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Didier Drogba Should Be Fired. Discuss.

Thu May 07, 2009 10:38 am

Dider Drogba's explicit rant in front of live television cameras was inexcusable.

A number of decisions did go against Chelsea in yesterday's match. Important ones, at that. However Drogba's display shamed him, the club, and to a lesser, but still important extent, the sponsors and manufactures.

In any other profession, an employee in full uniform swearing and being abusive on live television would be dismissed, citing Gross Misconduct.

Drogba should not be treated any differently.

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Thu May 07, 2009 10:55 am

I don't like Didier Drogba. He is always looking for the foul, always trying to fool the ref, and when things don't go the way he wants, he always have a poor behaviour.

I know that some penalties should have been awarded to Chelsea. But mistakes happened in the past and will happen again in the future. I understand Chelsea's frustration, but they should have killed the match before, especially when Drogba had the 2-0 opportunity.

I am a huge Barça fan, so I will not say if they deserve to go through or not (I will probably be not objective). What I can say is that the behaviour of some Chelsea players yesterday are not acceptable.
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Thu May 07, 2009 11:09 am

I am no Chelsea fan, but the ref was indeed a disgrace. Yes mistakes happen, but I don't think we should just shrug our shoulders and tolerate them, especially when the stakes are so high. Did Drogba go over the top? Of course, and his behaviour wasn't acceptable, but it was understandable to a large extent, and football is not like 'any other profession'.
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Thu May 07, 2009 11:17 am



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
football is not like 'any other profession'.

No, it seems to have a much higher percentage of a***holes than most.

Not exactly something the kids need to be looking up.
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Thu May 07, 2009 11:31 am



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 1):
I don't like Didier Drogba.

I've met him, and he's a pleasant guy. But his actions yesterday cannot be excused just because he is, off the feild, not that bad.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
Yes mistakes happen, but I don't think we should just shrug our shoulders and tolerate them, especially when the stakes are so high.

Agreed. But take the example of Darren Fletcher at Man Utd. Dream shattered not being able to play in the final after an erroneous sending off, but he walked off in a professional, dignified manner. If anything, enhancing his own reputation.

Then you can look at Arshavin the other day - being "fouled" but telling the ref that actually, it wasn't a penalty. That was a highly respectable thing to do, proving that you can be a good player and an honest player at the same time.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
football is not like 'any other profession'.

Agreed again, in some ways. But at the same time, he is a man, employed by a company, to represent them and to do a job.

Quoting Offloaded (Reply 3):
Not exactly something the kids need to be looking up.

Definitely not.

I've just read that John Terry "stands by Drogba's actions" which concerns me a little as JT has worked so hard and done so well to overcome his own reputation after his problems a few years ago.
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 12:55 pm



Quoting Swiftski (Reply 4):
I've met him, and he's a pleasant guy

I'm sure he is, although I never met him in person. I should have precised that I don't like him as a football player.
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Thu May 07, 2009 1:06 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 2):
but the ref was indeed a disgrace. Yes mistakes happen, but I don't think we should just shrug our shoulders and tolerate them, especially when the stakes are so high

I agree. The Ref did not make some calls in the box at the end and I can see why the whole team wsa really mad. The stakes are very high and I do not blame Drogba at all. To me the ref should never work a UEFA game again. He lost all control of that game at the end. Even ballack chased him down the field grabbing and bumping him after ballack wanted a handball called. It was a devastating way to lose and add in the refs bad decision making an it was a recipe for some fiery word's.

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Quoting Swiftski (Reply 4):
But take the example of Darren Fletcher at Man Utd. Dream shattered not being able to play in the final after an erroneous sending off, but he walked off in a professional, dignified manner

It's one thing having a harsh decision go against you when you're 3-1 up and clearly going into the final. It's quite another when two or three harsh decisions directly put you out of the tournament.
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Thu May 07, 2009 2:04 pm



Quoting Windy95 (Reply 6):
To me the ref should never work a UEFA game again.

Why? He did exactly what UEFA expected of him. Didn't Platini complain recently about the dominance of English teams in the game? Well, there is your result - an asston of penalties not given and Barça scoring 6 minutes past regular time to make it to the final.

