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Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 3:37 pm

I liked how Jay ended his 17 year run on the Tonight Show, introducing the 68 children born of parents who met while working on the Tonight Show. I remember when Jay took over from Johnny, he did not get the support from Johnny that Jay is giving to Connan. However he was successful, the tonight show was #1 when Jay took over in 1992 and it's #1 now as he leaves after 17 years.

Class act.

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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 3:46 pm

Try as I may, I could just never see Leno being as good as Carson. Carson just had that something that made it work. Maybe it was the way he interacted with Ed and Doc. It always seemed like Leno was being just a little insulting. Connan? That's a step down from Leno. He's a guy who is obviously working to be funny. Perhaps that's the difference, Carson seemed to do it effortlessly.

Anyway, congratulations to Jay Leno on a good run. I hope his prime time show does as well.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 5:05 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 1):
Try as I may, I could just never see Leno being as good as Carson. Carson just had that something that made it work. Maybe it was the way he interacted with Ed and Doc. It always seemed like Leno was being just a little insulting. Connan? That's a step down from Leno. He's a guy who is obviously working to be funny. Perhaps that's the difference, Carson seemed to do it effortlessly.

Maybe we just became more comfortable with Carson, because, really, there wasn't much competition, so we watched the Tonight Show. I wonder how well Carson would have done if he had the competition that Leno did, not just Letterman, but all the choices to tune in elsewhere on cable and satellite. Interesting to consider.

Good luck to Jay. I've also enjoyed watching him on his website, Jay Leno's Garage. Good stuff.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 6:14 pm



Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
Class act.

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That was a very nice last show.

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
I remember when Jay took over from Johnny, he did not get the support from Johnny that Jay is giving to Connan.

Well, the general consensus back then was that Letterman should take over the Tonight Show. Of course, for whatever reason, that didn't happen....

Quoting DXing (Reply 1):
Connan? That's a step down from Leno. He's a guy who is obviously working to be funny. Perhaps that's the difference, Carson seemed to do it effortlessly.

I actually think Conan's hilarious (much funnier than Leno or Letterman). His humor is a different type of humor, and I really don't know how well it will work on the Tonight Show. But I'm sure glad I won't have to stay up as late if I want to watch his show.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 7:02 pm

Leno is an "Everyman" character who was never as edgy as either Letterman or Conan..
Funny in a generic sort of way..

The on screen relationship with Eubanks always seemed contrived & fake to me, whereas Letterman & Schaeffer appear to be good friends.

I expected more of the last show. It would have been a good time to dump the traditional monologue, segment, guest, music format and go with a classy retrospective or something...
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 10:29 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 4):
The on screen relationship with Eubanks always seemed contrived & fake to me, whereas Letterman & Schaeffer appear to be good friends.

I disagree and think you are completely wrong because Eubanks is going to be the bandleader for his show in the fall, and he could have let him go at this point.

Also they have done things together outside the tonight show such as the WCW event in the summer of 1998 where Leno and DDP teamed up against Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff.

I think Letterman's style of comedy is more of a discussion anecdotal style that has him talk to Schaeffer far more than Leno talks to Eubanks. Also Leno's comedic style is observation humour that moves along pretty fast.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 11:22 pm



Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 5):
I disagree and think you are completely wrong because Eubanks is going to be the bandleader for his show in the fall, and he could have let him go at this point.

They may well be good buds, but as I said the onscreen relationship always seemed contrived & fake.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 11:29 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 6):
They may well be good buds, but as I said the onscreen relationship always seemed contrived & fake.

I wouldn't say "fake", but certainly painful to watch. Eubanks should just stick to playing music. But he's definitely no show man in the sense of the word.
 
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sat May 30, 2009 11:29 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 4):
I expected more of the last show. It would have been a good time to dump the traditional monologue, segment, guest, music format and go with a classy retrospective or something...

True, but that wouldn't have been in keeping with Leno's style as Tonight Show host. It felt strange at first not to have last night's show be something really different, but the more I thought about it, the more I found it fitting and appropriate. Having all the children on screen was a nice way to end things.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sun May 31, 2009 4:00 am



Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
I wouldn't say "fake", but certainly painful to watch. Eubanks should just stick to playing music. But he's definitely no show man in the sense of the word.

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It actually always annoyed the hell out of me how Leno always turned to Eubanks for a laugh.

I suppose Letterman does the same with Schaeffer, but for some reason it annoyed me less.

Maybe cause I find Letterman funnier.
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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sun May 31, 2009 12:26 pm

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 9):
I suppose Letterman does the same with Schaeffer, but for some reason it annoyed me less.

Maybe cause I find Letterman funnier.

Shaffer just seems to be an even match to Letterman, both of them being able to play with irony.

Eubanks by comparison makes a rather helpless impression; He always feels a bit like being taunted by a bully, or desperately trying to keep up and failing most of the time. I can't help but cringe most of the time when he's involved.

I liked Leno as well, but Letterman's more ironic approach is closer to myself personally.

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RE: Jay Leno's Last Tonight Show

Sun May 31, 2009 1:34 pm



Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):

Class act.

Indeed it was. I felt that Leno dumbed down the show a bit these past few years (something that he actually admits as being directed by the "suits" at NBC) but every opportunity I had to watch his show I always found a joke or two that made me laugh at the end of a long/hard day. Thanks for 17 great years!

Quoting DXing (Reply 1):
Try as I may, I could just never see Leno being as good as Carson.

I'm too young to have watched Carson regularly so I have no impressions of him, but comparing Leno to his contemporaries always seemed like an exercise in futility to me. Comedians are a bit like cars, different flavors which appeal to sometimes drastically different demographics or tastes. I like Leno, Seinfeld and Letterman, tolerate O'Brian, can't stand Will Ferrel or Adam Sandler. If you ask 10 folks in here they'll give you 10 different answers I'm sure.
 
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Sun May 31, 2009 5:44 pm

Well, putting Conan on was a big mistake.

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