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Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:34 pm

Well, if there's been any doubt that FOX News Network is indeed simply the "Republican News Network", I give you the reaction of righties over Shepherd Smith's views at FOX News.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200906110030

I didn't think it was a bad thing for commentators to view some of their own opinions on air, when they felt it was appropriate. Oh, but wait, I forgot: this is FOX NEWS. The bastion of conservatism! They can't have anyone not towing the party line, can they?

Can you imagine the outrage from the right, had CNN tried to fire someone for their own views, simply because they didn't conform to a certain mindset?

This is pretty hysterical, if you ask me.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:38 pm

Dude, if you are going to tell these stories please reference legitmate web-sites.
Media matters is not one of these

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Can you imagine the outrage from the right, had CNN tried to fire someone for their own views, simply because they didn't conform to a certain mindset?

Why they have done it before.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:09 pm

Very unlikely to happen, for a variety of reasons; if he says that what he says is his own view, then firing him would probably be in breach of his first amendment rights, and perhaps an admission by Fox that it is politically biased, something which presumably it continues to deny (no doubt to the amusement of most of the sane world!)
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:11 pm

And you have to remember that Fox is the network that left winger Alan Combs was on for years.

He never got sacked.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:15 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
Dude, if you are going to tell these stories please reference legitmate web-sites.
Media matters is not one of these

Then, by that logic, the sources (and quotes) that the Media Matters item cites -- WorldNetDaily, Pamella Geller, and Rush Limbaugh -- are illegitimate as well.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:27 pm

Smith should be true to the American way - sell out and get a HUGE pay increase and contract with MSNBC or CNN. It's all about the money anyhow in the American mass media.  yes 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:36 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
And you have to remember that Fox is the network that left winger Alan Combs was on for years.

He never got sacked.

Why sack a punching bag for Hannity? Combs posed no "threat" whatsoever -- he was (is) an absolute milquetoast.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:43 pm

Shep sounds like a dogs name .  Big grin
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:02 pm



Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Shep sounds like a dogs name . Big grin

Wonder if Fox will take a cue from the eponymous Elvis Presley song and put ol' Shep down.  Yeah sure
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:44 pm



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Very unlikely to happen, for a variety of reasons; if he says that what he says is his own view, then firing him would probably be in breach of his first amendment rights, and perhaps an admission by Fox that it is politically biased, something which presumably it continues to deny (no doubt to the amusement of most of the sane world!)

They can still fire him for something he says. The first amendment only protects him from being prosecuted, not fired.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
And you have to remember that Fox is the network that left winger Alan Combs was on for years.

Oh yeah, he's a real left winger. FOX only kept him so that anytime someone would say they aren't "fair and balanced" FOX could say they do have a liberal.
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:12 pm

I like the guy. He does a good job. But of course it is legal to fire him for saying things on the air. It is his job to do what his bosses want, and say what they want him to say. Workers who don't do that can be fired at will.
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:24 pm

I like Shep. And I am a conservative. People need to relax. Although the report angered me just like it angered others he does have a point. I just think the DHS doesn't need to take it to an extreme like in the report.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:47 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Can you imagine the outrage from the right, had CNN tried to fire someone for their own views, simply because they didn't conform to a certain mindset?

Such as Glen Beck?

But I imagine things worked out better for him in the long run, considering he's now on a network with double the ratings as CNN
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:52 pm

So how is an 88 year old WW II veteran that has gone mental equate to returning Sand Box Veterans joining right wing extremist groups? Von Brunn is a terrorist, while a black convert to Islam who kills a US. Soldier and wounds another in the US is not?????? With the President going on another apology 2009 tour to Muslim Countries there was no comment from the White House for almost a week and he WAS NOT called a terrorist.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:06 pm



Quoting N318EA (Reply 13):
To describe Mediamatters as other than a Ultra Liberal Media outlet would require "suspension of disbelief."

Read the item. Media Matters cites Limbaugh et al.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:08 pm



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Very unlikely to happen, for a variety of reasons; if he says that what he says is his own view, then firing him would probably be in breach of his first amendment rights, and perhaps an admission by Fox that it is politically biased, something which presumably it continues to deny (no doubt to the amusement of most of the sane world!)

