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USA 1994 Soccer Cup - Your Memories Of Gloryland?

Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:04 pm

I recently came across this video from 1994 and it made me remember one of the best summers in my life. Being in 6th grade then, the 1994 Soccer World Cup was the first time I really experienced and appreciated a Soccer world Cup, watched all the games, traded cards with school mates and so on.

Watching this video and especially listening to the theme song makes me shiver, even 15 years later. Gee has it been that long?

Funny how the 1994 World Cup didn't help a lot to promote soccer in the USA. Before and after, nobody really cares about it...  Smile
(Things are very different in women's soccer though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47wEiz-378o

So what are your memories of that glorious summer of 1994?

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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:15 pm

Ahh, nostalgia! As a five years old in 1994 (going for six), after 15 yrs I still can remember some final match sequences.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Soccer World Cup

I prefer calling it Football. LOL Big grin

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Funny how the 1994 World Cup didn't help a lot to promote soccer in the USA. Before and after, nobody really cares about it...  

Yeah... too bad.

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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:21 pm

I went to the Italy-Bulgaria semi. OMG next to when Italy won in 06' def one of the best times. Baggio scored some awesome goals.

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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:23 pm

For some reason this song doesnot ring a bell. Isn't this the tournament when Iran faced the US after a long time?? (Of course Iran won) or was it the next one??

I have great memories from that time, I loved football even though I didn't know much about it. I loved the theme that used to be played between the halves. The matches were late at night (Pakistan time), used to have school the next day (I too was in 5th or 6th grade at the time). The sneaking into the living room and watching the match with very low volume when permission was not granted, I felt soooo part of that atmosphere the game creates. In that respect those two world cups were the greatest of my childhood. Then things went a little crazy and the next world cup I was able to get time for was the 2002 tournament.

Boy was I in for a disappointment, I seriously thought I have grownup and those past feelings were nothing more but a child's excitement. It was the worst world cup ever.

Then I whole-heatedly participated in-fact cursed myself for not started the thread 'Thank You Germany' right after the 2006 world cup, because it came during probably the best year of my life and top of it it brought back the memories and the excitement of 90s in a way I did not expect. I didn't mention it to anyone since I thought it must only have been me, but now I think I might not have been the only one.

Anyway those were good days. Between those two world cups, names like Roberto Baggio, Romario, Emmanuel Petit, Azizi, still send chills down my spine.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Gee has it been that long?

It has, we are old old men now.
 
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Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Funny how the 1994 World Cup didn't help a lot to promote soccer in the USA. Before and after, nobody really cares about it...  

I wouldn't say that. MLS was created to satisfy FIFAs requirement that we form a top league within a couple of years of hosting the World Cup. If the World Cup hadn't been awarded to the United States, we probably still would not have a league anywhere near as prominent as MLS (yes, it can get more obscure than MLS).

After some tough years, MLS is now looking much stronger and expanding. Seattle joined this season, Philadelphia will join next year, and Portland and Vancouver will be added in 2011. The league is talking of further expansion in the future too.

On the hosting front, the US Soccer Federation is applying to host either the 2018 or 2022 World Cup. It will get one of the two. The 1994 event remains to this day the best attended World Cup, and FIFA loves money so they will send either 2018 or 2022 this direction.
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:51 pm

I was 15 and France was not participating. It's not really enjoyable to watch when your country is not participating. I have better memories of 1998, first because it was in France and second because we won!  Wink
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:59 pm



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 4):
The 1994 event remains to this day the best attended World Cup

Interesting bit of trivia that I'm glad someone picked up on. Of course, it helps when all of the matches were scheduled in stadiums with 60,000+ seating capacity.

I was lucky enough to go to a game--saw Brazil-Netherlands at the Cotton Bowl. I was only 8, but it was a crazy (fun) experience. I'd do it again, even though that has so far been the only time that I have seen a professional soccer match.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:34 pm



Quoting Us330 (Reply 6):
Interesting bit of trivia that I'm glad someone picked up on. Of course, it helps when all of the matches were scheduled in stadiums with 60,000+ seating capacity.

That's why the US was considered to be the backup if South Africa couldn't be ready for next year's event. We've build enough 45,000+ stadiums since 1994 to host the World Cup without using a single stadium from that event.
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:45 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Baggio scored some awesome goals.

I'm pretty sure he also missed a sitter of a penalty in the final against Brazil!  Wink The ball ended up in about Row 80! Proper spooned shot! lol

I remember that World Cup, i was in the USA for a month in April/May 1994 and they were mad promoting it. I have various Footix Mascot stuffed toys from the trip. Lol. I was 9 at the time.

