow! You learn something new everyday!

And you can throw 'Kongesangen' (The Kings Song), the Royal Anthem of Norway inthere as well  Wink
 
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Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:57 am



Quoting PlateMan (Reply 13):
I work in downtown Washington DC, about two blocks from the White House. That is not in, literally every street vendor has turned into an Obama gift shop. Anything you could possibly put the man's name on, it's on there...drives me crazy.

Which one of these vendor's has Barry's Senate Seat for sale? How much are they asking for it?

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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:06 am



Quoting N867DA (Reply 18):
What are all these coins for anyway?

People to spend money on.

Quoting Max550 (Reply 34):
Agreed, but whose fault is that, the people making the crap or the people buying the crap?

 checkmark  It takes two to sell stupid crap like this.

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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:14 am

Though I wish the best for the new President, even though I didn't vote for him, this hawking makes me sick to my stomach, particularly the part in the TV spot which reads "his kind eyes and smile are an inspiration to us all". Please, what drivel!
 
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Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:52 pm



Quoting AvObserver (Reply 40):
Though I wish the best for the new President, even though I didn't vote for him, this hawking makes me sick to my stomach, particularly the part in the TV spot which reads "his kind eyes and smile are an inspiration to us all". Please, what drivel!

I didn't vote for him and I do wish him the best of luck. But seriously, the media is getting carried away quickly and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

I thought newsweek really crossed the line when they had a digitally enhanced cover pic of obama from last month riding in the back of a streetcar smoking a cigar and worse off, comparing him to FDR. Too much too soon if you ask me.
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Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:34 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):
If they can market it so that they can make money off them, then those with more money than sense lose. If they can't, then they lose.

Yup. True. Probably a good business decision too.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):
Stop moralizing, for pete's sake.

Not making a moral judgment. I just find the whole thing distasteful. But they aren't the only one. It's big business in DC these days. Even DC Metro is getting in on the act, selling farecards with Obama's picture on it at twice the normal value.
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Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:35 pm



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 3):
Absolutely disgusting. No one who's living or even recently dead should be on a coin, Democrat OR Republican. Good grief, the guy's not even President yet!

This is how the US mint is treating the issue of the presidential $1 coins. Even though we are only to the first 8 presidents, there is a rule that a coin cannot be minted if the president is still alive or has passed away within a certain amount of time. Four coins are issued per year, so it will be about 8 years or so until they might have to stop issuing the set.
 
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Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:53 pm

I get a kick out of all these sellers on eBay that sell coins as 'First Strike'. First strike are some of the first coins to be minted and many collectors take them as the most desired. The problem... the US Mint does not track or issue first strike coins...
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:08 pm

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 30):

People trying to make a buck! What can be more American than that!. Are you a communist?



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 33):

You just don't understand the "Real America"..

This judgmental attitude is more disgusting than the guy selling this crap. It's the hallmark attitude of communists, and there it goes since you were just itching for someone to drop the C bomb. They don't like something, and want to see it banned. No matter what it takes, no matter the means, no matter if it hurts people, no matter if it is unfair. Some people seem to forget this is exactly what happened when the Church ruled much of Europe with an Iron fist. Despite much of the anti-church bitching (IMHO warrented criticisms) coming from my fellow Europeans, your hipocrisy is so large that you can't even identify it despite it staring at your face.

We've replaced our single-monarch system with a "majority monarch" who can do just about anything with power. And people manage to bitch about "unregulated" markets.

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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:30 am



Quoting JM017 (Reply 42):
Even DC Metro is getting in on the act, selling farecards with Obama's picture on it at twice the normal value.

You can find a Smartrip card with the Messiah's face on it for $40 on eBay...  Yeah sure

Those POCs replaced the normal farecards and passes, so I unfortunately have a Commerative Obama Almighty used one-day pass.

I can't wait for this Obama Mania to be over...  banghead 
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RE: Obama Presidential Coin - New Or Just Another Low

Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:57 am



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 46):
I can't wait for this Obama Mania to be over...

4 - 8 years my friend. Just like the Slickster himself... even when Barry screws the pooch - it will be hailed as a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy by the ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Sky News, and probably even Fox News.
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