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Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:42 am

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece

I guess it's not really shocking the age, but rather how young the kid looks himself.

Well, best of luck to him and the mother. Of course, the child will be 5 when her dad reaches age of majority.

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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:53 am

ha! this is the best thing i've read all week. he has noooo idea what hes in for
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:21 am

Something tells me it's not his kid....

I mean....
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:13 am

If that's the mom...Ugh.  vomit 
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:34 am

Wow...  Wow!  boggled 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:36 am

It just seems so...wrong...so very very wrong.

A jewel from the article:

" The shy lad, whose voice has not yet broken, said: “I thought it would be good to have a baby.
“I didn’t think about how we would afford it. I don’t really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10.” "

Quoting LH423 (Thread starter):
Of course, the child will be 5 when her dad reaches age of majority.

They can have a party...celebrate her starting kindergarten and his ability to buy beer.
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:08 am

Wow! Two freaks have met and that is the outcome!

Imagine, if the new family tradition continues he could be grandfather before he reaches 30. Big grin
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:24 am



Now if THIS guy can get laid, there is NO excuse for the rest of you Airliners.net members!  

Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Reply 7):




They can have a party...celebrate her starting kindergarten and his ability to buy beer.

  




Whats it all about, Alfie?  Big grin

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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:53 am

That's rather.. Disturbing. Just imagine putting yourself in those shoes and having NO life after this kid because you're looking after him. Childhood thoughts of "I want a baby" must have still be in his mind at the time..
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:30 am

As I saw elsewhere, at least she didn't have 8 kids  cheeky 

But on a more serious note, this suggests the very serious problem we have in dealing with sexual responsibility in many countries. We far too often glorify sex without responsibility in our entertainment media or that it can create new human life. Many parents do not take their their responsibility as to the education of their children in sexual responability, far too often peers of the children educate them and in the worst way. Then in some places, we only teach abstence or only that you can get a disease from sex, that is fear rather than teach the need to choose not to have sex and how to reduce the circumstances it can occur as to under 18's.

I do hope the child will be well, I do like the fact the girl didn't choose to have an abortion. I don't like that some here and elsewhere the negative comments as to her appearance. One doesn't have to be good looking to have sex.
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:38 am

Gob smacked!
My god, he was only 12 when they conceived! Is there anything "down there" when you're that age? I sure can't remember!

I wonder what that poor boy is thinking now - the seriousness of this all, and that there's no turning back once a sprog has come into the world...

I somehow fear that he is going to grow up with some serious issues. I really feel sorry for him becaus he has been robbed of his youth.
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:43 am



Quoting Gardermoen (Reply 12):
I really feel sorry for him becaus he has been robbed of his youth.

It seems like he robbed himself of his youth and at the same time he was totally unaware that he did.
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:35 pm

Thanks for stealing my story. I tried to post this last night to a bevy of server errors.

Anyway, thanks Britain, you give the Deep South and our inner-cities something to strive for!
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:59 pm

Anyone else keep hearing the words "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry" in their heads?
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:09 pm

I didn't even know where to stick it at the age...I was just discovering my right hand.
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:22 pm

As a specialist in adolescent medicine...

*sigh*

*deep sigh*

*buries face in hands*

*SCREAM*babble*SCREAM*

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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:31 pm

Wow!  eek , this just seems sad and wrong.....

But, something tells me there's some B.S. in this "story".
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:22 pm

This boy can barely take care of himself, how could he ever be taking care of a child?

 Yeah sure

I have seen this other thing on BBC News about a 9 year old who wrote a dating guide that has become a NYTimes best seller.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7887000/7887032.stm

Now, desperate bachelors, looking for a fresh perspective, are taking dating tips from a nine-year-old boy.

Alec Greven, from Colorado, is the author of How To Talk To Girls.

The book, which started as an elementary school project, has become a New York Times best-seller.

 Yeah sure
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:48 pm



Quoting Euclid (Reply 16):
Anyone else keep hearing the words "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry" in their heads?

