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French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:52 pm

Mathieu Bastereaud told Police in Wellington, New Zealand that he was attacked by 4 or 5 New Zealanders while walking back to his teams hotel after their loss to the All Blacks. It was later revealed that Bastereaud infact lied about being attacked after the hotel manager handed Police secuirty footage of the French rugby player arriving back at the hotel with the French captain Thierry Dusautoir, loose forward Fulgence Ouedraogo and some girls after having one too many drinks at a local pub. Bastereaud admitted he hit his head on a table in his hotel room only after Police thratened to release the secuirty footage if he didn't come clean.

Mathieu nothing but a lying Bastereaud - http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...ieu-nothing-but-a-lying-Bastareaud
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:35 am

Silly mistake by this guy, huge over-reaction from Wellington and the press. I think it highlights the small town mentality we have in NZ sometimes. A little embarassing.

If we were gracious about it, I think we would just say, "OK mate, you were a bit pissed and decided to tell a little white lie to squirm out of it, we can get over it". Instead the press, politicians, police, media are making statements about this guy as if he is responsible for a serious international incident.
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:43 am

Well the New Zealanders were worried about the negative press they would have after a French player got attacked by "thugs", because NZ is hosting the rugby World Cup sometime soon. It is a national event and I guess the politicians wanted everything to go smoothly, and to show that they are capable of hosting.
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:45 am



Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 2):

Should everyone who gets drunk and makes up a lie over something that happened/didn't happen be allowed to get away with it? As far as I'm concerned the reaction is warrented because it had the potential to ruin Wellington's and New Zealand's reputuation ahead of the RWC in 2011. He deserves to be charged for wasting police time and I hope an arrest warrent is issued so he can be charged when he next returns.
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:33 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 4):
because it had the potential to ruin Wellington's and New Zealand's reputuation ahead of the RWC in 2011.

No it didn't. This is my point, It's paranoia. Even if the allegation were true, do we really think that the international perception of our country/cities is weak enough to completely "ruin" it's reputation when considered it against all of the other positive aspects? This is what I mean by "small town". It seems like an inferiority complex. We need to learn to brush this stuff off and take the higher road.

I'm not saying that this guy should have NO accountability for the incident. It's just that this is way overblown.
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:46 am



Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 5):
completely "ruin" it's reputation when considered it against all of the other positive aspects?

Well it does more harm than good, that's for sure. And it was a rugby player; player security has a very high priority. I don't think the New Zealand officials wanted to leave anything at risk.

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 5):
I'm not saying that this guy should have NO accountability for the incident. It's just that this is way overblown.

Lying to police is against the law, so he should be held accountable for that I suppose.
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:48 am



Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 5):

How do you know if it has or hasn't? If the truth hadn't come out then we would't have knowen around 2011 had his lies had caused harm. Rugby is one of the worlds most popular sports and this news would have been headlines in those rugby countrys. Those headlines would have painted a bad picture of New Zealand as a whole. Some friends I know in England and Scotland have said that the 'attack' is causing headlines. When a couple was attacked near Invercagill while staying at a camp site earlier this year and the wife was raped, that incident caused a drop off in numbers at that camp site which in the end forced it to closed down. People always look at the negatives instead of the full picture. Thats fact and thats how things work. People are cancelling holidays because of the swine flu - even thou the risk of catching it is low
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:30 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 7):
How do you know if it has or hasn't?

OK, I see from your response that we are debating semantics. When you said, "ruin" you probably meant, "negatively effect". I would hope that Wellingtonians don't truly believe that a single incident like this could completely derail it's international standing.

Again, I am not saying that this guy should be let off scot-free. i'm just saying that the reaction is overblown. Imagine the international perception of New Zealander's hospitality if, at the end of this crisis, instead of having the following happen:

The mayor of the city talking about collusion and conspiracies
Our newspapers, supposedly of International standard, calling him a "lying bastard" for the world to see
The investgating policeman making public character judgements well outside the scope of his reponsibility as it relates to this incident

Maybe if all of these people took the Graham Henry approach:

"He's just a young guy making bad decisions and in this case he made a very bad decision and those things happen whether you're a Frenchman or a New Zealander or an Australian from time to time with young people."

The end result would be: The truth would have come out, the player would have been appropriately punsihed, and Wellintonians/kiwis would still be viewed as a reasonably easy going hospitable bunch who can forgive an indiscretion. Instead we look like a paranoid, intolerant bunch that think that the 5% of the world that know about this incident will forever shudder at the sound of the word, "Wellington"
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:27 am

A new twist to this story.

Bastareaud attacked by team-mate - report - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2548...reaud-attacked-by-team-mate-report
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:48 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 8):

 Confused What the hell is going on here?
 
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RE: French Rugby Player Mathieu Bastereaud Lied

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Quoting Elite (Reply 9):

Lets just say its getting better and better with all the lies. Sounds like Bastereaud really deserves some serious punishment

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