I don't really watch his show, but as I understand it, I don't think it is a commentary show like Hannity or O'Reilly. It's more of a news show, and as such should be less tolerant of personal opinion.

That said I think this is a tempest in a teapot. What I am more upset at is that the nutjob at the Holocaust museum has been described as a right-wing extremist by the mainstream media and by some administration spokesmen.

Let's see now. He hates Israel. He is a hardline socialist. He hates religion - Jews in particular but the others as well. Guess what - that makes him a LEFT-wing extremist, doesn't it?
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:12 pm



Quoting PITrules (Reply 12):
Such as Glen Beck?

But I imagine things worked out better for him in the long run, considering he's now on a network with double the ratings as CNN

I am surprised CNN kept him around as long as they did. They should have pulled the plug after the first show. Not because he's a conservative... because hes a fear-mongering imbecile who will say anything to get some notoriety.

No matter how big of dicks I think Hannity and O'Reilly are, they're still way more respectable and reputable than Beck.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:33 pm



Quoting Jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 16):
No matter how big of dicks I think Hannity and O'Reilly are, they're still way more respectable and reputable than Beck.

I disagree. Hannity is a shill - Republicans are always right, Democrats are always wrong, period. I don't like watching him because he is so inflexible and constant, constant bashing.

O'Reilly is better - he tries hard to be fair and to present both sides. My problem with O'Reilly is that he spends too much time on irrelevancies like the latest misdeeds of celebrities.

I like Beck a lot. You call it fear-mongering, but he is the only presenter I know of who is trying to put current events in context of where we are going compared to the founding principles of the country. Sure, he acts a bit goofy sometimes, but that's just his character - that doesn't detract from what he is saying. He criticizes Republicans just as readily as Democrats - he's a libertarian. He has presented analyses on his show that I've never seen on any other program, presented by knowledgeable experts. I don't always agree with him, but I think his is an excellent show.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:48 pm



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 17):
I like Beck a lot. You call it fear-mongering, but he is the only presenter I know of who is trying to put current events in context of where we are going compared to the founding principles of the country. Sure, he acts a bit goofy sometimes, but that's just his character - that doesn't detract from what he is saying. He criticizes Republicans just as readily as Democrats - he's a libertarian. He has presented analyses on his show that I've never seen on any other program, presented by knowledgeable experts. I don't always agree with him, but I think his is an excellent show.

I remember being in D.C. in 2006 sometime, turning him on, and him telling me to be afraid of a terrorist attack in NY or DC because of some Qaran or Muslim calender, blah blah blah. Guy can go completely off his hinges, i've lost all and any respect for him.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:40 am



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
if he says that what he says is his own view, then firing him would probably be in breach of his first amendment rights

It is not illegal for a private company to fire someone for their views. The 1st Amendment only protects people from the government imposing laws prohibiting freedom of expression.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 3):
And you have to remember that Fox is the network that left winger Alan Combs was on for years.

He never got sacked.

Because his purpose on the network was to make Hannity look good.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 15):
What I am more upset at is that the nutjob at the Holocaust museum has been described as a right-wing extremist by the mainstream media and by some administration spokesmen.

Let's see now. He hates Israel. He is a hardline socialist. He hates religion - Jews in particular but the others as well. Guess what - that makes him a LEFT-wing extremist, doesn't it?

When it comes to people like that, there isn't a lot of difference between a right-wing extremist and a left-wing extremist. They're just extremists.

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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:43 am



Quoting Santosdumont (Reply 14):
Read the item. Media Matters cites Limbaugh et al.

So what? You can parse and spin anything to meet your needs. As much as I dislike Limbaugh Obama & the attack dogs at MSNBC blasted him by not reporting the entire quote where he said he hoped Obama failed. He clearly said and meant "at Socialism."
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:07 pm



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 15):
Let's see now. He hates Israel. He is a hardline socialist. He hates religion - Jews in particular but the others as well. Guess what - that makes him a LEFT-wing extremist, doesn't it?

