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Best Pickup Truck?

Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:55 pm

I'm studying the choices...Ford, Chevy, Toyota, and Dodge. I'm leaning toward Dodge and their made-over Ram for 2009. Do any of you have a 2009 Ram or any of the others for '09? Would you buy the truck again?
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:03 am

While I do not personally own the trucks I do have some expierence with some of them. Most of them are city driven and not used as they should be. The F150 the guy is happy with the interior, good for hauling around the family, makes him feel safe. The Dodge Ram 1500, my sisters BF has one, he has decked it out with rims, DVD players and the like, he likes it - I think its kinda childish. The Toyota, my friend has a Tundra and loves it. He beats it up drives it off road and drives it hard and swears buy it.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:03 am

I have become a big fan of the '09 Ram and their ideas. I hope I don't get in trouble with the moderators, but a good source of info on all pickups can be found at www.pickuptruck.com.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:07 am

The ram or F150. I have yet to drive a F150 but I have driven my dads (05) and love it. Theres only one downside of the ram: the tailgate sucks as its heavy. Good luck and let us know what you pick.

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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:17 am



Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 2):

The 09 ram is freakin fugly. And they're turning the interior into a car with every model year. Leather and wifi in a truck isnt practical. Why not just buy a nice SUV if you want that stuff?

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 3):
have yet to drive a F150 but I have driven my dads (05) and love it.

What?

Quoting Sleekjet (Thread starter):
Toyota

The Tundra has to be the ugliest "pickup" i've ever seen. Please for the name of all things sacred, dont buy a Tundra.

Quoting Sleekjet (Thread starter):
Would you buy the truck again?

I will never buy a dodge product. Our family test drove a ram a few years ago and it STALLED in the parking lot of the dealership.

But right now if I were buying a truck. Id either buy a Ford F-150, there is a reason its still the #1 selling truck in america. We had a '97 that lasted forever and now have a -250, and they are both solid, well built trucks. Id also consider a Chevy Silverado. Another solid truck and has a very good warranty.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:31 am

I had the chance to drive a '09 F150 (one of the MDs at work has one and let me drive it for a short spin around the hospital area streets). from my brief trip I would say that It is a nice truck. The doc says he likes it so. Sorry for he lack of an in depth review but this is the best I can add to the discussion

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 3):
I have driven my dads (05) and love it.

The '09 F150 is quite different from the ''05, whilst they both have a few blue ovals there have been a vast multitude of changes made to the '09.

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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:25 am

Ford F-350.

Just look at who the professionals are using.
Utility companies, paramedics, fire departments, tow truck companies and other industries use Ford trucks because they are simply the best trucks.



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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:46 am

Well, as an ex-GMer, I'm going to be prejudiced but not anecdotal towards the Silverado I own ( '06 4X4 1500 long bed w/ tow, off-road, etc).

Currently 58,157 miles (2,180.6 engine hours) now. I've abused this truck in the hills, through the weeds and creeks, pulled a couple of Fords out of the ditch, towed my trailer w/ tractor loaded and done a myriad of excursions that probably very few of you will and it has not let me down. The '09s are even better being re-engineered/designed and I've had a few hours in same whilst my '06 was loaned out. The only problem I've had w/ my truck was R&Ring a new transfer case when almost new...a warranty-covered defect that had me back on the road in a day. The amenities work great; air pumps cold in 100+F in about two minutes and the heat/defrrost crankshot in about three minutes on a 10-20F morning (good thermostat!). 65-70 MPH on the interstate gets me 20-22 MPG (no tow load), "hottting" it a little or in town gets about 15-17 MPG, and this is with a 4:10 rear axle ratio (in non-tow mode). Were I to do it again, I'd order a 3:73 axle because the little "Corvette" V-8 has plenty of torque.

Now, for the anecdotal scenarios. My son-in-law has a small-block V-8 Ford F150 (2005 model) that performs like a pig and he gets 2 to 3 mpg less than I do in same driving conditions (plus he doesn't use it off-road and it rattles to beat hell...ugh).

Good buddy that works with me is on his second new Dodge, a 2007 3500 Diesel Ram (the first one burned up because an engine compartment fire) and he's ready to test the Chevys and Fords because the current turbo Cummings "ain't got it".

Granted, these are reviews for light truck-trucks, not pussy-cruiser wanna-be trucks, but I thought I'd chime in. Although I'd like to see you check out the Chev/GMC brands to help me keep at least another 48 hours of my retirement from going down the crapper, I believe ALL the new US trucks (and, BTW, GM brands, Ford, Dodge, ARE all, all-new for '08/'09) are of great quality and I think they deserve your test-drive(s). If you want a one or two year old model...go Chevy or GMC for sure.

