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Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:46 am

personally, i prefer a les paul, but many guitarists disagree  box 
 
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:06 am

Are those the only 3 options?

If so, then either PRS or Les Paul - the thinner-necked versions of both.

One of my good friends has a nice PRS guitar. That thing plays really nicely.

I'm not a big fan of Strats at all, for whatever reason. Almost everything about them seems to rub me the wrong way - but I'm sure much of it is mental.

Personally, I play two Ibanez guitars - one semi-hollowbody (ES-335 style) and one shredder.

Love the tone of the semi-hollow, but the setup needs some work that I haven't had the chance to do (keeps going out of tune). Love the wide, thin neck of the shredder; the stock pickups aren't great, but good enough for my current budget, and may get replaced at some point.

Those two, along with a Yamaha acoustic-electric and an Ibanez bass, fulfill my current guitar needs (and budget...).
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:03 am

I have a Fender Vintage Hot Rod '62 Stratocaster, it's a nice playing guitar. I do like the Gibson Les Paul and the Gibson GS and one of these types will be added to my collection soon. I haven't played a PRS so I'm not familiar with their feel or sound - but I've heard great things. To me the Strat and Les Paul are on the end of extremes of guitar types. Buy the one that suits your sound style.  Smile
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:07 am

What, no love for Telecasters around here? Okay then, of the three choices I'll go with the Strat.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:18 am



Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
What, no love for Telecasters around here?

Sorry mate, I find them just plain ugly. Something about the head and probably the lower part of the cut. Some of them do sound nice to my non-musician ears, though.

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 1):
One of my good friends has a nice PRS guitar.

Lucky bastard.  thumbsup 

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 1):
my current guitar needs (and budget...

Pretty big needs and budgets, I would say.  biggrin 
 
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:13 am

All three are good but it depends on your taste.
Personally I'd go for the Gibson Les Paul.
The Fender Statocaster you have to be very careful. Some sound magnificent but an overwhelming majority of them belong in the garbage.
I have a friend that owns a 1968 Fender Stratocaster that sounds amazing!
It's black with white pickguard and ebony fret board. That is my favorite look for the Stratocaster.

The P.R.S. is just too new for me. Plenty of great guitarist use them but all the guitarist I like discovered them after their creative peak. There just isn't too many memorable songs originally recorded with the P.R.S.
I just associate P.R.S. guitars with old washed up guitarist that have the cash to afford one.
Don't get me wrong, they do sound good.
I'll take one over an el-cheapo Fender Stratocaster made in India, Mexico, Rwanda, Calcutta or where ever their cheap knockoffs are made.
Now if it's an American made Fender Stratocaster, I'd go for the Fender.


My favorite is the Gibson ES-330, ES-335, ES-345, ES-355 series.
All pretty much look the same on the outside.
Ideally with the tobacco sunburst woodgrain color, block inlayed frets and trapazoid bridge.  Cool

Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
What, no love for Telecasters around here?

They're OK if you want that twangy sound.
Like WunalaYann stated, it's not the best looking guitar. I don't like asymetrical guitars that much. The Telecaster is very asymetrical and feels awkward.
They look ok in the blonde natural woodgrain with black pickguard.
The P.R.S. and Fender Stratocaster can come close to getting the Telecaster sound.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:21 am



Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
What, no love for Telecasters around here? Okay then, of the three choices I'll go with the Strat.

Tele all the way here, too one of the best guitars ever made !!!!!
The Les Paul is great but I guess with the Strat you have more options so I would choose it out of the three options above



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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:07 am



Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
What, no love for Telecasters around here?



Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 4):
Sorry mate, I find them just plain ugly. Something about the head and probably the lower part of the cut.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
They're OK if you want that twangy sound.
Like WunalaYann stated, it's not the best looking guitar. I don't like asymetrical guitars that much. The Telecaster is very asymetrical and feels awkward.
They look ok in the blonde natural woodgrain with black pickguard.

I care only for the sound, not the appearance of a guitar. I appreciate the simplicity and lack of pretense in Telecasters, though.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
They're OK if you want that twangy sound.

While the twangy sound is undoubtedly easy to achieve with a Telecaster, in the right hands they're also capable of making strikingly un-twangy sounds as well.

Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 4):
Some of them do sound nice to my non-musician ears, though.

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My personal favorite Telecaster player- Bill Kirchen-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpr-Zy_wRs
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:23 am

The best electric guitars, IMHO:



Give me a Jackson soloist any day!
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:00 am



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
Give me a Jackson soloist any day!