On the other hand, anti-Semitism and intolerance of minorities in general is a conservative position--elevating one's own culture, resisting change caused by the incorporation of new cultures, all that jazz. And let's not confuse socialism with National Socialism, aka Naziism.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:54 pm



Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 21):
On the other hand, anti-Semitism and intolerance of minorities in general is a conservative position--elevating one's own culture, resisting change caused by the incorporation of new cultures, all that jazz.

Oh, BS. Anti-semitism is found both on the left and right equally. Just ask Rev. Wright after his comments last week. And there is a difference between tolerance/welcoming of minorities and giving them special privileges. Conservatives believe in equal treatment.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 21):
And let's not confuse socialism with National Socialism, aka Naziism.

Sounds like an evasion to me. He hated conservatives, hated Fox News (O'Reilly in particular) and promoted "Western Socialism". Sorry, but he was closer to your views than mine.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:17 pm



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 5):
Smith should be true to the American way - sell out and get a HUGE pay increase and contract with MSNBC or CNN. It's all about the money anyhow in the American mass media. yes

 checkmark  Those liberal networks need someone to make some ratings, cause Fox News is doubling their ratings  yes 

Quoting PITrules (Reply 12):
Such as Glen Beck?

But I imagine things worked out better for him in the long run, considering he's now on a network with double the ratings as CNN

 rotfl  Yes and I'm stoked Glenn Beck left CNN. Now Dobbs needs to leave, then CNN would surely fall on its face, the way MSNBC has.

Fox News = Fair and Balanced because they're having to balance out the ultra left wing MSNBC and liberally biased CNN networks, whose combined ratings might I add are in the tank compared to Fox.  Wink

It's funny that the left knocks Fox for being a mouthpiece for the Right Wing, while the liberals fail to acknowledge MSNBC/ABC/CBS/CNN are mouthpieces for the Left...
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:35 pm



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 23):

It's funny that the left knocks Fox for being a mouthpiece for the Right Wing, while the liberals fail to acknowledge MSNBC/ABC/CBS/CNN are mouthpieces for the Left...

If that's the case, seems to go against your own point about FNC ratings... Add all of those up and then compare to Fox...

Hell, i'll turn them on occasionally, if i'm in the mood for a laugh.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:38 pm

What the American "news" networks really need to do is attach blood pressure monitors to their personalities. If anyone spikes too high, they should be FIRED.

Honestly, that would go a long way towards improving the state of things on both ends, liberal and conservative.
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:14 pm



Quoting Jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 24):
Hell, i'll turn them on occasionally, if i'm in the mood for a laugh.

You must be talking about MSNBC  highfive  You're right. The things that are said on that network are quite entertaining!

Quoting Jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 24):
If that's the case, seems to go against your own point about FNC ratings... Add all of those up and then compare to Fox...

Yeah, I screwed up. It takes all of those networks ratings to catch up to Fox. Apparently the American public isn't interested in liberally spun news.

"Fox News Channel was once again the top-rated cable news network for the month of May, another newsy month that included the announcement of Supreme Court Justice David Souter’s retirement, the ongoing American automotive industry crisis and dueling national security speeches from President Obama and former vice president Dick Cheney.

MSNBC again topped CNN in primetime in the 25-54 demographic, the third consecutive month MSNBC has beaten CNN in the demo.

FNC had nine of the top-ten programs in cable news among total viewers, posting a 30% increase in primetime in the 25-54 demographic compared to May 2008, according to Nielsen Media Research. MSNBC was down 9% and CNN was down 37%. HLN was up 40% to come within 2,000 viewers of CNN in the demo. MSNBC averaged 250,000 viewers in the demo in primetime to finish in second place behind CNN (194,000 viewers) and HLN (192,000 viewers). But FNC’s primetime demo tune-in beat MSNBC and CNN’s combined, averaging 463,000 demo viewers.

FNC’s signature programs posted double-digit ratings gains in total viewers and the demo.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...annel_Still_On_Top.php?rssid=20065
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:31 pm

Well, you started throwing around the major networks- CBS, ABC, NBC in the 'mouthpieces of the left' category, but now fail to include them in the aggregate numbers to compare to FNC....interesting.