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Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:21 am



Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 8):
I'm pretty sure he also missed a sitter of a penalty in the final against Brazil! Wink The ball ended up in about Row 80! Proper spooned shot! lol

The best part is that he also missed a PK in a shootout against France four years later... Big grin
I never liked Baggio...

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 3):
Isn't this the tournament when Iran faced the US after a long time?? (Of course Iran won) or was it the next one??

That was the next one in 1998.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 4):

Spot on, man...

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
So what are your memories of that glorious summer of 1994?

I still lived in Brazil then and I was in 7th grade, so it was the first major sporting event I really remember. It was a tough year for Brazil: the death of Ayrton Senna a few months earlier was still fresh in people's minds and our entire monetary system was getting a complete overhaul that no one knew what would really happen after that.

No one had faith in Parreira's defensive ways and completely eschewing the flair that Brazilian football was always known for. The whole country held their breath when the U.S. played one of their best games of that tournament and then got eliminated on a late goal, the next game against the Netherlands where there was 5 minutes of extra time (longest 5 minutes of my life until then...) that semi-final against Sweden (Romario scoring on a header over giant Kenneth Andersson) and of course, that final...

Good times, I get a little misty-eyed thinking about it...

2002 was also good for us of course, but I think there wasn't nearly as much drama behind that Cup for the Brazilians and it was kind of expected that we'd win.

And as for 1998...what 1998? That didn't happen.  Wink
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:23 am



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 5):
I was 15 and France was not participating.

I think you mean they didn't qualify didn't you?  biggrin 

Quoting RGElectra80 (Reply 9):
And as for 1998...what 1998? That didn't happen.

If your from Brazil you sure think that year didn't happen!
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:24 am



Quoting RGElectra80 (Reply 9):
That was the next one in 1998.

Thanks, I wasn't sure either way. But those two world cups were great for me, from the perspective of a neutral.

Quoting RGElectra80 (Reply 9):
And as for 1998...what 1998? That didn't happen. Wink

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Quoting RGElectra80 (Reply 9):
And as for 1998...what 1998? That didn't happen.  

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I'll be happy to forget that World Cup too!

My best memories of the 1994 World Cup are the win against Columbia. The own goal, the crazy hair of Carlos Valderrama, the delightfully tacky US jerseys. You know the ones that weren't quite dark enough blue and wound up looking like denim with big white stars. That was a fun World Cup.
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
I think you mean they didn't qualify didn't you?

Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry for my bad English.

We did not qualify in 1990 and 1994. An struggling to qualify for 2010  Yeah sure
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I love the official logo. So simple yet extremely stylish.



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Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:54 am

Me and 3 other buddies drove from Toronto to Chicago for the opening match. I remember Germany winning 1-0 and Oprah breaking a leg during the opening ceremonies.

BUT!!, the best was going to watch the Germans train just north of Toronto just before the tournament started. The security was incredibly low. I was behind the training nets fetching balls for the German national team!!. I was throwing balls to Koepke, kahn, klinsman, Lothar....and the rest, i then i got their autographs and shock their hands, what a great experience!!
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:13 am

I recall watching the second round match Germany vs Belgium with a few classmates during our fieldtrip to Sylt. It was a real party, we were still only fifth graders, but during the match, it was like being with friends at someone's apartment or a bar, minus the beer.
 
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:09 am

I remember going by Giant's Stadium in New Jersey (on the bus to go to work in NY City) when 2 of the games were played there. It was kind of cool to have one of the world's greatest sporting events take place here. I remember watching the final game for the Cup on TV.
 
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:50 am

Sure, Sweden overpreformed, Henrik Larsson played yesterday against Portugal and also played 15 years ago, seem like a timewarp.
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:44 am

I went to my first professional soccer game at MLK to watch Spain v. Switzerland during that world cup and it was awesome. Fond memories.
 
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:44 am

I remember to watch the Italy vs. Spain match in quarter finals, especially when Tassotti broke the nose of Luis Enrique Big grin

I also remember when Roberto Baggio missed the penalty and the eventual win of Brazil.

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Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:01 am

I remember it well from working inside the terminals at LAX at the time, and the mess it created.

From all the added last minute charter flight activity, to all the noisy crowds chanting with flags etc.
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:40 pm



Quoting Rleiro (Reply 20):
I remember to watch the Italy vs. Spain

You remind me such a great players such as two GK, Pagliuca and Zubizarreta, then Baggio, Albertini and Luis Enrique.

Here's short video of that match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rAu9HjQHDY

IIRC, the top scorer was Stoichkov, Bulgarian national player.

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Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:32 pm

I went to Argentina vs. Bulgaria in Dallas, the day after the whole Maradona drug scandal was revealed. A little disappointed I didn't get to see him play, but still one of the most exciting events I've been to. The energy and enthusiasm was awesome.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 12):
delightfully tacky US jerseys. You know the ones that weren't quite dark enough blue and wound up looking like denim with big white stars. That was a fun World Cup.