Nope - I keep picturing them in my mind on the Jeremy Kyle show in a few years time.
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:48 pm



Quoting Madameconcorde (Reply 20):
Now, desperate bachelors, looking for a fresh perspective, are taking dating tips from a nine-year-old boy.

I've got no problems with this...good for the kid for having the initiative for doing something that he could make a profit off of.

It's not like he knocked up anybody and is relying on the state to support him. Every book that kid sells actually adds to the govt. coffers due to sales tax.
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:52 pm

He looks like he is under 10 years old, how is he going to handle this?
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:59 pm



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 21):
Nope - I keep picturing them in my mind on the Jeremy Kyle show in a few years time.

That's excactly what I was thinking. I bet they will be on demanding a DNA test, because the kid won't be his and she won't know who the father is. I can just see Jeremy now, lol.

Quoting Madameconcorde (Reply 20):
I have seen this other thing on BBC News about a 9 year old who wrote a dating guide that has become a NYTimes best seller.

If kids are having kids and writing about dating, there no hope for me now at the age of 29. I think I'm classed as over the hill now, lol.
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:17 pm



Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 25):
That's excactly what I was thinking. I bet they will be on demanding a DNA test, because the kid won't be his and she won't know who the father is

I would lay money on it.

Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 25):
I can just see Jeremy now, lol.

That poor girl - she'll be in for one serious, fake-angry, moralistic telling off from the Kyle himself!
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:28 pm

This is really disturbing, sick. I am really shocked. Only 13 years old!!! Wow.
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:37 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 27):
Only 13 years old!!! Wow.

Not even through puberty!!!
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:54 pm



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 28):
Not even through puberty!!!

Exactly. Really fascinating, and the most amazing part is that he had the unprotected sex when he was only 12 years old!!
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:03 pm



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 21):
Nope - I keep picturing them in my mind on the Jeremy Kyle show in a few years time

In a few years? Wouldnt be surprised if they were on it next week!
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:16 pm

The sad-act in me laughed at how young he looks till I realised that my own brother is 13..

I have no sympathy with them anyway. I've just seen this posted over on www.ultimate-guitar.com and to be honest how in the hell are those two getting it on? She has to have realised that even a 13 year old that looks 13 is too young, never mind one that looks about 7.

Saying that though... look on the upside. If he can get laid nobody else has an excuse anymore  Wink
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:23 pm



Quoting Us330 (Reply 22):
I've got no problems with this...good for the kid for having the initiative for doing something that he could make a profit off of.

Hell yeah! I wish I'd written a NY Times Bestseller when I was 9!

Besides, the kid himself says:

"I'm a little too young for all that dating and everything," he said."

Good for him.
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:50 pm

Geeseh and I lost my cherry at 19. Hope that kid has fast learning ability otherwise, its gonna be a tough world for him till he is 31.

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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:53 pm

Why in the heck is he allowed to stay at her house besides the kid. Also, you the chances of them getting pregnant is slightly higher now that Alfie knows how to have intercourse. I hope Alfie knows how to use a condom or chantelle is on birth control.
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Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:59 pm



Quoting Acheron (Reply 3):
If that's the mom...Ugh.

Ya really  yuck 

Honestly though, this is just one case that just so happened to be discovered by the media, I'm willing to bet this happens way way more often than what we're normally used to hearing.
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:23 am



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 36):

The kid isn't his. If it is... WOW. He must have some really viable sperm for a 12 year-old. Huh when I was 12 I think I was still shooting blanks.

You would be amazed at the surprises I have found on examination of kids who I thought were pre-pubertal or in very early puberty. Sometimes the face does not match the genital maturation at all.

13 is old enough to be making sperm, albeit maybe not a lot of them. But remember, it only takes one fast one.
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:07 am



Quoting Madameconcorde (Reply 20):
This boy can barely take care of himself, how could he ever be taking care of a child?



I have seen this other thing on BBC News about a 9 year old who wrote a dating guide that has become a NYTimes best seller.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7887000/7887032.stm

Now, desperate bachelors, looking for a fresh perspective, are taking dating tips from a nine-year-old boy.