If you want a new truck, now is the time to buy! Dealers are starving and as an example, I saw an ad on TV for new Dodge Rams at 50% off MSRP on vehicles in stock.
P.S. Not to bash our overseas competetor nameplates, but I know more than a couple guys around here that aren't too happy with their Nissan et al vehicles for performance/quality reasons. regards...jack
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:04 am

Explains why nissan is having dodge replace their titan with a ram.

Ihadapheo,

My dad has an 05 ram and its better than a Tundra, and a titan combined. Tundras are wayy to freaking expensive. Saw one out the door for 50k. Titans; see above. The F150 is a good, durable, and reliable truck. I almost bought one when I bought my old suv.

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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:55 am

I have been driving GMC and Chevrolet trucks since 1988, before that Ford. . My 1988 GMC is still being driven by a friend. Still going strong.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:58 am

Unless I'm hauling around alot of crap daily, an F-150 or Ram is overkill. Those trucks have gotten huge over the years. The only truck that I'd look into is either the Tacoma or Frontier if I don't live on a farm and drive it to work everyday.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:00 am



Quoting Sleekjet (Thread starter):
I'm leaning toward Dodge and their made-over Ram for 2009.

Don't know what part of Texas you are in but here in Houston I am still trying to figure out when the steering wheel hand warmer will come into play! laughing 

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Just look at who the professionals are using.

Ford absolutely ruined the front of that truck. It looks more like the National Lampoons family truckster every year. irked 
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:27 am



Quoting Sleekjet (Thread starter):
Best Pickup Truck?

This is an honest question: do you really need a truck? I mean, REALLY? Or do you just want one?

If yes, then read no further. All power to you...


Otherwise...and this is just my humble opinion, if you're gonna get one just as a status symbol (like 90% of all people who get trucks nowadays  Yeah sure ) and rarely ever haul stuff in the back or take it off road, then you're wasting your money, And no, I'm not a tree-hugging eco-freak. People driving the damned Prius use them as status symbols as well, failing to realize they do poorly as efficient and "eco-friendly" vehicles they're all hyped up to be in the long run.

All I'm saying is, your money could be much better spent in a decent sedan or coupe.

Then again, if you have money to waste, then all power to you as well.
 
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:30 am

You haven't given us much info about what you need (especially about the size).

But here's how I see it, FWIW I have owned Ford F150, Chevy 3/4 ton, GMC 1/2 ton and now Tacoma.

Ford and Chevy are good as work trucks. Pretty reliable, easy to maintain and parts are cheap and readily available.

Dodge are nasty trucks. Build quality is the worst of all those in this list. They're mainly used as mall crawlers as people like to deck them out with nasty aftermarket accessories. I have hardly ever seen them on construction sites - a testament to their lack of ruggedness. There's a reason why they were discounted 50% last year. The one slavation with Dodge are the Cummins engine which is good.

Toyota are great quailty - Tacoma especially. It's not as powerful/big as the big 3's half tons, but if you don't need the extra capacity and you can afford the extra $$$ up front, do it. You'll get it back in the end - the depreciation is the best in class. You won't want to sell it though - they last forever.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:30 am



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 4):
I will never buy a dodge product. Our family test drove a ram a few years ago and it STALLED in the parking lot of the dealership.

Dodge RAMs are notorious for their quality - one stall is hardly grounds to write off an entire line of cars.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:48 am



Quoting DXing (Reply 11):
Ford absolutely ruined the front of that truck. It looks more like the National Lampoons family truckster every year.

Trucks are supposed to be ugly.

Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 12):
This is an honest question: do you really need a truck? I mean, REALLY? Or do you just want one?

Sleekjet doesn't owe any of us a reason for buying a truck.
From what I remember, it looks like he lives on a ranch in rural Texas from one of the self pictures threads in the past. A pick up truck is a necessity in that environment.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:56 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Sleekjet doesn't owe any of us a reason for buying a truck.

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I like all three choices for an American full size truck. I like GM trucks, but I do like that F-150. I would drive all three and see what you like best. If I still didn't know I would flip a coin.