In any event, i'm not sure why either side would want top honors in the- we watch more of the blowhards on cable news sweepstakes.  Wink

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 26):
You must be talking about MSNBC    You're right. The things that are said on that network are quite entertaining!

No, I was referring to fox...although people like Olbermann can be just about as comical.

This is the kind of thing i talk about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaYLo76RrEE

Some fine reporting and commentary! Way to go!!
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:41 pm



Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 27):
This is the kind of thing i talk about..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaYLo76RrEE

Some fine reporting and commentary! Way to go!!

I agree that this is silly, and it's why I really don't like to watch Hannity, especially now that he doesn't have Colmes to bounce off of.

But Hannity is an extreme case, I think.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:49 pm



Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 27):

Some fine reporting and commentary! Way to go!!

I concur, that it must have been a slow news cycle when they're reporting on how Obama orders a burger. I like spicy mustard too, Hannity.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:03 pm

Gosh people - you may not like Media Matters, but when the article cited by the thread starter merely references arch-conservative blowhards VERBATIM - you can't really blame MM for reporting on it.
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:10 pm



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 30):
Gosh people - you may not like Media Matters, but when the article cited by the thread starter merely references arch-conservative blowhards VERBATIM - you can't really blame MM for reporting on it.

Yes you can. Seeing the source and not the content is a favorite tactic, dont ya know?
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:57 pm



Quoting Jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 31):
Seeing the source and not the content is a favorite tactic, dont ya know?

What do you think I meant when I said "verbatim?" As in, Media Matters referenced the three arch-conservative blowhards "verbatim." FYI - the word "verbatim," according to Webster's, means:

"in the exact words; word for word"

The referenced content is at the Web link included by the thread starter.

You really just can't argue with stupid.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:29 am

What qualifies Shepard Smith as an "arch-conservative blowhard?"
Shepard's stated "This is a former military guy and he's gone extremist. They were warning us for a reason -- not about something political or social or anything else. ... It was a warning to us all. And it appears now that they were right." THAT was what ticked off Fox viewers. The implication that Von Brunn was included in the offensive DHS rubbish about returning Gulf War Vets being recruited by right-wing terrorists groups.

The original post uses unsubstantiated opinion and a link by an far left organization like MM to trash conservatives.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:39 am

There seems to be a misunderstanding that everyone in America watches cable news. The truth is though that many choose to avoid it, as it does a very poor job of properly expressing information. You simply do not get the full story, nor a necessarily accurate represenation of it, because of the medias reliance on the "shock" factor. Nothing is as simple as the 30 second sound bites that everything is compacted into it.
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:23 pm



Quoting N318EA (Reply 33):
What qualifies Shepard Smith as an "arch-conservative blowhard?"
Shepard's stated "This is a former military guy and he's gone extremist. They were warning us for a reason -- not about something political or social or anything else. ... It was a warning to us all. And it appears now that they were right." THAT was what ticked off Fox viewers. The implication that Von Brunn was included in the offensive DHS rubbish about returning Gulf War Vets being recruited by right-wing terrorists groups.

The original post uses unsubstantiated opinion and a link by an far left organization like MM to trash conservatives.

I wasn't referring to Smith as the arch-conservative blowhard - the other three though (Limbaugh, Geller and Kovacs), yes.

And the original link does not link to an opinion piece! Are you blind? The mediamatters link merely quotes - VERBATIM - from the mouth-frothers' tongue. Stop acting like media matters made something up here - they're reporting on it.

Apparently, you also can't argue with people who can't read/think/infer either.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:58 pm



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
Dude, if you are going to tell these stories please reference legitmate web-sites. Media matters is not one of these

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Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Shep sounds like a dogs name .

