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Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:01 am

This past September, Motor Coach Industry (MCI) filed for chapter 11, and I am wondering, will we see new MCI buses on the roads ten years from now? MCI has been part of American road histroy since before I was born. As a child, I remember seeing many MCI coaches on the roads. I even remember a Mark IV Tours, MC-8 parked right out side my class room when I was in Elementary School, it was taking the the Graduating 6th graders on their field trip to Magic Mountain. MCI is a road legend in Canada and the USA, and they build some of the most Beautiful and the second heaviest ( E/J series) buses on the roads today. I would hate to see MCI go the way of GMC coaches and Silver Eagles. So do you think MCI will over come this chapter 11?
 
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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:09 am

Interesting. My dad retired from MCI a few years ago, I'll have to ask him what he thinks!
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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:42 am

If they fail, then were would many transit systems or coach services get new coaches? I take NJ Transit MCI's every day. They are probably one of the largest operators of MCI coaches in North America, mostly for suburban to NY City/Phildelphia service.
 
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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:24 am

I think yes and no. Yes if the economy doesn't pick up and they do not have a back-up plan. No if they can pull something off. The bus market is saturated already.

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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:57 am

it would be a blow to my city if they went under. I have several friends that are engineers at MCI and have toured their facility here a couple of times. They have repeatedly over the last 5-10 years threatened to leave the province and everytime the government ends up giving them money to stay.
 
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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:21 am



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):
If they fail, then were would many transit systems or coach services get new coaches?

There are plenty of manufacturers who would take up the slack. I do hope MCI makes it, though.

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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:08 am



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 2):

If they fail, then were would many transit systems or coach services get new coaches? I

NovaBus has been doing exepetionally well with their new LFS models in several Canadian transit systems and BC Transit seems very pleased with their latest batch of Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 double deckers. Rumour has it that our current Dennis Darts will be replaced with the similar sized Enviro 200 Darts.

As far as highway coaches goes, theres still Prevost among some nice European models available.
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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:27 am

MCI has ops in the USA and Canada which is particulary important to government connected purchasers such as NJ Transit as politically they are required to 'buy (North) American'. A Euro based coach maker would not be the best option unless they set up ops in the USA or Canada for this market. The bad economy along with the credit crunch will also hurt the ability of government and private agencies to purchase new coaches. One less competitor will also cause the prices to rise as well.
 
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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:46 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 7):
A Euro based coach maker would not be the best option unless they set up ops in the USA or Canada for this market

Volvo already has their foot in the door since they work closely with Prevost for highway coaches as well as Nova for transit buses.

Don't get me wrong, it would be a shame to lose MCI, but there's always someone else ready to take the vacancy in the market. I sure wouldn't mind seeing some Neoplans on our highways .... Big grin

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RE: Will Motor Coach Industry (MCI) Survive

Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:33 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
There are plenty of manufacturers who would take up the slack. I do hope MCI makes it, though.

But non of them will have the history that MCI has. MCI was at one time the Queens of the American road, they was around when there were still many of GMC and Silver Eagles coaches on the road, since I personally think there older buses, look like a combination of both. Growing up in the LA area, I have seen many of MCI buses. In the 80's, I remember seeing MC-7s, MC-8s, MC-9s and 96/102 A3 around town. I remember one company that had a MC-6, also there was a Hotel across the street form the Great western Forum that used a MC-5C to shuttle there guest from LAX to the Hotel. In the 90's, I was shock at the design of the E4500 with it's spiral staircases and modern look. Also this was the company that bought GMC coaches division and part of Flxible/Diana ( F3500), now that is a good piece of history. Looking at the evolution of MCI design from the MC-9 to the D series to todays J series, I was hoping to see what the K4500 would have looked like. Both Prevost and Van hool design look basicly the same since the 1980's. Also the E and J series (with the exception of Van Hool TD 925) are the heaviest buses on US roads ( E/J series 54000 lbs/ TD 925 57000 lbs), so they should have a pretty smooth ride. It would be a big shame if MCI goes under.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
I sure wouldn't mind seeing some Neoplans on our highways ....

Sadly, Neoplan do not build buses in America any more. It is a shame also, because I like there Cityliner, it looked better than the H series,T-2145 and D4500 .

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