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Woolworth's To Close All Stores In The UK

Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:27 pm

Just saw this on Sky News.

This will hit the UK economy hard. Not the thing that was expected, especially as a start of the New Year. 27,000 jobs to be lost. Very sad to see. I guess a sign of the times.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...o_Close_With_Loss_Of_27%2C000_Jobs
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:40 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Thread starter):
This will hit the UK economy hard. Not the thing that was expected, especially as a start of the New Year. 27,000 jobs to be lost. Very sad to see. I guess a sign of the times.

I believe we lost our last Woolworth's in 1997 in the states and it was the loss of a grand old institution. Many of the stores were downtown and one of the pleasures for me was when mother would take us to the lunch counter. I never eat Spanish peanuts without thinking about going to Woolworths as a little kid. They were the least expensive goodies they had.

I think you may agree as my old man used to say "Progress was a good thing but it's gone too far."
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:37 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Thread starter):
will hit the UK economy hard.

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Woolworth never made it into Switzerland, whenever being present in Germany and known as low-price/low-quality chain. I for the first time met the chain in London in 1972 and appreciated its non-expensive stationary which I as a language-student was in need of. There were some other things which I found attractive, but overall I think that Woolworth UK simply was no match for the British chains, and so, this present move is a kind of surrender. Our British friends will witness over the coming months which stores are taken over by which chain. As usual, it will hit one area/community very hard with no one taking over and other ones almost not at all with facilities taken over within a short time. The same for the personnel. In affluent areas, the employees will have their new employment even before being out of Woolworth and in less splendid areas they will be in trouble. As usual it will hit the socially weak persons and communities again. But this is the unpleasant face of free entreprise.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:42 pm



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 2):
But this is the unpleasant face of free entreprise.

It's very good at sorting out winners and losers but some people seem to think that is the only valid yardstick. It's a one dimensional view in my opinion.
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RE: Woolworth's To Close All Stores In The UK

Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:05 pm

Terrible news for the workers, at this time too.
However, I doubt it is, aside from the extra unemployed, a real hit to the UK economy.
It was long a failing business, very badly run.
Question - when did any UK members last actually buy anything there? And how much did you spend?

Today, I avoided the usual messy chaos of the Woolworths in Hounslow, going instead to get what I was after in Wilkinsons, who just happen to have a similar product line usually a lot cheaper.
Then all those CD's and DVD's at lower prices in supermarkets.
Woolworths apparently had a supply arm with provided stock to their rivals who sold at a lower price and usually in a lot less confused layout.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:38 pm



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 2):
Woolworth never made it into Switzerland, whenever being present in Germany and known as low-price/low-quality chain. I for the first time met the chain in London in 1972 and appreciated its non-expensive stationary which I as a language-student was in need of.

I remember having gone to Woolworth in Hamburg on more than one occasion as a kid. We always went to the one at the Fuhlsbüttler Straße, but after a few years, they disappeared completely.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:39 pm

A sad day for the British high street, and bad news for at least one Anet photographer who works for Woolies.



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Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:44 pm

My commiserations to that Air Net member.

What I find hard to understand is just how badly run they had to be, so that they never seemed to capitalize on the long high street boom that lasted until effectively a few months ago.
I remember reading/hearing reports about the parlous state of the business going back some years.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:58 pm

What a shame..

I used to buy all sorts of stuff at Woolworths when I was in the UK. It's a sign of the times unfortunately. It was a good place for a college kid on a budget...
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:59 pm

It is sad to see Woolworth's go, but after years of mismanagement, a slap-dash mishmash of cheap and nasty products and shabby stores, I don't think it's exactly surprising.

Everything you could buy in Woolies you could get cheaper or better elsewhere - and for a nicer consumer experience. Except, maybe, the pick and mix sweets and mini cans of Coke.

I do feel bad for their employees though. It couldn't all have come at a worse time.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 5):
We always went to the one at the Fuhlsbüttler Straße, but after a few years, they disappeared completely.

Holy macaroni! That one's still there - I saw it last time I went to HAM in August Big grin

I'm actually flying over there tomorrow so I'll report back! I should be going past it on the 142 bus from the airport.
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RE: Woolworth's To Close All Stores In The UK

Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:04 pm



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 5):
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 2):
Woolworth never made it into Switzerland, whenever being present in Germany and known as low-price/low-quality chain. I for the first time met the chain in London in 1972 and appreciated its non-expensive stationary which I as a language-student was in need of.

I remember having gone to Woolworth in Hamburg on more than one occasion as a kid. We always went to the one at the Fuhlsbüttler Straße, but after a few years, they disappeared completely.

When I was a boy, the Woolworth shop in Berlin we regularly went to still had quality stuff, but over the last decade they totally degraded to Made-In-China junk outlets.

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RE: Woolworth's To Close All Stores In The UK

Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:09 pm



Quoting Metroliner (Reply 9):
That one's still there - I saw it last time I went to HAM in August

Still there? Damn, I thought they disappeared just like (the original) Hertie disappeared from the Fuhle.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:42 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
I avoided the usual messy chaos of the Woolworths in Hounslow, going instead to get what I was after in Wilkinsons, who just happen to have a similar product line usually a lot cheaper.