So does Wolf.  Big grin

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 23):
Now Dobbs needs to leave

Good old Lou.; maybe he'll abandon ship like Greta.  rotfl 
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:36 pm



Quoting Zotan (Reply 34):
There seems to be a misunderstanding that everyone in America watches cable news. The truth is though that many choose to avoid it, as it does a very poor job of properly expressing information. You simply do not get the full story, nor a necessarily accurate represenation of it, because of the medias reliance on the "shock" factor. Nothing is as simple as the 30 second sound bites that everything is compacted into it.

Well people are getting their news from somewhere, and it's no longer the dying liberal rags known as the New York Times and other antiquated print media outlets.

Quoting Fxramper (Reply 36):

So does Wolf. Big grin

 rotfl  Every network has their dog I suppose. MSNBC's is that man-woman Rachel Maddow  duck 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:40 pm

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 35):
Apparently, you also can't argue with people who can't read/think/infer either.


I don't think it's me that has a comprehension problem. I'll go a little slower this time.
The entire original post is unsubstantiated opinion demeaning conservatives.
The MM link to the statement by Shepard Smith is accurate and I never said it was not. It was used to disparage conservatives.
The statement by Shepard Smith upset conservatives by implying Von Brunn to DHS report of return vets being recruited by right wing extremists. "This is a former military guy and he's gone extremist." THAT is way out of line. In case you missed it 88 is a little old for Gulf War Vets which is what was in the DHS memo. While I disagree with Shepard's statement, I wouldn't have been pissed if he either corrected or clarified that point.

No one was arguing except you.

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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:08 pm



Quoting Max550 (Reply 9):
Oh yeah, he's a real left winger. FOX only kept him so that anytime someone would say they aren't "fair and balanced" FOX could say they do have a liberal

Geraldine Ferraro seems to have found a home there. I was standing in line at the bank (which had FOX on one of the monitors and I just happened to glance up thinking :OMG! lol!  Silly )
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:39 pm



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 37):
Well people are getting their news from somewhere, and it's no longer the dying liberal rags known as the New York Times and other antiquated print media outlets

Liberal rag? Why? Because it tries to report the truth?

You do realize that people get their news from other places besides TV right? Ever heard of the internet?
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:00 am



Quoting Zotan (Reply 40):
Liberal rag? Why? Because it tries to report the truth?

Hahaha  rotfl   rotfl  I have no response. Such a naive boy you are.

Quoting Zotan (Reply 40):
You do realize that people get their news from other places besides TV right? Ever heard of the internet?

The internet? Oh yeah, isn't that the thing that Al Gore invented  Confused Of the millions of Americans who do watch news on TV, FoxNews owns them all for total viewership. I'm also happy to report these nifty little numbers for you:

"Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on six out of 10 key issues, including the top issue of the economy.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% now trust the GOP more to handle economic issues, while 39% trust Democrats more."


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ca/trust_on_issues/trust_on_issues

It seems that the 'propaganda' on FoxNews must be working because in less than 6 months of the new administration, Americans already trust the GOP on 6 of the top 10 key issues. Darn that FoxNews!
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:09 am



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 41):
Hahaha       I have no response. Such a naive boy you are.

Funny ... that's exactly how I feel about you. Do tell ... what exactly is wrong with the NYT? No response tells me you don't know.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 41):
The internet? Oh yeah, isn't that the thing that Al Gore invented   Of the millions of Americans who do watch news on TV, FoxNews owns them all for total viewership. I'm also happy to report these nifty little numbers for you

You are acting as FoxNews' little pimp or something. This isn't a competition - I'm just stating that people get their news online as well.

And how are those Rasmussen numbers relevant? Or do you just feel the need to throw in some political jab anytime you see fit?

Grow up bud ... not everything is as black and white as you're beloved Faux Noise portrays it to be.

Oh and BTW ... go back to the cow fart thread. You should have some fun with that.
 
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:09 am



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 41):

Quoting Zotan (Reply 40):
Liberal rag? Why? Because it tries to report the truth?

Hahaha       I have no response. Such a naive boy you are.

Don't you feel the same way about Fox news?

You're one to talk about naivety.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:24 am



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 37):
the dying liberal rags known as the New York Times and other antiquated print media outlets.



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 41):


Quoting Zotan (Reply 40):
Liberal rag? Why? Because it tries to report the truth?