I think the problem here is that in some way you are confusing UEFA with a reputable organization, which it is not in the slightest. I hope Man Utd tears Barça a new one in the final.
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Thu May 07, 2009 2:12 pm



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 8):
Barça scoring 6 minutes past regular time to make it to the final.

Why not 10 minutes past regular time, while you're at it?

Barça scored on minute 93, which was 1 minute before the end of added time. There's nothing wrong here.
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Thu May 07, 2009 2:21 pm



Quoting Swiftski (Thread starter):

I wouldn't fire him, but I wouldn't play him in upcoming matches. His flopping and ranting continued the entire match. Rolling around on the field like a little kid having a tantrum was laughable. I'm glad Barca is going ahead and not Chelsea.
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 3:22 pm



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 8):
Why? He did exactly what UEFA expected of him

I guess he was so confident that Barça would score that sending off Abidal for no reason wouldn't matter, right?

And the poor refeereing on the 1st leg was just to deceive the public, of course.

Tinfoil hats anyone?
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 3:56 pm



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 8):
I hope Man Utd tears Barça a new one in the final.

Same here, hopefully they beat them by at least 4 goals.  Smile


I don't like Drogba either as a player, he's kind of arrogant at times but what he did was fine by me, especially with all the crap that the refs pulled in the last few minutes. EPL as a league should protest what happened there and threaten to withdraw from European competitions for a year if something doesn't get done.
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Thu May 07, 2009 4:02 pm



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 12):
EPL as a league should protest what happened there and threaten to withdraw from European competitions for a year if something doesn't get done.

Good! Let's do it. At least we will have something more interesting than a repetition of the Premier League matches at a European level.
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Thu May 07, 2009 4:36 pm

The issue isn't about whether Drogba is a nice guy off the field but his behaviour last night which by any standard was appalling.

Of course the referee was awful and denied at minimum two blatant penalties, but I just cannot shake the vivid irony of Drogba, a player who I simply cannot stand, screaming of injustice.This from a man who could not care less what injustice his actions cause opposing teams.

Michael Ballack will probably be in hot water as well but their is little doubt Chelsea received the rough end of the stick last night.
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Thu May 07, 2009 4:43 pm

If the violent and insane jackass that is Materazzi never got banned from playing any game, what makes you thing Drogba is going to get anything from just swearing infront of the cameras?
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 4:45 pm

I don't think he should be fired, perhaps just a 3 match ban, but yes he annoys me but he is a very good player.

Lets hope Moyes will sign him(!)

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Thu May 07, 2009 5:40 pm

I was at the ground last night and let me tell you that referee deserves all of the stick that he gets. Never in my life have I seen such a terrible run of decisions going against a team, and these weren't questionable decisions they were obvious penalties. I agree with those of you that think that he shouldn't be used again, however I also believe that in order to avoid this kind of thing again, especially in a CL semi-final. There must be some change so that a referee that regularly officiates matches in the Norwegian league, which is totally inferior to other major European leagues, should not be refereeing such important games. Why can't UEFA bring in the best from Italy, Germany or France to officiate these games? Surely the stakes are high.

Didier is a great guy. I had a good little chat to him on Sunday night when I went out with quite a few members of the Chelsea team. Of course he throws his weight around and goes down very easily, but this is where football is. It's up to the referee to decide when it's a genuine foul or if it's a dive and to punish accordingly. Drogba is just doing what he has to to win the games, what else can he do?

There's no wonder Guus feels there is something more to this! Watching the replays today just confirms how blatant these handballs and fouls are. He must have been getting flash-bacs of Italy vs Australia in 2006!
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:11 pm



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 8):
Why? He did exactly what UEFA expected of him. Didn't Platini complain recently about the dominance of English teams in the game? Well, there is your result - an asston of penalties not given and Barça scoring 6 minutes past regular time to make it to the final.



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9):
Why not 10 minutes past regular time, while you're at it?

Barça scored on minute 93, which was 1 minute before the end of added time. There's nothing wrong here

Well if the penalites had been given, the score would have been 2 or maybe 3 to 0 by the time Barca scored, the other point would be, if they were down by 3 goals, would they have been playing that hard during stoppage time, we will never know.

Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 14):
Of course the referee was awful and denied at minimum two blatant penalties, but I just cannot shake the vivid irony of Drogba, a player who I simply cannot stand, screaming of injustice.This from a man who could not care less what injustice his actions cause opposing teams.