And don't forget the white jerseys with the red stripes!
 
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:42 pm



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 13):
We did not qualify in 1990 and 1994. An struggling to qualify for 2010

Actually word around the campfire was I think France was knocked out of qualifying for the 04' Cup by Bulgaria. Then in the semi versus Italia there was a French ref and there was some questionable calls in the second half. Hristo Stoichkov berated the ref late in the game with a bunch of expletives. Good times.



Quoting Rleiro (Reply 20):
I remember to watch the Italy vs. Spain match in quarter finals, especially when Tassotti broke the nose of Luis Enrique

Awesome game, the breakaway goal was awesome.

Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 22):
You remind me such a great players such as two GK, Pagliuca and Zubizarreta, then Baggio, Albertini and Luis Enrique.

Costucurta was the best player on that team. He saved their ass with this defense many a time.

Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 22):
IIRC, the top scorer was Stoichkov, Bulgarian national player.

Yep he got the Golden Boot
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What about football (soccer) in the U.S.? Is becoming more popular or it's just like before?
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Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 25):
Is becoming more popular or it's just like before

I think it's becoming more popular. Of course, "more popular" is relative simply because it will never dethrone the big two--football and baseball, and probably not basketball, in the U.S., but when you look at what the state of soccer in the U.S. compared to what it is in 2009, and there is a definite improvement.

If you look at the history of the MLS, it set itself up right for success, and has only really made a couple of mistakes in its short history (most notably, the ill-fated florida expansion). It imposed a strict salary cap, and has actually gotten a national tv contract with ESPN. Not only that, but rather than have these teams play at huge football stadiums, with half the seats empty, more and more soccer specific stadiums are being built across the country, ones that have a seating capacity between 20-30,000, and also serve as outdoor concert venues.

There will always be a segment of the populace that will hate it because it is soccer, as well as never go to a game because it will probably always be a second-tier league on the international level (compared to the Premiership, La Liga, the Bundesliga, etc.), but it has its cult following, and if they price the tickets well, could target the same niche that allows minor league baseball to be so successful--family friendly, enjoyable entertainment at movie theater-like prices.
 
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:58 pm

I remember going to the Saudia Arabia vs Greece match at Foxboro Stadium here in MA

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Quoting Us330 (Reply 26):
I think it's becoming more popular.

Especially with the very young kids aged 7-15. I'd bet more kids that age are involved in parks and rec soccer than baseball or basketball.

One thing that is holding it back at the middle school/highschool level is the fact that there aren't a lot of teams in every city so travel is a must and that's hard for people to find time to do and afford.
 
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Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 28):
Especially with the very young kids aged 7-15. I'd bet more kids that age are involved in parks and rec soccer than baseball or basketball.

One thing that is holding it back at the middle school/highschool level is the fact that there aren't a lot of teams in every city so travel is a must and that's hard for people to find time to do and afford.

It's always been more popular with younger kids, at least as long as I've been alive (born in 85). Soccer at the local YMCA started at 4 years old, t-ball at 5, basketball at 8, and football at 9/10.
The problem has always been trying to translate that rec league popularity into ticket sales, merchandise revenue, and tv ratings for american professional teams.

Disagree about the travel/lack of teams in every city aspect. While it might be less popular in rural areas, any city or suburban high school/middle school with a football team also has a soccer team.

Maybe at the elite youth level more travel is required, but at the scholastic level there certainly isn't.
 
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Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:57 am



Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
So what are your memories of that glorious summer of 1994?

I do remember this World Cup quite well. I was still living in Florida, and a bunch of families got together at our friend's house and watched the game out by the pool. We had a bunch of food, and an American flag cake (pound cake, whipped cream, blueberries and strawberries). I recall the game being very close and it came down to the very end. Was it USA vs. Brazil?
 
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I remember being on vacation in Orlando during Spring Break 1994 and they were promoting the World Cup like crazy, the airport (MCO) had special displays at the entrances along the roadways and all over the place.
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Quoting RGElectra80 (Reply 9):
the next game against the Netherlands where there was 5 minutes of extra time (longest 5 minutes of my life until then...)

Most intense soccer moments I've ever watched. . .I thought I was gonna have heart attack, and I was in elementary school!!

Good times. The moment I got hooked on World Cups.
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My best memory of it, is how the Danish team failed to qualify. It all came down to a single match against Spain in the fall of 1993, where the spanish goal keeper must have spent the better part of a week praying for the Virgin Mary's aid. Oh, and a blind referee.