Hahaha       I have no response. Such a naive boy you are.

Well, reading the NYT does not make someone naive. Instead, reading any newspaper tends to make the reader more informed.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:37 am

Quoting Zotan (Reply 42):
Do tell ... what exactly is wrong with the NYT? No response tells me you don't know.

The fact that the news paper is caught up in one scandal after another.

Quoting Zotan (Reply 42):

Grow up bud ... not everything is as black and white as you're beloved Faux Noise portrays it to be.

Faux Noise    That's a good one. I have to admit   

Quoting Zotan (Reply 42):
Oh and BTW ... go back to the cow fart thread. You should have some fun with that.

I did, but half the thread is filled with guys like you who are releasing much more hot air than a bunch of cows the EPA wants to tax. Maybe they should start taxing threads like that?

Quoting Jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 43):
You're one to talk about naivety.

Naive because some kid on here says that the NYT prints the truth? Haha that's entertaining.

Quoting Cws818 (Reply 44):
Well, reading the NYT does not make someone naive. Instead, reading any newspaper tends to make the reader more informed.

Some newspapers yes. There are other news rags FAR more credible than the NYT.

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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:45 am



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 45):
Naive because some kid on here says that the NYT prints the truth? Haha that's entertaining.

No, because you are calling someone else naive for feeling the same way you do, in an equal but opposite manor.

As you've shown you're completely enamored with fox news, but a NYT reader is now the naive one.

Perfect example of pot- kettle- black.

I didn't call you naive, but if you start throwing that around at others for the same sentiment you have shown..perhaps its time to look in the mirror?

Also, what does the other user's age have to do with anything here? Just using the ultimate last resort in an argument, nice.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:56 am

Show me where Fox News has been busted in repeated scandals.

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 46):
Also, what does the other user's age have to do with anything here? Just using the ultimate last resort in an argument, nice.

Ultimate last resort? No last resort. But you are right, perhaps I should leave out age. I have had much more intelligent conversations with kids younger than him.

JpetekYXMD80, you cannot honestly tell me that the NYT isn't a far left leaning newspaper that, particularly recently, has been busted in one scandal after another.

I will certainly admit, that Fox leans to the right, but i can't seem to recall them being busted in scandals. I'm not here to defend Fox News but, when Fox is the ONLY mass media source that leans to the right, while all the others lean to the left, I feel it is somewhat important to note that their ratings seem to be much higher than its competition, while far left leaning media outlets seem to be falling in subscribers and/or viewers.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:01 am

I think it simply comes down to this: he thinks NYT reports the truth, you think FNC reports the truth, and I saw no reason whatsoever for you to call him naive and demean with age for having a similar but opposite opinion of yours.
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RE: Conservatives Want Shep Smith Fired At FOX

Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:28 am



Quoting EA772LR (Reply 47):
Show me where Fox News has been busted in repeated scandals.

You seem to have this misunderstanding that simply having a scandal means that their journalistic integrity is jeopardized. Sure, the NYT has had scandals but none of the ones that you are thinking of have called into question the validity of the information they report. In fact, the scandal that they got the most heat for was their lack of oversight of the lead-up to the Iraq war. Not something that a liberal rag would do huh?

Fox News on the other hand fabricates information every single day. Take the newly released CBO report on Kennedy's healthcare bill. Fox News was parading it around all day as proof that healthcare reform would cost a lot and do little. What they failed to mention though was that the report was incomplete, as it did not analyze many aspects of the bill that were still up for debate.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 47):
Ultimate last resort? No last resort. But you are right, perhaps I should leave out age. I have had much more intelligent conversations with kids younger than him.

You've gotta stop stroking your ego like that. There is no need for insults. Attack my message, not me.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 45):
I did, but half the thread is filled with guys like you who are releasing much more hot air than a bunch of cows the EPA wants to tax. Maybe they should start taxing threads like that?

Hot air? People like you were trying to argue that climate change was a hoax, and I responded with a fact based argument contending that it wasn't. I also challenged all of you to debate me on it, because it seemed like all of you were so confident in your views.

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