The players action was unacceptable, some how we seem to hold them to a higher standard than the officials, what exactly is the penalty for this official and is someone looking at the tapes of the game to review his performance. The integrity of the game demands that the official be respected by all sides involved, but the counter point to that is that when incompetence is displayed, a price must be paid, who ever is at fault.

Not a Chelsea fan, but they are also responsible for this defeat, a one goal advantage is not enough when a tie knocks you out, they should have been more aggressive, however, maybe the ref prevented them from doing so??????

We need a replay with a neutral or at least a competent ref, imagine the agony if Barca actually wins the final in a couple weeks time?
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:19 pm

That isn't grounds for termination in sports. Ever hear of Bobby Knight? Or Ozzie Guillen?
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:21 pm

You have to look at it from the players side, while Drogba's behaviour was way over the top,
it really is understandable, it's not as if there was isolated penalty claim, there were several.
Football is a high pressure, emotional game, and sometimes it's hard to control your
feelings. The Norwegian referee though, produced one of the most shocking performances
from a sporting official i've ever seen. When you have Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal fans
showing great sympathy for Chelsea, you know they've been done up. As for Drog being
"sacked", he'll get a hefty fine and banned for a few games.
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:25 pm



Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 20):
When you have Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal fans
showing great sympathy for Chelsea, you know they've been done up

Either that or the pubs were all closed  Smile
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:25 pm



Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 17):
let me tell you that referee deserves all of the stick that he gets

Ahhhh, sour grapes is it? Would you like some cheese with your whine  biggrin 
The bottom line is NO ref deserves to be abused the way he was and the ironic thing is its always the same players and the same teams who are the culprits.

Arsenal, Chelsea & Man Utd every time, they're all scum and they deserve all the punishment handed down to them, you treat a ref with respect and if you dont like his decisions then you appeal or remonstrate in a professional, orderly and respectful way! END OF!

I hope they ban Drogba & Ballack & Terry from all european club matches for a long time. Its obvious they felt hard done by possibly because they just realised it was probably their last chance of realistically winning the European cup - but they looked stupid, foolish and pathetic in their actions last night. Once again Terry should be ashamed of himself for his abuse of the ref in the tunnel, he thinks he'll get away with it by doing behind the cameras but hopefully the ref will report the lot of them!

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Thu May 07, 2009 6:43 pm

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 20):
You have to look at it from the players side, while Drogba's behaviour was way over the top,
it really is understandable, it's not as if there was isolated penalty claim, there were several.

  

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 8):
Why? He did exactly what UEFA expected of him. Didn't Platini complain recently about the dominance of English teams in the game?

I don't think there was any conspiracy. Just gross incompetence. When the two options are incompetence and conspiracy, I'll place my bets on incompetence every time.

Quoting Swiftski (Thread starter):
In any other profession, an employee in full uniform swearing and being abusive on live television would be dismissed, citing Gross Misconduct.

As you said "in any other profession". There's a long history in sports, at least in the United States, of athletes and coaches letting loose emotional tirades, often involving profanity. They are rarely punished. Maybe it's different across the pond, but what Drogba did barely registers on my radar.

I think he was expressing the emotions everyone at Chelsea Football Club felt at the time. Every player in that locker room wants redemption for last years final, and they would have that opportunity if not for horrible officiating.

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Thu May 07, 2009 6:47 pm

This should not just be about this one player.
After all, he is just one of a small army of absurdly over-paid, very over-induldged, all too often seemingly rather unpleasant people.
Just the other day, the football playing member of a family of scumbags, one Joey Barton was in 'action' again.
That he is allowed to play at all for a major club, with his history, is symptomatic of a very deep malaise.

Of course his team felt robbed, really though, is it the first time that a series of it seems dubious refereeing decisions has gone against a team, any team, in an important match?
In life we call it 'taking the rough with the smooth', doubtless his club have had breaks from decisions that favored them.

But the idea of not getting all you want, all of the time, is an alien concept to these people.
Hence the reactions and not just from Drogba in this game, it's become embedded.
It has dribbled down as far as kids teams being disrupted by the pushy parents in the crowd.
Who would be a ref there now?
Having some suburban psychos insulting you, threatening you and worse.

