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Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:34 am

In light of the inauguration of the 44th President Barack Obama and the all the fanfare surrounding him I was wondering who are your favourite leaders and why?

From Winston Churchill to JFK or Martin Luther King. From great Statesmen to great Military leaders.

Who brings tears to your eyes? Who makes you proud to be from the same country as that person?

[Edited 2009-01-27 16:37:18]
 
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:14 am



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Thread starter):
Who brings tears to your eyes? Who makes you proud to be from the same country as that person?

This guy...



Hugh Hefner was instrumental in changing the social mores of this country for the better. The internet would totally suck without the changes.
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:19 am

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 1):
The internet would totally suck without the changes.

Thanks for going so deep.(No pun intended) 

[Edited 2009-01-27 17:21:57]
 
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:22 am

Omar Bradley, Bull Halsey, MCPO Henry Chaves
 
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:50 am

Helmut Schmidt, Konrad Adenauer and Willy Brandt. Amongst many reasons, Adenauer for being one of the people who helped build the Germany we live in today, Willy Brandt for his efforts of normalising relations with the East (e.g. the Grundlagenvertrag, and the knee fall in Warsaw), and Helmut Schmidt for leading us through one of our darkest chapters in the history of our young republic (the era, when domestic terrorism was at his high, aka "Deutscher Herbst"), for helping lay the foundations of what has become the Euro, as well as strenghening Germany's position as a valuable partner in the West (also through strenghening the friendship between France and Germany).

Of all three, the one I respect the most is Helmut Schmidt. He's a gifted speaker, he speaks his mind and is not afraid of puting the finger into fresh wounds for it, and a man of great character and immediate action.
 
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:29 am

Has to be M.K.GANDHI
A person who did lots for so many & took nothing in return.

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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:01 am



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Thread starter):
who are your favourite leaders and why?

French President Charles de Gaulle and his British counterparts for making Concorde possible.
 airplane   cheerful 

It was in 1962.

In a speech on January 13 of 1963 General de Gaulle gave a name to the new supersonic transport aircraft to be built. The name was "Concorde" . The British gave the name "Concord" to their SST aircraft without the "e" at the end.

and then she took off for the very first time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHPv0eEdjCU

2 March 1969 Toulouse Blagnac
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:58 am

My picks:

Winston Churchill - (In his own words) "the poor little English donkey who was the only one who knew the right way home."

Mohandas Gandhi - The man who showed the world how to obtain freedom without resorting to violence.

Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr - "The ultimate measure of a man [...] at times of challenge and controversy."

Abraham Lincoln - The man who put an entire nation on the line for equality.

Romeo Dallaire - The man who sacrifised his sanity to do the right thing when the entire world was wrong.
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:12 pm



Quoting TheCol (Reply 7):
Abraham Lincoln - The man who put an entire nation on the line for equality.

You do realize that if Abe Lincoln were alive today, he would be as hated as GW Bush - probably even worse. Lincoln was not only a Republicn, but he actually rescinded Habeus Corpus for US citizens, which Bush never came close to doing, not to mention engaging in a war designed to keep the Southern states from exercising their free will to go their own way.

I find the Irony amusing...

Anyway, back to the question.

Winston Churchill - a blowhard who often got himself in trouble for leaping before looking (since before the first world war), he still had fortitude and determination that almost singlehandedly prevented Britain from folding in 1940 and 41.

Ronald Reagan - His boundless optimism and a deceptively shrewd mind gave hope to a despirited nation and prompted a 25 year boom with only a few stumbles along the way. Anyone reading his diaries will find him to be far from the dumb movie actor people have tried to portray him as (sound familiar?). He was a visionary, and he thought 20-50 years into the future.

George Washington - Like Churchill, he had the fortitude to stay the course when the road was darkest. Singlehandedly responsible for the USA not becoming a monarchy. Had to be coaxed to political office - he did not want the presidency, but knew that only he could successfully fill the roll at the time.

George Patton - Study your enemy, use his own tactics against him, and keep kicking him in the ass again and again and again until he cries for mercy.

Robert E Lee - Extraordinary depth of character, his few writings show a man with a tremendous gift for honor, decency, and wisdom. And don't forget his prowess on the battlefield, where he made a habit of beating Union forces far larger than his. It is a pity that he did not have the time or inclination to write more in terms of memoirs.

Admiral John Jellicoe - His contemporaries blamed him for over-caution, that he blew the chance of decisively defeating the High Seas Fleet at Jutland and elsewhere. But his caution came from always remembering his mission, and thanks to him, the High Seas Fleet spent only a few days out of port during the whole war, and was never a serious factor.

I could also mention the great tacticians of WWII, especially Gudarian and Rommel.
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:44 pm

Just a few that come to my mind...

Nelson Mandela - Made SA a democratic country

Haile Selassie - Defended Ethiopia against Italian struggle to colonize it

John F. Kennedy

Yasser Arafat
 
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:07 pm

George W. Bush. (However I don't get tears in my eyes)

He could careless about his reputation and did what he believed was best for his country.
 
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RE: Greatest Leader's

Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:06 pm

Nelson Mandela - after visiting various parts of the country where he made a difference, and the fact that he believed in the cause of reconciliation rather than revenge is in my eyes one of the most admirable things a man could do.

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