Sure, I'd be happy to play you a guitar solo!  Silly

Even though Jackson is my last name, I was never a huge fan of their guitars.
Robbin Crosby of Ratt worked wonders with Jackson guitars.  Cool

Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
I care only for the sound, not the appearance of a guitar.

I hear what you are saying but I have to like the appearance as well.

Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
in the right hands they're also capable of making strikingly un-twangy sounds as well.

True.
Ever heard of Andy Faranda?
He was the guitar player for a funk band named Repercussions.
He played the Fender Telecaster on that album and he sounds incredible.
Not exactly a 'funk' guitar but their album 'Earth And Heaven' is a masterpiece and flawless.
Pick up a copy if possible.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:02 pm

Stratocaster. Use them for anything you want, they're so versatile and pretty light compared to the LP.

But this is coming from somebody who only really likes Fender guitar/basses  Wink Plus I play either a Stratocaster (Albeit a copy  Sad) or a P-bass, so I am rather biased. I mean Les Pauls are nice, don't get me wrong but they're heavy guitars, and I don't really like the finishes on them. I prefer a basic 2 colour guitar, not sunburst or anything like that.

As for PRS, I've never actually looked into them or anything. I only know about the LP and strat because i've played them in music shops, college or a friend has one.
 
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:36 pm



Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
What, no love for Telecasters around here? Okay then, of the three choices I'll go with the Strat.

Actually, if I had to get a Fender, I'd probably get a Tele rather than a Strat.

Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 4):
Lucky bastard.

Yes he is. 'Tis a very nice guitar.

Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 4):
Pretty big needs and budgets, I would say.

Haha, no, not really. Craigslist and other used instrument outlets are wonderful tools. I've probably spent right around $1000 total on the 3 guitars and 1 bass.

Quoting TSS (Reply 7):
I care only for the sound, not the appearance of a guitar. I appreciate the simplicity and lack of pretense in Telecasters, though.

Appearance isn't that important, but the size and shape are. For example, I've never liked the way a Strat felt hanging on me.....plus I just can't avoid hitting that stupid pickup selector switch with my picking hand.

Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 10):
Stratocaster. Use them for anything you want, they're so versatile and pretty light compared to the LP.

Aw come on - you play bass and you're worried about a guitar's weight??  Wink
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:48 pm

I've owned a couple Les Pauls in my day, liked them both. Traded one for a Les Paul signature bass, and foolishly swapped out the other one for some cash and an ES-335 twelve string (which is a pretty rare axe, so I guess I did OK). I have never owned a strat but have played them often enough - I prefer the Les Paul, but that's just one man's opinion. There's quite a few big-name players who switched from Gibsons to strats over the years, so maybe they know something I don't. I'm thinking of guys like Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Pete Townshend, Keith Richards, Joe Walsh and others. Have no experience with PRS guitars, but if they're good enough for Al DiMeola, that says enough to me.
 
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:35 pm



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 11):
Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 10):
Stratocaster. Use them for anything you want, they're so versatile and pretty light compared to the LP.

Aw come on - you play bass and you're worried about a guitar's weight??

The heaviness of the Les Paul is one of the things I like about that guitar.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:26 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
The heaviness of the Les Paul is one of the things I like about that guitar.

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Both my semi-hollow and my shredder have some weight to them, which I quite like.

And my Ibanez bass isn't exactly light at all - which is very useful for a 5-string. That low B has some serious bass to it.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:31 pm



Quoting TSS (Reply 7):

My personal favorite Telecaster player- Bill Kirchen-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpr-...y_wRs

I think Roy Buchanan wears the title "Master of the Telecaster"
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:17 am



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 11):
Aw come on - you play bass and you're worried about a guitar's weight??

Not really, but I don't want to play a gig and feel like i've been hit by a truck after playing because it's that heavy. My Squire P-bass is just right for me thanks  Wink I don't like really light guitars either, I don't like them flailing around as i'm playing or slipping off my knee if i'm sat down. Main reason I don't like acoustics much. The guitarist in my band has a Epi LP, and that's pretty hefty. I've been told the full fat Gibson ones are a lot heavier than that, so I'd take a strat over an LP any day  Wink

And aaaaaall that is a pointless opinion because I don't count as a musician. I'm a drummer at heart  Wink

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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:00 am



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 14):
And my Ibanez bass isn't exactly light at all - which is very useful for a 5-string. That low B has some serious bass to it.