Save a few bucks and buy a clean 1973-1987 GM truck. If you can find a non rusty one you have a truck that will last forever and is super cheap and easy to fix. My 84 has ??? miles on it and I painted over the rust with a brush, but it runs and drives like new. I would drive it anywhere.
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A buddy of mine has a "1976" Chevy truck and it is his daily driver. he puts about 30,000 miles a year on it. His 76 is made from parts of a 76, 79,78,82, and a 85 Chevy Caprice. The frame and cab are a 76 so that is where the "1976" comes from. It is all painted one color (done the right way, not a brush like me) and looks good.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:45 pm

The Toyota Hilux is the one the Top Gear guys took to the North Pole. That's got to be a selling point!

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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:50 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 16):
Save a few bucks and buy a clean 1973-1987 GM truck. If you can find a non rusty one....

Good luck with that!
GM trucks are inferior to Ford in that department.

My favorite trucks of all time would be the 1992-1997 Ford F-350 Crew Cab with duallys, 4WD, 7.3 liter Powerstroke diesel engine with camper shell.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:16 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Trucks are supposed to be ugly.

Trucks are supposed to have "character" ie dings, dents, scratches all over the bed and box. That thing looks like people took turns bolting on as much ugly as they could to the front end.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
My favorite trucks of all time would be the 1992-1997 Ford F-350 Crew Cab with duallys, 4WD, 7.3 liter Powerstroke diesel engine with camper shell.

Mine would be the 1997-2007 F250 or 350 with the 8 foot, the crew cab, and the diesel. Preferably in the King Ranch edition.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:59 pm



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 4):
The 09 ram is freakin fugly. And they're turning the interior into a car with every model year. Leather and wifi in a truck isnt practical. Why not just buy a nice SUV if you want that stuff?

They're pleasing multiple markets. If you don't like it, don't but it. Don't know about you, but I know I wouldn't want to haul bags of manure or a catch of fish in the back of an SUV.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):

One of the greatest work trucks ever, but it is too much vehicle for most that even want a pickup.

I personally admire Dodge's thinking on the 09' 1500 Ram. Gambling with coil suspension in the rear, and from some reviews I have read it may be paying off. Very good off road qualities. Sure, handling suffers with a heavy load, but the market Dodge is aiming at seldomly if even ever, would load down the vehicle to it's max capacity. Yet, it is great for every day driving.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:57 pm



Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 13):
Toyota are great quailty - Tacoma especially. It's not as powerful/big as the big 3's half tons, but if you don't need the extra capacity and you can afford the extra $$$ up front, do it. You'll get it back in the end - the depreciation is the best in class. You won't want to sell it though - they last forever.

The frame rustout comes at no extra charge. Now that's smart thinking, moving you forward.


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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:49 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 21):
The frame rustout comes at no extra charge. Now that's smart thinking, moving you forward.


Oh cut it out, Did you see that most of those complaints were about older trucks? The newest Tacoma complained about is an 05 and in reality the actual number of trucks that will have problems is probably not all that high compared to the number of Toyotas that will last forever, Now I drive an 09 Tacoma and I love driving it and yes I have hauled stuff with it. I wouldn't be to quick to criticize the Toyota trucks, My brother also has an 08 tacoma and hasn't had any issues with it and my dad used to have a 2000 Tundra for awhile with no issues.

Now I'm not saying that there aren't better vehicles then a Toyota I'm just saying that I wouldn't be so quick to criticize them, As Toyota makes very high quality vehicles.


Now Sleekjet, I think what truck you get is dependent on where you will use it and for what purpose you will need it for. If you won't have to haul to many very heavy loads then I would lean towards the Tacoma, However if you need something bigger then that I would without hesitation look at the F150 or Tundra. In the end it will be ultimately up to you to chose what you want and need.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:38 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 21):
The frame rustout comes at no extra charge. Now that's smart thinking, moving you forward.

That was a limitted number of vehicles affected due to a quality control issue. Toyota stepped up to the plate and bought back the affected vehicles.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:22 pm

For the Tundra lovers....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJZVUnOduH4
All things considered, I think the Tundra may go down as a colossal blunder on Toyotas part.

That said, it can be very difficult to judge new designs. I happen to be a fan of vehicles with well designed engines that pass the test of time and move on into classic status. The Chevy 350 (5.7L) was one of those but it is no longer available in anything newer than 10 years old. I've been in the market for a used truck in the $5,000 range and found there are two clear winners in trucks 5-8 years old.
Ford F150 has a 5.4L that is very efficient and seems to be living a long life. Best in its class for mileage. Chevy has a 5.3L that everybody raves about. My internet questions and surveys show relatively little praise for Tundras as well as Dodge gas engined.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:29 pm



Quoting Treebeard787 (Reply 22):
As Toyota makes very high quality vehicles.