Alec Greven, from Colorado, is the author of How To Talk To Girls.

The book, which started as an elementary school project, has become a New York Times best-seller.


So what, her family is permanently on the dole, so what´s the difference.
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:36 am



Am I the only one seeing the resemblance?


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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:33 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 6):
Imagine, if the new family tradition continues he could be grandfather before he reaches 30. Big grin

 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:17 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 6):
Imagine, if the new family tradition continues he could be grandfather before he reaches 30.

Or a great-grandfather before 45.  Smile
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:59 pm

[quote=Superfly,reply=7]Now if THIS guy can get laid, there is NO excuse for the rest of you Airliners.net members! [/quote


 rotfl   rotfl 

When I heard about it I didn't think much, I'm pretty liberal but this has certainly stretched the boundaries. When I saw the pic of them together I was shocked. He looks like a 9 year old.

The damage is done and I just hope that with support from Social services and family they can sort it out. Both parents should be encouraged to continue their education and attend parenting courses. They should also receive counseling. It can go either way.

A : They grow up quickly , accept their duties and eventually get married and become a family unit. Get though school and get decent jobs.

B: They get totally screwed up , baby gets taken into care and the two parents become liabilities to the state.

Sadly the trend in the UK points to B in these circumstances. I hope I'm wrong though.
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:35 pm



Quoting OA260 (Reply 43):

The damage is done and I just hope that with support from Social services and family they can sort it out. Both parents should be encouraged to continue their education and attend parenting courses. They should also receive counseling. It can go either way.

I completely disagree. I believe that no individual under 18 should be permitted to raise a child. Children should never be allowed to raise children. That very rule would implode the teenage pregnancy rate. Girls would simply not be interested in getting pregnant if they knew that they couldn't keep the baby. And I work with teenagers who get pregnant. That's my job. They rarely get pregnant entirely by accident. Usually the boy is trying to get the girl pregnant to prove that he had sex with her so that he can prove his manhood. Seriously, no joke.

Furthermore, I would also institute a rule that you may have a maximum of three children for which you require government assistance. If you have three such children, you must undergo permanent or semipermanent sterilization or you lose all benefits.

Have as many kids as you like as long as you can raise them and provide for them without government assistance. But if you can't make the decision to plan your family such that you can afford it, then we might have to make that choice for you.

Incidentally, did you know that 63% of sexually active African-American teenagers reported using condoms while only 53% of white teenagers reported the same?
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:04 pm

Very well said doc. I have believed in that someone should attempt to get a law that permits a teen having kid till he or she is 18. I dated a 16yr that had a kid. He gave her $200 a month. Last I saw her, she was out clubbing.

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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:07 pm



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 45):
I dated a 16yr that had a kid. He gave her $200 a month. Last I saw her, she was out clubbing

Thats no big deal in this day an age!
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:39 pm



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 45):
I dated a 16yr that had a kid. He gave her $200 a month

Your friend is getting off a bit easy by only having to pay the mom $200.00/month. But I guess it is based on your friends income and that is what the court decided what he could pay.

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BTW the number of 14-16 girls delivering recently has been quite high, the shocking part comes in when they are having their 2nd child at 16. I guess I am getting old and bitter as the seeing 24 year olds coming in who have been pregnant 9 (only 2 or three did they carry to term) limes barely causes me to raise an eyebrow.
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Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:52 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 44):
That very rule would implode the teenage pregnancy rate.

Certainly would not. It would mean taking children into state care and thousands of more broken homes.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 44):
you must undergo permanent or semipermanent sterilization or you lose all benefits.

A bit extreme.
 
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Quoting Ihadapheo (Reply 47):

Your friend is getting off a bit easy by only having to pay the mom $200.00/month. But I guess it is based on your friends income and that is what the court decided what he could pay.

Very true, but the last I heard she was using it for stuff besides her kid and he was in jail or on probation.