Maybe the whole malaise is deeper still, after all, his team are merely the plaything of a Russian with a dubious history, which in time, he'll drop either through not meeting an impossible standard of results and trophies, or he'll just get bored with them.
Not that Chelsea are unique in this of course.

Yes he should be sacked, probably should be charged too with threatening behavior.
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 6:54 pm



Quoting Par13del (Reply 18):
The players action was unacceptable, some how we seem to hold them to a higher standard than the officials, what exactly is the penalty for this official and is someone looking at the tapes of the game to review his performance.

We do hold players to a higher standard. Its the same in probably any sport you care to mention. Rightly or wrongly thats just the way it is, from being kids idols, to the feigning of injuries to the astronomical sums the even average premiership players receive the spotlight is on them.

I don't disagree with your point about the price that officials should be paying for turning in a performance like we witnessed last night. And in the case of last nights referee its not as if he didn't have previous for controversal officiating.

I beleive that UEFA has a referee assessor at every game, but don't hold your breath for anything positive from Platini's platoon.
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Thu May 07, 2009 7:04 pm

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 23):
I don't think there was any conspiracy. Just gross incompetence.

Indeed. If it was a conspiracy, he wouldn't have sent off a Barca player. That decision was just as incompetent as his non-awarding of penalties.


Yes, I'm sure UEFA is delighted they don't have another "all English" final on their hands, but to suggest that they'd do anything to ensure it didn't happen is laughable.


UEFA is sometimes their own worst enemy. Why on Earth appoint anyone less then top refs for the big, high-pressure games? Why not allow reviews of yellow and red cards? It defies logic that a player should miss potentially the biggest game of their professional career because of an incorrect decision by an official.

I understand the frustrations of the Chelsea players - I was massively frustrated and I'm not even a Chelsea supporter. But in no way does that excuse the behaviour of the players on and off the pitch. Terry, Ballack and Drogba will be incredibly lucky if they don't receive stiff penalties for their actions. Then again, the ref was so incompetent he may not even report it!   

I would suggest that Drogba takes a good look at himself first - his constant diving and feigning of injury can easily persuade refs not to award penalties when he's involved. He might also want to consider, in the cold light of day, that if he hadn't missed the best chance of the game, the non-awarding of penalties would have been a moot discussion point and Chelsea would be playing in the final.

It's interesting that in rugby, a hugely more physical game, the match officials command a respect that most football referees can only dream of.

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Thu May 07, 2009 7:55 pm



Quoting Virgin744 (Reply 22):
I hope they ban Drogba & Ballack & Terry from all european club matches for a long time.

On the bright side, this could allow us to search for a new captain in the German national team.  Wink
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 8:33 pm

Oi Swiftski... Shut ya mouth you rugby playing fool! You don't even like football!
Fire Didier Drogba? For what? Sticking up for his team and what he believes (and half the population of the world who don't even support Chelsea) witnessed at the hands of that complete t*at of a ref last night?
In my eyes (and yes I am a dedicated Chelsea fan) he did what came natuarally and was very angry with the ref for not giving the missed penalties. Fair play to him for getting angry.
You are telling me that you are offended by a swear word live on TV? Please...

It was a f*cking disgrace and I am glad he vented his frustration.

He apologised anyway so lets get over it and see what the outcome is.
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Thu May 07, 2009 8:58 pm



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 26):
Indeed. If it was a conspiracy, he wouldn't have sent off a Barca player. That decision was just as incompetent as his non-awarding of penalties.

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I most matches that red card would have been the talking point for it's obvious lack of any contact. It's remarkable that there are so many other obviously bad calls that the red card has been almost forgotten. Also a real shame that Abidal will miss the final for such a disgraceful call.
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Thu May 07, 2009 9:43 pm



Quoting Swiftski (Reply 4):
take the example of Darren Fletcher at Man Utd. Dream shattered not being able to play in the final after an erroneous sending off, but he walked off in a professional, dignified manner. If anything, enhancing his own reputation.



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 29):
Also a real shame that Abidal will miss the final for such a disgraceful call.

If I was Drogba or any Chelsea player I would be really pissed and even as a West Ham fan, I feel sorry for Chelsea. But whatever industry youre in, you get the wrong end of wrong decisions and thats life, but you have to deal with that in a professional manner, all the more so when the world is watching you and there are dozens of little 10 year olds out there who view you as their hero and want to be like you one day. Personally I would probably freak out too, but Fletcher managed to restrain himself. Saying that, there should be more done to avoid such situations as its impossible for humans to keep emotions in check when so much is at stake and adrenalin is running high.