Sure, as long as their frames dont rust out. Funny, ive never heard of a massive recall of fords or chevys or dodges because after a few years their frame is falling apart...
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:38 pm



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 21):



Laughing at your own 'jokes'. Meh.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
Sure, as long as their frames dont rust out. Funny, ive never heard of a massive recall of fords or chevys or dodges because after a few years their frame is falling apart...

Err, I'm not sure it was 'massive'. And in any case, Ford/Chev/Dodge don't bother recalling their trucks over a few years old cos they're all in junk yards already.
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:41 pm



Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 26):
Ford/Chev/Dodge don't bother recalling their trucks over a few years old cos they're all in junk yards already.

Yup, just keep replaying that stereotype over and over and over....  sarcastic 
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:10 pm



Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 20):
I personally admire Dodge's thinking on the 09' 1500 Ram. Gambling with coil suspension in the rear, and from some reviews I have read it may be paying off. Very good off road qualities. Sure, handling suffers with a heavy load, but the market Dodge is aiming at seldomly if even ever, would load down the vehicle to it's max capacity. Yet, it is great for every day driving.

Word is that the 2500/3500 restyle for '10 won't be using coil suspension, and will be styled slightly differently than the 1500. There are also rumors that the next generation Dakotas will also use coil suspension, they will be smaller and built on the same chassis (LX) that the Charger/Challenger/300C are built on. The Dakota is supposedly being aimed as a "lifestyle vehicle". Now what that means, who knows. Personally, I was really hoping that the new version of the Jeep Scrambler was going to be put into production (The mules that were spotted were apparently designs for a military jeep for either Egypt or Israel.), but a Jeep pickup seems to be dead outside of a conversion kit marketed by AEV called the Brute.
 
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:25 pm



Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 23):
That was a limitted number of vehicles affected due to a quality control issue. Toyota stepped up to the plate and bought back the affected vehicles.

As well they should have. Fact is, it never should have happened in the first place.

Quoting Treebeard787 (Reply 22):
Oh cut it out, Did you see that most of those complaints were about older trucks? The newest Tacoma complained about is an 05 and in reality the actual number of trucks that will have problems is probably not all that high compared to the number of Toyotas that will last forever,

Oh, I'm sorry.

But then....

Quoting Treebeard787 (Reply 22):
Now I drive an 09 Tacoma and I love driving it and yes I have hauled stuff with it. I wouldn't be to quick to criticize the Toyota trucks, My brother also has an 08 tacoma and hasn't had any issues with it and my dad used to have a 2000 Tundra for awhile with no issues.

A little biased, are we? How many trucks were involved in this recall/buyback?
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:49 pm

I would recommend Ford & GM trucks as your best bet.

Steer clear of Dodge. All of the people that I know that have owned a Dodge pickup truck have complained about the quality of build, in addition to frequent reliability complaints.

My mother is a fleet manager for the BC Government and therefore keeps record of maintenance and repairs on a vast pick-up fleet... and she says that the Dodge trucks are by far the worst when it comes to break downs & repairs.

Dodge trucks might look nice... but it's deceiving. I think back to my 2000 Dodge Durango and all the problems that I had with it... and it was the last Chrysler-built piece of junk I will ever own.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:56 pm



Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 26):
Ford/Chev/Dodge don't bother recalling their trucks over a few years old cos they're all in junk yards already.

I guess the massive amount of GM and Ford trucks from the 1950s on up that are still on the road don't impress you. Even in the rust belt the amount of 30 year old GM and Ford trucks on the road is amazing compared to any other 30 year old vehicle. You can't go a day without seeing a 73-87 GM truck on the road someplace in the USA. In many parts of the country you still see three or four a day. There are two in my driveway right now. Toyota trucks rusted out years ago and you don't even see older ones in junkyards anymore because they crapped out at 10 years. The GM and Ford trucks in the Junkyards are at least 25 years old, unless they were wrecked.

A sign of a good truck is when rednecks and good ole' boys drive them. When I see rednecks, in the heartland (places like Missouri, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois) drive Toyotas the I will be convinced they are good trucks.

On the way home from work today my exhaust rusted off, on my truck. It is original equipment from 1984. I can't believe it lasted this long (The truck is from Michigan). 25 years on one exhaust pipe in Michigan is outstanding.

That truck is Great!

