|Quoting Galapagapop (Reply 29):|
There will never been purpose built taxi that can even come close to the reliability and ruggedness of Checker Marathon. A new build cab will be much more complex than an old Checker, which is how it was easy on maintenance. If only they were still made today......
IIRC, it was the CAFE laws and its associated fines and costs that ultimately lead to Checker's demise. For those that may not know, like it or not CAFE laws have always been applied to ANY mass-produced vehicle over a certain number of units. So even though Checker's clientelle in its final years was nearly 100% commercial/fleet/taxi (as opposed to retail), it was still
subject to CAFE laws and related fines or associated gas-guzzler taxes. If large cabs are the only vehicles in one's fleet, those penalty costs can get expensive over time.
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Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 39):
But the cabbies won't let you sit on the front seat in the US, will they? We're talking in fact about a 3-pax + driver vehicle
Not necessarily. I've sat shotgun in an NYC Taxi before as well as a few other cities.
That all depends on either the taxi driver or the individual taxi company's policy.
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Ford 4.6 liter V8 is probably the most fuel efficient V8 gas engine on the market.
What is the point of a V8 in a cab? "Burning rubber" going from one red light to another, keeping yourself warm sitting in front of a airport terminal...???
Do keep in mind that many taxi vehicles are larger vehicles that have associated heavier curb weights than most passenger cars out there. Even some of the minivans and small SUVs (both domestic AND
IMPORT) that are now being used as cabs in the U.S. have at least a 3500 lb curb weight.
The larger engine is necessary to move the vehicle especially if it's loaded with passengers AND
|Quoting StasisLAX (Thread starter):|
The rear-wheel drive Standard Taxi will be powered by GM’s 4.3-liter V6 that will be “calibrated to taxi-duty cycle” and weighs in at an SUV-like 4,500lbs
This thing's actually about 500 to 600 hundred lbs. HEAVIER than the current Crown Vic.
|Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 2):|
Quoting StasisLAX (Thread starter):
The rear-wheel drive Standard Taxi will be powered by GM’s 4.3-liter V6 that will be “calibrated to taxi-duty cycle” and weighs in at an SUV-like 4,500lbs.
Why the hell would a city-taxi need to be so heavy and have a V6 which guzzles gas? Can't they build something smaller? Looks really ugly also.
See my above-comment. One needs to keep in mind, that there have been many occasions where a 'fare' includes transporting SEVERAL passengers AND
their LUGGAGE to their destination as opposed to just one individual. Similar to many airlines out there, some cab companies may have several vehicle types in their fleet depending on market needs; the downside to this is associated operating costs. One reason WHY taxi companies usually stick w/one vehicle type or model (like what WN
does w/their 737s) is due the associated lower costs and fleet simplicity. A large sedan like a Crown Vic usually allows a cab companies to accomodate most passengers' needs while staying with one common vehicle type. In short, KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid).
|Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):|
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 9):
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 8):
Diesel engines are virtually banned for cab use in NY City after terrible issues with them in cabs back in the 1980's.
That's a shame because the diesel engines of the 80s and now are like night and day.
Here they using those gas/diesel conversion Chevrolet Caprice as a taxi?
Which models did they use in the 1980s?
If that was the case, that is a terrible example of a diesel engine.
True, but other than Audi (?), Mercedes, VW
and Pugeuot (sp.), who else was importing diesel cars in the states back in the 1980s? My guess would be that any diesel Caprice cabs NYC had back in the 80s were probably new builds as opposed to converted models. Did any such converted models actually exist? IIRC, most diesels were probably converted BACK to gasoline models.
|Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):|
Glad to hear they are thinking of ways to come up with a new and very useful vehicle and keep people employed. This is a smart move considering the Ford Panther platform will sadly go out of production in 2010.
The only issue I presently see is, like the Checker, the future CAFE increases could be this vehicle's undoing... unless there's diesel and hybrid version's available.
IIRC, there's been a CNG
version of the Crown Vic taxi available for years.
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