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Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 45):
Very well said doc. I have believed in that someone should attempt to get a law that permits a teen having kid till he or she is 18. I dated a 16yr that had a kid. He gave her $200 a month. Last I saw her, she was out clubbing.

What's wrong with her out clubbing? Moms need to have lives, too. The problem is the decision to have a baby at 16 and keep it.

Typical, representative cases I've seen.

Case 1) 16yo F brought in from juvenile detention center in shackles to the ED. She is pregnant at 7 weeks and complaining of vaginal bleeding with some mild cramping. We discuss the possibility with the patient that this might be a spontaneous termination (miscarriage). We also ask her what she would like to do if the pregnancy is still viable. She asks if there is a way to determine who the father is. When asked why, she states that if the father is her most recent boyfriend, she would like to continue the pregnancy. If the father is the boyfriend from last month, she desires termination.

Fortunately (in my opinion), she had spontaneously terminated the pregnancy and the vaginal bleeding was the abortus being discharged.

Case 2) 13yo M presents to the clinic for routine physical examination. I initiate a discussion of sex with the child, asking him about his sexual orientation (girls) and whether he has a special girlfriend and what sorts of sexual activity he has engaged in. He states that he is not yet sexually active, but is considering it. I ask him if he knows about condoms, emergency contraception, and the risks and benefits of intercourse. He states that he does and then asks if it is possible to get a girl pregnant the first time has intercourse. I tell him that it is absolutely possible. His reaction is curious: he seems pleased. I inquire further and he states: "But if I don't get her pregnant, then I can't prove I had sex with her!"

Case 3) C.F. is a 16yo M with a medical history significant for morbid obesity (5'9" and >300 lbs), severe type II diabetes, severe hypercholesterolemia (high cholesterol) and severe hyperlipidemia) on top of developmental delay/mild mental retardation and a severely dysfunctional family. He has been admitted to the hospital multiple times for pancreatitis and has had stays in the hospital as long as 4 months. He presents to the clinic one day proudly proclaiming that he "got his girl pregnant."

On further investigation, the claim turns out to be false (this kid couldn't get laid in a whorehouse if he were carrying a fistful of C-notes).

Case 4) A 13yo M who I met at the beginning of residency. A very bright and articulate kid. He stated that he had a girlfriend and had initiated intercourse one month prior. He stated that he didn't mind using condoms, but he couldn't get them at school because his school was a Catholic institution, his parents hadn't discussed sex with him and he was uncomfortable approaching them, and he was unsure if he could get condoms in a store at age 13.

I counseled him that condoms were legal to purchase at any age and gave him some ammunition just in case anyone gave him a hard time about his purchase: "Just say 'They're for sale, aren't they?'" I told him he could come to clinic any time and simply ask any passing doctor for condoms and that he didn't have to give his name. I also provided him with a large bag (30) of condoms and lubricant. I explained that many people feel that condoms reduce the pleasurable sensation of sex and that liberal use of lubricant could reverse this effect (it's true and a number of studies have shown this). I also counseled him that he and his girlfriend could make confidential appointments with me at any time for STD testing and contraception services without parental consent or parental report.

Three months after his first visit, he presents to his clinic with his 14yo girlfriend. She desires birth control. I put her on Depo-Provera, a shot that is administered every 3 months. She returns to me for regular healthcare for the remainder of my residency (3 years). Eventually, we switch her birth control to Nuva-Ring and she discloses to her mother, with me in the room (as back-up) that she is sexually active. Mom is upset, but agrees to not take punitive action when I remind her that her daughter has handled her sexual activity in a mature manner by using due precautions.

8 months later, the boy, now 14, presents to clinic again with a new girlfriend. She desires birth control. I provide the same services and now I have yet another teenage girl on my regular panel of patients.

In fact, over the course of 3 years, the boy brought a total of 4 girls to me and got them all on birth control. Think of what I accomplished as a pediatrician. I prevented four possible teenage pregnancies, kept five kids under regular healthcare with proper screening for STI's and HIV, and all because I provided a safe place for them to go for confidential healthcare and told them that I would support their decisions about sexuality as long as they handled those decisions responsibly.