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THIS already was my impression back in 1972. They simply forgot about the competition. When they arrived in Europe after WW-II, most of Europe was dominated by "Aunt-Emma-shops" with "personal " service etc. In Switzerland, a Mister Duttweiler had started Migros, in fact done after some things he had seen in the USA while working there in the 1920ies ! But in the later 1950ies and the 1960ies, things changed all over Western Europe and Woolworth apparently failed to notice

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
to buy all sorts of stuff at Woolworths when I was in the UK. It's a sign of the times unfortunately. It was a good place for a college kid on a budget...


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Just as it was a good place for a language student depending on the weekly money transfer of daddy back home. The DEcreasing value of the Pound was in MY favour, the INcreasing love for good eating however to my DISfavour !

Quoting Metroliner (Reply 9):
and shabby stores

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and THIS already was so in 1972 --- and apparently never changed !
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:54 pm

Sad for the workers but Woollies never kept up with the times and paid the price. I cant remember the last time I went to a Woolworths store. That was what the problem was , many said the same.
 
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:01 pm

Where are people gonna pinch from the pick and mix now then?  Sad
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:26 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Question - when did any UK members last actually buy anything there? And how much did you spend?

A few weeks ago, I bought a Turkish Delight bar, so I'm guessing I spent about 50p!
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:40 pm

My Mum worked in Woolies in Redhill when I was a toddler back in the easrly 1950's. The stores didn't change much until about 10-15 years ago and then it was far too late to compete.

But I'll miss them. In the Isle of Man we bought a lot of stuff there, but then the competition wasn't there either.

Ah well, progress I guess, and a capitalist economy.

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Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:24 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Today, I avoided the usual messy chaos of the Woolworths in Hounslow, going instead to get what I was after in Wilkinsons, who just happen to have a similar product line usually a lot cheaper.
Then all those CD's and DVD's at lower prices in supermarkets.
Woolworths apparently had a supply arm with provided stock to their rivals who sold at a lower price and usually in a lot less confused layout.

Lol, another hounslow shopper here! Although only when i have to! I actually went into woolies last week to buy a few bits and pieces for xmas gifts. I agree with the consesus that they basically failed to keep up, shabby stores etc. I wonder who will come in for their high street retail space.

Just the way things are at the moment. Im in the process of trying to get money back from MFI!
 
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Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:05 am



Quoting Itsonlyme (Reply 17):
Lol, another hounslow shopper here!

LOL.... The Treaty Center , I remember it well. Thats the Woolworths I used to go to.
 
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Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:26 am



Quoting OA260 (Reply 18):

Same here! At least until a couple of years ago when I moved away from the area.

When I moved in to a new flat a few months ago we didn't buy a thing from Woolies, but spent a fair amount in Wilkies and B&Q on small furnishing items and minor DIY items, it seems that the growth of Wilkinsons and their cheaper prices really hit Woolworths hard, and as far as DVD's and CD's are concerned we can get it all either as MP3s or from play.com etc.

I don't see Woolworths being the last big name to go, you would think that WHSmiths would be vulnerable but their Post Office outlets give them some leverage with the government I would imagine.



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Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:26 am

The one in Taunton was actually a pretty nice store.... to look at.
Never bought anything there though as there assortment was ... well rubbish. Nothing useful.

In Germany Woolies are much worse and in trouble as well. In my hometown the Woolie store is inside a 1970s concrete nightmare which hasn't changed since then. We always said the store hast cheap and rubbish items for immigrants and "Sozialhilfeempfänger" who had to buy the rubbish as they couldn't afford more.

The UK stores were much, much better. Still, though, not competitive.

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Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:03 am

Shame to see such a long lasting brand disappear from the High Street. But at the same time the writings been on the wall for a while now and its business model was just not going to cut it.

I also see other chains like WH Smiths in trouble in the not too distant future to be honest, at the end of the day whats their USP ? There's simply nothing in there i can't get at Tesco (same goes for woolies) and for a cheaper price along with all my other goods. Hence why the non-food sections at the supermarket chains have grown immensly.

I do worry in part about M&S too, only slightly though as I do think that when things do pick up again, which they eventually will, then they'll bounce back.
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Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:32 pm

Meanwhile in Aus:
http://business.smh.com.au/business/...er-sales-growth-20081021-5524.html
Woolworths, Australia's largest supermarket chain, saw sales growth accelerate to 9.6% in the first quarter as food and liquor sales withstood slower consumer demand, and it maintained its full-year sales outlook.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/busine...lity/2007/07/10/1183833518325.html
Gives Woolies at 29 per cent against 23 per cent for Coles.

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Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:56 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Question - when did any UK members last actually buy anything there? And how much did you spend?

Do you know, I can't actually remember. Probably a pick'n'mix! I mean really that's all Woolies was good for. Their music and films were horribly overpriced compared to the supermarkets and Amazon etc.