Since Ive been in Canada, Ive really got into hockey. When theres a close call, the game is stopped and all the refs have a little discussion and video footage is reviewed and they make a collective decision. I think this is a great idea. Theres still the chance of a collective wrong decision, but the chances are drastically reduced. Its most unjust for a player like Fletcher or Abidal to miss the game of their career due to one persons incompetence. Or for a team to miss the game of their season because of incompetence. Plus this also resolves the did the ball cross the line or not and offside arguments etc. Plus the clock is actually stopped when play stops, so no too much extra time arguments. I really think there could be a vast improvement in the game if this is implemented. And yes, select top referees for the big games - I remember not so long ago Collina would always be one of the men of choice for example. Some Norwegian would not have been chosen over him.
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Thu May 07, 2009 9:57 pm

Well from my opinion what ballack did was out of order and then Drogba just had to take it to far. The problem with Drogba is he thinks the club is based around him...well it isnt. Last night he played S**t! He is constantly asking the Ref for freekicks etc. He is a scared player, he is scared about messing up the opportunity so he goes down on the ground. I still cant believe he is playing on the first team, he does nothing, he doesnt run to get balls and has hissy fits when things dont go his way! He may have a few moments of magic but compared to all the other times i really dont think he is worth it

Thats my little piece lol for everyones info im a Liverpool Fan. I got nothing against Chelsea but Drogba really gets on my nerves!

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Thu May 07, 2009 10:06 pm



Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 28):
Sticking up for his team and what he believes

Sticking up for his team? All Drogba did was embarrass himself and the team. There's no doubt that penalties should have been awarded but that's certainly not the way to go about things.

Quoting Swiftski (Thread starter):
In any other profession, an employee in full uniform swearing and being abusive on live television would be dismissed, citing Gross Misconduct.

Yeah, in any other profession....

As for Ballack's behaviour towards the ref, grabbing him and so on, I think in any other sport he would have been sent off. Then again, there is a lack of respect for referees in football.

I was impressed with Frank Lampard who handled the situation very well I thought, good on him, some of his team mates could learn something from him.
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Thu May 07, 2009 10:13 pm

I'll make clear from the outset that the ref was very poor. He was clearly not up to the task and made some shocking decisions.

What Drogba did though was pathetic. The ref cant and wont change his decisions after the final whistle so this little display will have earned him nothing apart from a ban for behaving like a spoilt child. Last night hbis antics over the past few years all came home to roost in spectacular fashion. He dives around, he feigns injury and he abuses refs left right and centre. If it had been anyone else (bar maybe Ronaldo) I might have had some sympathy but he can take a running jump.

Then again as a premiership season ticket holder who also had a season ticket when my team was in the championship I've seen worse refereeing decisions than that on a number of occasions. Football isn't an exact science, sometimes you will be mugged, sometimes you can play terribly and win and vice versa, sometimes the ref will be terrible, sometimes you'll be on the right side of that terrible. I think many football fans would do well to remember this.
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 10:23 pm



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 26):
I would suggest that Drogba takes a good look at himself first - his constant diving and feigning of injury can easily persuade refs not to award penalties when he's involved.

In my opinion, there is a player on Man U who is almost identical, however, he scores more goals so I guess he is excused. Does appear that football today does require some acting skills, times have changed, my Squash sport is the same, bummer.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 26):
Indeed. If it was a conspiracy, he wouldn't have sent off a Barca player. That decision was just as incompetent as his non-awarding of penalties.

From a conspiracy point of view, doing exactly that would get the response that you just gave, it creates plausible deniability, this is coming from an X-Files fan  Smile
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 10:29 pm

I hate Drogba. He dived yesterday so that wasnt a penalty, and neither were the other ones apart from the Pique handball. So thats only one bad decision not the 4 they are going on about. But you win some and loose some.

What made me laugh was Drogba limped off the pitch and could barely walk, presumably to waste time and he looked in a lot of pain. But at the final whistle he ran onto the pitch. Pathetic.
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Thu May 07, 2009 10:43 pm



Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 28):
Oi Swiftski... Shut ya mouth you rugby playing fool! You don't even like football!