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I watched at lot of the World Cup games in 1994. I was working as a bar tender (19th hole) at Meadowbrook Country Club, in Suburban St. Louis, Missouri. I never watched soccer before and I really enjoyed it. A lot of club patrons enjoyed watching it too.

One of my favorite Pinball games of all time is the 1994 World Cup Soccer game. I don't remember who made it, but it was cool. It had a dog kicking a soccer ball on the score panel. Did anyone else play that game?
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Quoting CPH-R (Reply 33):
My best memory of it, is how the Danish team failed to qualify.

England too  Sad Everyone here was supporting Ireland - who#d have thought it?!

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Quoting Signol (Reply 35):
England too

I've always found it somewhat peculiar that England seem to have a final round complex. Either you don't make it there in the first place, or you tend to no get very far (though I admit that you beat us soundly in 2002  Wink ).
 
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Quoting CPH-R (Reply 33):
My best memory of it, is how the Danish team failed to qualify. It all came down to a single match against Spain in the fall of 1993, where the spanish goal keeper must have spent the better part of a week praying for the Virgin Mary's aid. Oh, and a blind referee.

And I remember like yesterday how France failed to qualify as well! Here is the story:

On October 13th, 1993, we lose against a poor side: Israel. 2-3, at home. If we had won this match, we were qualified. But no biggie, there is still one match to go against Bulgaria. At home as well. To qualify, we need one point. 1point!! A draw at home. It's doable.

November 17, 1993. France - Bulgaria at the Parc des Princes in Paris. Eric "the king" Cantona scores. 1-0 to France. So far so good. But soon after, Stoichkov (that I cannot hate because he played for Barcelona, my favourite team) scores. 1-1, but we're still qualified.

90th minute. David Ginola has the ball. Instead of keeping it and play with the clock, he crosses. He shoots too strong, the ball flies over the box, Bulgarian players get it back. They rush through the pitch, Kostadinov gets the ball, avoids Laurent Blanc's tackle, shoots and crucifies France. Final score: 1-2.

The video of the last goal here: http://ma-tvideo.france3.fr/video/iLyROoaftDyn.html

National disaster in France. Players and supporters were deeply affected. Ginola and other players were insulted, newspapers were tough on the coach tactics. "We are the biggest losers"; "France fails for the 2nd time", blah blah blah.

4 years later, we won our first (and still our only) World Cup. At home. Followed by a Euro, 2 years later. But it never healed this unbelievable defeat against Bulgaria.

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Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 37):

Ow, the dreaded 2ML (2 minutes left) struck again. I know the pain all to well, from the 90/91 UEFA Cup season. My team, Brøndby IF, had taken out Eintracht Frankfurt, Ferencváros, Bayer Leverkusen & Torpedo Moscow and were facing AS Roma in the semi-final.

This was a huge leap forward for Danish clubfootball, the first time ever that a Danish club had gone so far in an international tournament. After 0-0 at home in Copenhagen, the score was tied at 1-1 in Rome until the 88th minute, when the little bastard Rudi Völler scored on a rebound and threw us out.
 
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Quoting CPH-R (Reply 38):
This was a huge leap forward for Danish clubfootball

Confirmed in 1992 by your victory at the Euro!
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Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 39):
Confirmed in 1992 by your victory at the Euro!

IIRC most of the squad at Euro 1992 were playing in Brøndby during the 90/91 season. The following season was disastrous, as an investment strategy that went badly wrong threatened to bankrupt the club and as a result the club sold off a lot of the players from the 90/91 season.
 
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These were my absolute most memorable football memories! For obvious reasons  Smile. Bulgaria has never gotten so far in world cup until then and it was absolutely amazing. We made it to the semifinals eliminating huge favorites such as Argentina, Mexico and Germany. We could've gotten Italy in the semifinal but that penalty kick given to the Italians was pure bull****  Angry . To this day I'm pissed about it.

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 8):
I'm pretty sure he also missed a sitter of a penalty in the final against Brazil! Wink The ball ended up in about Row 80! Proper spooned shot! lol

Oh if only Italy had missed that penalty against us in the semifinal...

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 24):
Actually word around the campfire was I think France was knocked out of qualifying for the 04' Cup by Bulgaria. Then in the semi versus Italia there was a French ref and there was some questionable calls in the second half. Hristo Stoichkov berated the ref late in the game with a bunch of expletives. Good times.

Like someone said, we scored at the absolute last second. I remember watching it and afterwards the city(Sofia) went absolutely nuts! Crowds, yelling, drinking, fireworks, it was madness.

This is what Sofia looked like after we beat Germany. Scroll to about 1:13 into the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIlbHRveyZA

What sucked was that due to the time difference between Bulgaria and the US all the bombs would go off at like 3AM waking people up  Smile

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