Although it is a great loss it has been a long time coming. I'm more concerned about the 29,000 or so that will be out of work. I do wish them all the best for 2009, even though it's not going to be the greatest of starts.

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Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:40 pm



Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 16):
a capitalist economy.

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a capitalist economy only made the emergence of Woolworth possible. When the founder, Mr Woolworth, was not allowed to build his planned skyscraper in his native Philadelphia and had to move over to New York, where he built the famous Woolworth-Building and started his business seriously
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Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:20 pm

The other place I remember Woolies vividly was Happy Valley, Goose Bay in Canada. I bought my two small sons a couple of toy cars just to say I'd been shopping there! Big grin Not like any Woolies I'd ever been in before.

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Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:12 pm



Quoting Metroliner (Reply 9):
a slap-dash mishmash of cheap and nasty products and shabby stores

Exactly. Even in well-healed Beaconsfield - where my mother lives - Woollies is/was a shabby little emporium with a shabby assortment of goods. Woolworth used to be fun when I was a kid. The last thing I ever bought there was a bottle of tomato feed for my geraniums (!?) Woolworth failed to move with the times. Misguided management and the workers pay the price. Not nice, especially just before Christmas.
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Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:26 am

In Harrow there are three stores, the biggest is in the St Georges shopping center which is usually quite busy but a lot of it's customers come from the Vue cinema and they only buy a few sweets and drinks. The Woolies in St Georges looks nice and modern as well so it's a good place to shop but the other two in Wealdstone and the South Harrow are very run down and shabby. I've never seen more than 10 people in either of them at any time!

Here's the St Georges Woolworths in Harrow, you can see all the "store closing" signs.

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Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:04 am

Here in Durham, Woolworths is actually one of the larger stores; compared to the other Woolworths stores I've seen in the UK, it's actually usually pretty busy. It's a pity they're going, as it's just another store that the centre of Durham is losing. Once shops have gone, they're often not replaced... just empty units in the centre of town. Incidentally, it must be getting on for 25 years since Woolworths UK separated from the other Woolworth brands.
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Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:57 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Question - when did any UK members last actually buy anything there? And how much did you spend?

My thoughts exactly when I heard the news. Many, many years ago I was a regular there, buying Pick 'n Mix (obviously) and shoe polish, etc. However, it's been a very long time since I actually needed Woolworths. While I have sympathy for the employees, I think Woolworths is going to a better place, finally to be at peace.
 
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Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:09 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Question - when did any UK members last actually buy anything there? And how much did you spend?

As you asked GDB mid October about £3. Like you I avoid going unless I can think of any other shop that sells what I need.

Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Then all those CD's and DVD's at lower prices in supermarkets

The on line sellers can be cheaper that said when I bought the dark knight it was cheaper in the supermarket I shop at.

Sadly I see several large retailers going out businesses in the next couple of months.
 
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Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:37 pm



Quoting Egmcman (Reply 30):
Sadly I see several large retailers going out businesses in the next couple of months.

Yep MFI gone now also and Land of Leather to follow ..
 
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Quoting Oa260 (Reply 31):
Land of Leather to follow

Ah well, that should help Ann Summers.  duck 
 
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Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:00 pm



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 2):
There were some other things which I found attractive, but overall I think that Woolworth UK simply was no match for the British chains, and so, this present move is a kind of surrender.



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 3):
It's very good at sorting out winners and losers but some people seem to think that is the only valid yardstick. It's a one dimensional view in my opinion.

In the US they already completely surrnedered. They were in bethind Wal-Mart, K-Mart, and others in their market segement and had no possibility of ever catching up, so they just liquidated all their operations in the US.
 
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Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:10 pm

Wow... I wasn't aware the Woolworth brand was still alive overseas!

In Canada, Woolworth shut it's doors about 15 years ago, the majority of the stores were under the subsidiary 'Woolco' brand name and sold to Wal-Mart Canada (except those with unionized staff, those stores were completely shut down).
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Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:26 pm

One thing that is good is the sales in the stores now. I have bagged a few bargains.

Sony HD 40'' Bravia TV . Was GBP899 and I got it for GBP547 .

HD TV set top box was GBP199 and I got it for GBP97

I also see that Argos have Blueray HD DVD players GBP199 now GBP99

Also coming back Via LHR the other day they had 2 , 1 Litre bottles of Baileys for GBP15 !!
 
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Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:26 pm

Walked into my local woolies, 70% empty. 50% or more off everything. just stocked up on chocolate and few drinks for my office. offered 2 members of staff jobs at my place
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Quoting Soups (Reply 36):
offered 2 members of staff jobs at my place

Good for you !! Well done. Very nice gesture.
 
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Quoting Soups (Reply 36):
offered 2 members of staff jobs at my place

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compliments ! hope it is good for both sides.
 
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Quoting Soups (Reply 36):
Walked into my local woolies, 70% empty. 50% or more off everything. just stocked up on chocolate and few drinks for my office. offered 2 members of staff jobs at my place

That´s nice did you approach them or did they strike up a conversation with you?

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