The boy is now 17. He and I remain in E-mail contact. This African-American boy from the Bronx is an A-B student at a math-science focus school. He will attend college in the fall and is considering SUNY Syracuse vs. staying in the city and going to a CUNY or SUNY Downstate. He's unsure of his career plans, but whatever he does, he'll do well. I'm no longer worried about him.

Good outcomes are not entirely under our control. Had the boy been an idiot like the first two kids, he would not have assumed responsibility for his own sexuality. Unfortunately, as Mark Twain pointed out, "Stupidity, when protected, breeds." He predated Darwin, I believe...

But it is under our control to provide quality, confidential reproductive care to teens so that those who AREN'T idiots have access to that care. This boy had made the decision to have sex. Nothing I could tell him was going to make him stop, any more than any of you would stop. But he and I formed a therapeutic alliance to allow him to continue to be sexually active while staying healthy and free of children so that he could focus on school and the business of growing up. In the process, he brought me four new trusting patients (the swath of women he'd cut through; he was a really good-looking kid and charming as a devil) who learned that doctors needn't necessarily be imperious authority figures in white coats.

Would I have been able to prevent this pregnancy? From the statements of this kid, he was one of the idiots who I can't help because they won't come for the help. But we can reach out to more kids by providing more education, making contraception more accessible, and helping them to make their decisions so that they won't get hurt, rather than trying to make their decisions for them.

And we can foster a culture of more involved parents who actually keep an eye on their kids... But as long as kids raise kids, we will not have that culture.
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:53 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):

*regains composure and continues on crusade to get every single menstruating teenage girl on birth control*

I assume at the same time you would be on a crusade to get condoms into every teenage boy's pocket....sex takes two....for most of us, anyway.
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:09 am

Does the UK have any statutory rape laws? The article I read said the police investigated and decided not to prosecute, sex crimes are usually serious. If the father of the child were 18, would the tone of this thread be different, would we be calling for him to be jailed and listed as a sex offender for life? What about her, she is older thna he is, why is she not charged as abusing a minor if such laws exist in the UK? There are 3 years between 15 and 18, male or female, does it make that much difference to us as it does to the law, by the way, is the age of maturity 18 in the UK?
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:15 am



Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 51):

I assume at the same time you would be on a crusade to get condoms into every teenage boy's pocket....sex takes two....for most of us, anyway.

Read my previous post... (reply 50)
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:19 am



Quoting Par13del (Reply 52):
Does the UK have any statutory rape laws? The article I read said the police investigated and decided not to prosecute, sex crimes are usually serious. If the father of the child were 18, would the tone of this thread be different, would we be calling for him to be jailed and listed as a sex offender for life? What about her, she is older than he is, why is she not charged as abusing a minor if such laws exist in the UK? There are 3 years between 15 and 18, male or female, does it make that much difference to us as it does to the law, by the way, is the age of maturity 18 in the UK?

Yes, we do. But one party has to be over 16 and one has to be under, I think. Obviously in this case, neither are. I think the only way you can be charged with statutory rape is if one is over 16 and one isn't, i'm not too sure.

And for the record, the age of consent here for both hetero and homo sex is 16.
 
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RE: Boy Becomes A Dad...At 13

Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:59 am



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 54):
Yes, we do. But one party has to be over 16 and one has to be under, I think. Obviously in this case, neither are. I think the only way you can be charged with statutory rape is if one is over 16 and one isn't, i'm not too sure.

Interesting, it certainely raises an interesting dilema if these two decide to stay together. One is 15 the other 12, three year difference, I assume that they are two young to get married, so when she turns 16 the relationship has to cease at least sexually at least until he attains the age of 16, or she will be charged with statutory rape. Now who are going to be the social service workers who are going to be checking up on mommy and daddy for 3 years or so.

No easy ways around this, the grand parents should probably legally adopt the kid and allows these two to complete their childhood.

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