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U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:01 am

I was watching a documentary about the U.S. Military and in one segment they interviewed a U.S. Naval Commander (O-5) wearing the dark suit, white button down uniform shirt and dark tie (to match the color of the suit). The suit may have even been a double breasted suit. My question is this Commander had a beautiful and fairly large set of gold braids over his left shoulder and covered most of his ribbons. I have not seen that often. I just wanted to know what those braids mean? Thanks

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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:04 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguillette
http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/...unireg/chapter5/CHAPTER_5.htm#sec4

I believe these aiguilette's are what you are talking about. Typically worn by attaches and aides and staff type personnel.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:46 am



Quoting Tiger119 (Thread starter):



Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 1):

Yeah it looks like Dragon hit the nail on the head.

Without seeing a picture, it's hard to be completely positive, but your description fits the aiguillette. It sounds as though the commander was wearing his mess/dinner dress uniform.

It's been particularly crazy, as of late, since almost every branch is undergoing uniform changes, from dress, to utility, to mess dress. I'm not sure any of the changes have been for the best. Even the Army's decision to scrap the Class-A uniform was bungled, when they rejected the overwhelming internal polls showing soldiers wanted an updated WWII khaki uniform. And the Air Force's new uniforms? Good god.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:22 pm



Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Without seeing a picture, it's hard to be completely npositive, but your description fits the aiguillette.

Best one I could find:
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:48 am

The Commander in the video I saw had a lot of braids over left shoulder, and it looked like brass tips on the ends of some of the braids on the front of his uniform.

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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:58 am



Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 4):
a lot of braids over left shoulder

Ah, those would be Dress Aiguillettes:

They are worn with Formal Dress, Dinner Dress, Full Dress, and Service Dress uniforms, and the overcoat and all-weather coat during official ceremonies, occasions requiring special honors, social functions (as directed), all social functions where a formal invitation has been extended, and at all times by aides to foreign repre­sentatives.

The photo I posted is the Service Aiguillette, worn during less formal occasions (the officer is wearing the Service Dress uniform).

As to why he was wearing it: The Aide to the President, Aide to the Vice President, aides at the White House, and officers designated as aides to foreign heads of state wear aiguil­lettes on the right shoulder; all others on the left shoulder.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:46 am



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 5):
and officers designated as aides to foreign heads of state wear aiguil­lettes on the right shoulder; all others on the left shoulder.

- Now that I watch it again, I see that it is filmed in a European country at what looks like a dinner function with both U.S. Sailors and military officers from that country, BUT I am sure there were more braids that shown in the illustration and it was over the officer's left shoulder,

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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:27 am



Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
Now that I watch it again, I see that it is filmed in a European country at what looks like a dinner function with both U.S. Sailors and military officers from that country, BUT I am sure there were more braids that shown in the illustration and it was over the officer's left shoulder,

What was the name of the show? Maybe we could find a video clip to link to, for a better idea of what you were seeing.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:44 am

I believe it was either The History Channel or The Discovery Channel special about The Blue Angels, maybe ten years old or maybe older, after USSR disolved.

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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:07 pm

I actually own that on VHS! When you mentioned it I knew exactly what scene you are talking about. I will watch it later and get a better idea, it has been a while. As I recall they title the guy the naval attache to the American Embassy in Moscow.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:49 pm



Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 9):
own that on VHS!

VHS? lol, don't date yourself!
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:20 pm

I think I bought that way back when I was in school in Pensacola, 11 or 12 years ago I would say.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:26 pm



Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 11):
I think I bought that way back when I was in school in Pensacola, 11 or 12 years ago I would say.

lol, yeah that's what I'm say! 11-12 years ago I was in school also... in 8th grade!

I'm just messing with you. But in all seriousness, do you still have the tape? Can you go back and see what the OP is talking about?
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:29 am

I still have the tape, as far as I know. The wife has been "storing" some stuff. I will try and check it tomorrow.
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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:43 am



Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 12):
Can you go back and see what the OP is talking about?

- The people (in uniforms) were talking about foreign relations.

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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:03 am

Speaking of navy uniform check out this UDT/SEAL shorts. Daisy Duke would certainly approve!  wideeyed 

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RE: U.S. Navy Uniform Question

Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:40 am



Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 10):
VHS? lol, don't date yourself!

- So am I by posting this thread. The naval officer had many breads over his shoulder though.

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