Ass much ass I love a big, fat, warm, bottom,
I have not warmed up to using a 5-string bass guitar.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:03 am

I have a Jackson Soloist, a very good guitar...
Then I have a LEs Paul that I think its better atough a little heavy
Ten I have a Jackson Randy Rhoads thats is very god and plays and sounds just about perfect...
Have had teles, stratos and they are good, but now I have 2 Ibanez Jems, one BSBand one Bad horsie BRMR)
They absolutely rape.... Ill never buy a new electric... even the Joe Satriani JS1000 is no match...
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:00 am



Quoting TSS (Reply 3):
What, no love for Telecasters around here? Okay then, of the three choices I'll go with the Strat.

Nope. Only Strats. Telecasters are funny looking.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
The Fender Stratocaster you have to be very careful. Some sound magnificent but an overwhelming majority of them belong in the garbage.

They're hit and miss. You get what you pay for. The more expensive ones sounds fantastic.

I love the sound of the Les Paul, but i don't really care for then aesthetically. They are still fantastic guitars.

There was a very pretty Vintage Stratocaster on the market last year. White with gold hardware. Very Stunning.

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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:30 pm

Telecasters are probably my favorite. Can't beat the noise both clean and overdriven.

I have a strat though which is a nice all rounder.
 
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:19 pm

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 19):
They're hit and miss. You get what you pay for. The more expensive ones sounds fantastic.

Very true.
I've even came a across a few made in Japan that sound incredible.

[Edited 2008-12-29 14:19:35]
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:17 pm



Quoting Nitepilot79 (Thread starter):



Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
The heaviness of the Les Paul is one of the things I like about that guitar.

in my humble(cough) opinion the heavier the guitar the heavier the sound, and when one tries to play metal and "slow-slow, smokey-house blues (ribs with a side of coleslaw)", the heavier the better!
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:44 am



Quoting Nitepilot79 (Reply 22):
when one tries to play metal and "slow-slow, smokey-house blues (ribs with a side of coleslaw)", the heavier the better!

Which makes me wonder why Alvin Lee did not play with a Les Paul, at least on stage. Ok, he had a 355, but still...  confused 
 
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:21 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Ass



Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
I love a big, fat, warm, bottom,

Now, was that an intentional typo right there?

I wouldn't expect any less from you, Fly.  Smile

To be honest, even when I'm playing stuff that doesn't actually require that low B string, I still prefer having it there. For some reason, I'm very uncomfortable picking the low E string when there's not another string there to pick through to. Maybe just cause I tend to pick pretty hard. I'm pretty sure I'm setting myself up for tendonitis with that. Oh well  Yeah sure
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:03 am



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 24):
Now, was that an intentional typo right there?

 Embarrassment  banghead 
Oh boy did I set myself up.  ashamed 
I was speaking in terms of the tone that the low B-string puts out.

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 24):
Maybe just cause I tend to pick pretty hard.

Pick?
Did you mean pluck?
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:35 am



Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
I was speaking in terms of the tone that the low B-string puts out.

Haha, I know....and to be fair, I didn't actually notice that typo the first time I read your post.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
Pick?
Did you mean pluck?

Yes. Fingerpick, pluck, whatever you want to call it. I put in a lot of practice in order to play fingerstyle reasonably well - and now I can't stand playing with a pick.
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RE: Les Paul, PRS, Or Strat(cough)?

Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:20 pm

None. I'll stick to my G&L!

Actually I've been a long time Fender player although I'm a bassist, not a guitarist. My main bass is a G&L L2500 (the ultimate Fender bass to me. It's like a Jazz on steroids). It's been everywhere with me, been thrown on and off planes, tour busses and trucks across Europe and Russia and never let me down once. I also have two Fender Precisions (one being the Sting Signature) and a fretless 5 string Fender Jazz, which I love, so yeah, I'm pretty much Fendeer all the way!

I think a lot of it depends purely what you start with, the same as cameras. I started using Canon, and as such the vast majority of my gear is Canon as they've always felt confortable to me (although I do have a Nikon DSLR as well and I love their gear also). With basses, I started learning on a Squire P. Bass so that typical Fender 34" scale has always felt right and familiar to me. Instruments like 35" scale Spectres usually feel too neck heavy for me. Not because they're bad instruments by any means, just because I'm not used to them.

Here's the bass I affectionately refer to as 'Baby No.1'.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UQy0SWt6mEk

Just a shame I can't actually play it!  Big grin

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