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Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 28):
Sticking up for his team and what he believes (and half the population of the world who don't even support Chelsea) witnessed at the hands of that complete t*at of a ref last night?

Sticking up is fine - the ref WAS terrible. He just did it the worst possible way.

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 28):
You are telling me that you are offended by a swear word live on TV? Please..

No - I feel like an old man for saying this, but the unfortunate fact is that there will be under 12's who will have watched the game live, but won't watch the 6 o'clock news. They will have seen him flip out, etc, but not seen or heard the apology. Young players/wannabe players copy their favourite hairstyles, boots, shirt numbers. So why will they not copy this?
 
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Thu May 07, 2009 11:07 pm

Reading through this thread i cant believe some people generally believe Chelsea should have had 4 pens to start with. Firstly Malouda just decided to fall over, there really was minimal contact. Then was it Anelka, He too decided to trip up. If i was running towards the goal and the defenders finger nail brushed my shirt i wouldnt fall over, so he shouldnt. Then there was the two 'handballs'. The one against Pique was a handball, no question so that was a penalty. Then the one right at the end, where it struck Eto'o on the top of his arm/shoulder? One it wasnt a handball and too he was turned away so it clearly wasnt a deliberate block.

And heres the killer, i support Chelsea. Did we deserve to go out? No dont think so, we played better than them but we didnt finish them off and thats our fault. Man United went out the FA cup to Everton when they should have had a second half penalty but they didnt. Things happen. We were denied one penalty, they had a player wrongly sent off.

As for the players reactions, well embarrassing really. Drogba should be fined and banned. If he never plays for us again i really dont care. Barca beat us, respect that and move on. Dont grab the ref etc.
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Fri May 08, 2009 12:13 am

This conspiracy theory is just silly, sounds like what comes out of italy every time an italian national team looses.
No way that there would be a conspiracy.

But the ref robbed Chelsea of a few penalties. He missed two blatant handballs and awarded a free kick when the incident happened in the penalty area. He chickened out.

I cant say that I thought the other incidents warranted penalties but three misses is to many on that level. The handball on Pique was just to obvious that it should not be possible to miss it.

Had a good laugh when I saw Chelsea fans attacking the stewards trying to get to the Barca supporters. Great, that will cost you even more when UEFA reviews the game. Playing up on tele worked in the 80:ies but not these days.
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Fri May 08, 2009 1:25 am

A lot has been said now so I can only echo the words of many others. Chelsea were quite unlucky to not get a penalty or two during the match so it is partially understandable however the behavior of several players perhaps went too far. I thought Ballack was bad enough let alone Drogba. Results should not be dependent upon penalty opportunities (penalties themselves do not guarantee certain goals) alone as Chelsea failed to capitalize off other chances.

I've never quite understood why the refereeing has never gone down the same path as rugby where video replays can be used in important decisions. It's the only way games can be fairly ruled. The technologies there, it's time to implement it in football. It might start reducing the amount of acting on field with a handful of players diving every single opportunity they get.

As for Drogba being fired, certainly not. A fine and small match ban would be more than enough. The public apology was a good step.
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Fri May 08, 2009 9:16 am

Michael Ballack, May 1st:

“The referee did a great job. This is football and the Barcelona players should know this.”

“In fact, it was a game where it was not necessary to talk about the referees at all. But this is how players react when they do not obtain the result they want.”

That's a big, fat PWNED.
 
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Fri May 08, 2009 9:26 am

He acted rudely and offensively in front of a vast audience, and should be disciplined in the full extent of the law.

There is nothing else to be discussed.
 
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Fri May 08, 2009 9:54 am



Quoting Par13del (Reply 18):
Well if the penalites had been given, the score would have been 2 or maybe 3 to 0 by the time Barca scored

If, if, if, if...!! If the referee had been someone else, the match would have been different, future would have been different. Maybe there would not have been a single controversial situation. It's useless to say "if". Things happened and cannot be changed.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 26):
It's interesting that in rugby, a hugely more physical game, the match officials command a respect that most football referees can only dream of.

Yes, there is a huge notion of respect in rugby. Hopefully, it will still be the same for years to come.

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 28):
Fair play to him for getting angry.

Fair play? Fair play for almost physically attack the ref? Fair play to have shown a poor attitfude to kids around the world? How do you expect educators and teachers at school or in clubs to inculcate respect to kids with examples like Ballack and Drogba on Wednesday?