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 23):
That was a limitted number of vehicles affected due to a quality control issue

But from what I hear from the Toyota loving masses is that Toyotas never have problems so I don't know how this could have happened.  Yeah sure
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:59 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 29):

How many trucks were involved in this recall/buyback?

I was also interested to read more about this rust recall. A quick Google search shows anywhere from 850,000 to over a million were bought back, and millions more failed the rust inspection but were refused any compensation due to no warranty, being a used car, previous accidents, or some other stupid loophole Toyota felt like using.

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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:02 am



Quoting Jpax (Reply 32):
I was also interested to read more about this rust recall. A quick Google search shows anywhere from 850,000 to over a million were bought back, and millions more failed the rust inspection but were refused any compensation due to no warranty, being a used car, previous accidents, or some other stupid loophole Toyota felt like using.

850k-1 mil, a far cry from:

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 23):
a limitted number of vehicles affected due to a quality control issue.

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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:05 am



Quoting Jpax (Reply 32):
and millions more failed the rust inspection but were refused any compensation due to no warranty, being a used car, previous accidents, or some other stupid loophole Toyota felt like using.

Toyota is in business to make money, just like everyone else. They aren't perfect, but a lot of people think they are. Remember a few years ago with the engine sludge issues. It was a problem with the PCV system. Some people really had to fight with Toyota to get new engines covered under warranty.

I once repaired a Toyota Previa van for a woman that had a leaky radiator. When I told her what was wrong she said "but that can't be Toyotas don't break down". I told her that they have a service and parts department at the dealer for a reason.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:43 am

I am a Ford guy.
I have:
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2000 Ford F250 2x4 auto 7.3 Power Stroke.
2002 Ford Ranger auto 3.0 flex fuel
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:01 am

I have a 2007 F150 and to me its been the perfect truck. It doesnt win on looks, but it will take loads of abuse, heavy weights, great for pulling trailers, good off road and in snow / ice, but also great for going on vacation with the family and cruising.

Im still not really sold on the look of the 09 F150, I have to decide at the end of the year whether to trade in or keep and Im 50/50 right now. Various magazines do the comparison tests, in the same month one says Chevy #1, another says Dodge, another says Ford. From what I can tell, there are the least complaints about Fords and the most praise. At the end of the day, they are what you see the most on construction sites and that must be for a reason. But if youre just going to use it to do the shopping and Dodge are giving Ram's away, then Im pretty sure it wont be terrible!

I did drive the Ram with the V10 out of the Viper round a parking lot - now thats a scary truck!!

Suzuki have also now got a truck  eyepopping  (but its only a rebadged Nissan...)
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:26 am

Ford F150, i drive a silver 08 Ford F150 XLT Triton 5.4 4 door with Chrome Package and although this is my first car, I have loved it!
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:31 am

Too bad none of them can be had with a manual transmission. What a sad state of affairs.
 
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:47 am



Quoting Mham001 (Reply 38):
Too bad none of them can be had with a manual transmission. What a sad state of affairs.

Sure about that?
The Ford F-350 does come with a manual transmission.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:07 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 31):
I guess the massive amount of GM and Ford trucks from the 1950s on up that are still on the road don't impress you. Even in the rust belt the amount of 30 year old GM and Ford trucks on the road is amazing compared to any other 30 year old vehicle. You can't go a day without seeing a 73-87 GM truck on the road someplace in the USA. In many parts of the country you still see three or four a day. There are two in my driveway right now

That's right....I nearly bought a mid eighties Chevrolet C20 to replace the Mitsubishi, and the only thing that stopped me was the 350 with the Quadrajet under the hood. It was in good shape, no accident damage, very little rust and the guy was only asking $900 for it. Had it had a 6 cylinder and manual transmission, it would be here now.

One thing you do not see a lot of here is people using Tundra/Ridgeline/Nissan big trucks to push snow plows, because those sons of bitches would buckle like an unbaked pretzel.

If you want to play at it by all means buy from Toyota, Honda or Nissan but if you want a truck because you need one to do truck stuff with, your choices are down to 2, maybe three.
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RE: Best Pickup Truck?

Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:07 am



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 28):
Word is that the 2500/3500 restyle for '10 won't be using coil suspension, and will be styled slightly differently than the 1500.

I think that was a given since the coil can't handle as much as the the leafs.

Quoting A332 (Reply 30):
Steer clear of Dodge. All of the people that I know that have owned a Dodge pickup truck have complained about the quality of build, in addition to frequent reliability complaints.

Well, I think you should widen your input. I have had a Dakota since 2001 and could file my complaints to www.squat.com. (um, not a real site)
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