Did Henry attack the ref for not granting a penalty during the first match in Barcelona? No. Did the Barça players went face to face with the ref and yelled at him after the red card of Abidal? No. Barcelona was in deep sh*t at that moment. Losing 1-0, playing the rest of the match with 10 men. They could have reacted violently, but they did not. They were unfair decisions, but they have accepted it.

I understand Ballack and Drogba's frustrations, but they went too far. I hope they will be severly punished for this.
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Fri May 08, 2009 9:58 am



Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 28):
Speedbir

What a load of rubbish, and hardly a suprise coming from a "dedicated Chelsea supporter".

What he did was out of line. If you were angered and did this in your line of work, I am sure you would be disciplined, as I would if I did the same.
 
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:05 am



Quoting Idealstandard (Reply 41):
He acted rudely and offensively in front of a vast audience, and should be disciplined in the full extent of the law.

To the full extent of the law? I hope you mean that UEFA will take care of this and not the law as in the system of justice we live by? If you do mean the latter then please explain how this should be dealt with by the police or a judge?

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 42):
Did Henry attack the ref for not granting a penalty during the first match in Barcelona? No. Did the Barça players went face to face with the ref and yelled at him after the red card of Abidal? No. Barcelona was in deep sh*t at that moment. Losing 1-0, playing the rest of the match with 10 men. They could have reacted violently, but they did not. They were unfair decisions, but they have accepted it.

Did Henry's "honourable" Barcelona team have up to 4 legitimate penalty situations that would have changed the match? The Chelsea players didn't overreact during the game when the first, second or third penalty shout was turned down. In extra time however when the match was practically finished Ballack hassled the ref when he had nothing left to loose. Drogba's actions were after the match and not during. Chelsea and Barcelona acted similarly during the game when decisions went against them, however it was after the match that, understandably, Droga flipped out.
 
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:20 am



Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 44):
understandably, Droga flipped out.

He's a professional. He should show the example.

You can express your frustration like Hiddink did (speaking calmly in front of cameras). But not like Drogba did. I'm sorry, but this is not an acceptable behaviour.
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:33 am



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 45):
You can express your frustration like Hiddink did (speaking calmly in front of cameras). But not like Drogba did. I'm sorry, but this is not an acceptable behaviour.

But it is no more unacceptable than what the referee did. Everybody is just throwing all of these accusations at Drogba whereas the referee is getting away with hardly any abuse. Fact is the referee was shocking and the players reacted accordingly. Any other team would have done the same. It may be unacceptable but it's right, it was the right thing to do for this kind of refereeing can't happen in these matches. Why can't they have a referee to the standard of somebody like Howard Webb who was great with the HSV-Bremen match in Bremen? He let the match go and if there were any big decisions to be made you could count on him to make it. It's not a coincidence that the HSV-Bremen match was one of the best matches all season, and Webb's refereeing complemented the attitude of the players and also their willingness to play.
 
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:37 am

Well the actions of the Chelsea players of which I think Ballack was the worst offender is just systematic of where football is nowadays. Overpaid and over hyped individuals that have been so pampered all their lives that they feel they should get their own way all the time and throw their toys out of their prams when it doesn't

This sort of behavior and the general state of football is why I no longer hold a season ticket at the club I support but now hold a season ticket at a rugby club as the competition and pressure is just a fierce but there is a respect amongst players, officials and supporters.
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:42 am



Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 46):
Any other team would have done the same

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Quoting JJJ (Reply 40):
Michael Ballack, May 1st:

“The referee did a great job. This is football and the Barcelona players should know this.”

“In fact, it was a game where it was not necessary to talk about the referees at all. But this is how players react when they do not obtain the result they want.”

 
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:54 am



Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 46):
But it is no more unacceptable than what the referee did. Everybody is just throwing all of these accusations at Drogba whereas the referee is getting away with hardly any abuse. Fact is the referee was shocking and the players reacted accordingly.

I totally agree that the ref was poor. I'm not at all defending him. But these mistakes are unfortunately part of the game. You probably remember Australia VS Italy in the 2006 Wold Cup?

That's why it's important to introduce new rules to help the refs. Video or more referees on the pitch or whatever that can assist and make the game better and fairer.
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