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I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:38 pm

Ok... I may regret posting this for any number of reasons but I really am starting to bother me.

For various reasons I feel the need to be very vauge which is contrary to my normal instinct, so here goes... (And if you have guesses based on either knowing me personally or the subjects of other threads, please don't include specific people/places/activities in the response)

Happened to stumble across profile on online dating website... very intrigued by profile as it seems like we have a lot in common and enough different to keep things interesting. She's slightly older than I had in mind, but because her profile was very intriguing and she comes off as confident, mature, intelligent, and a bit funny along with an interest in many of the same things -- and I haven't had luck finding these traits in someone closer to my age*... so I sent her an email... and she responded.

We've exchanged a few emails since then and I've come to learn that in addition to being intelligent and mature she's also incredibly tallented and well traveled.

We eachanged a few emails, the last one where I extended an invitation to get togeher (for coffee) or a casual meal and then several days passed without hearing from her. She appologized for disappearing because she's entertaining guests and suggested getting together later on this week. Unfourtunately, I'm going to be in Pittsburgh from this afternoon through Friday.

On Sunday I suggested getting together early next week. I haven't heard anything back yet. I shouldn't expect to have heard anything back yet -- she told me as much (because of the guests). That's fine.

But my behavior is starting to concern me -- I'm checking email impulsively (despite knowing that I shouldn't expect to hear anything monday, today, or even possibly tomorrow), I'm loosing sleep, I'm running through conversation topics in my head, among other things...how not to play "20 questions" about her tallent [because, of course, there is far more to her], if political topics are verbotten on the first get together** even though we both say that we like good discussions..., if the fact that she's a little older than other women I've dated should affect my behavior at all) all for something that isn't even gaurnteed to happen yet.

Uh... this can not be healthy. I've been wound up before, I've been wound up about potential dates before, but I don't think I've ever been this wound up about anything. Part of it is I just need to keep telling myself "Normal, adult woman. Normal, adult woman..." and take a bunch of really deep breaths.

Any other advice...

Lincoln


*- One of the things that took it from "Wow, we have a lot in common, but..." to "I would regret not sending her at least one email..." was the fact that neither the word "Football" nor the word "sports" appears a single time in her profile. I think that that's true of less than 1 in 50 of the profiles I've looked at in the 21-29 range.

** - I'm also, for some reason, uncomfortable calling it a date...
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:04 pm

Man rule #1 with chicks, never, ever lose your cool.. It seems like you have too much time alone with your thoughts, never a good idea for anyone. Blow off some steam, go excersise, hike, swim, road trip, movie etc... Keep yourself busy doing something so that your distracted.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:15 pm



Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
blow off some steam... ...swim

This I do not recommend, unless you won't be swimming laps.
Lap swimming gives you SO much time to think about things, it's ridiculous. Swimming with friends/family, yes that would be good. But try and avoid Lap Swimming.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:28 pm

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
she appologized for disappearing because she's entertaining guests

Hmmm.....someone who disappears while entertaining guests....sounds like Westy.   

Sorry, that was a reference to another website...now on to your issue: Yes, you are driving yourself crazy. First step is to get your mind on something else. One thing that might help: find another woman to initiate contact with. With online dating, limiting yourself to one at a time just doesn't cut it.

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
was the fact that neither the word "Football" nor the word "sports" appears a single time in her profile. I think that that's true of less than 1 in 50 of the profiles I've looked at in the 21-29 range.

That was my experience as well. I got the impression that many of them put that in there because they though that's what guys want to hear.

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
I'm also, for some reason, uncomfortable calling it a date...

Meh, so what? If you don't want to call it a date, don't. Even though that's what it is, saying you're "meeting someone over coffee" does sound a lot less intimidating than "a date."

[Edited 2009-07-28 09:29:42]
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:52 pm



Quoting ZuluAviator994 (Reply 2):
This I do not recommend, unless you won't be swimming laps.

For me, at least... hiking/exercising/swimming/roadtripping is excactly when I find myself deepest in thought.... My Sunday Morning Walk this week (+/- 10 miles) was pretty much entirely consumed with the internal dialogue I discussed above, as compared to the usual reflecting on the week behind me/projecting the week in front of me.

I'm driving to Pittsburgh this afternoon and I'm hoping that just cranking up the music really loudly will keep me from dwelling too long.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 3):
That was my experience as well. I got the impression that many of them put that in there because they though that's what guys want to hear.

Some of them that's kind of ovbious, others they come off as raving Browns/Cavs/Indians fanatics (remember, this is Cleveland... and [native] Clevelanders of all shapes, sizes, ages, and genders are incredibly passionate about their sports teams)

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 3):
saying you're "meeting someone over coffee" does sound a lot less intimidating than "a date."

Subconciously that may be exactly why I'm adverse to using the word "date".

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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:01 pm



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 4):


Quoting ZuluAviator994 (Reply 2):
This I do not recommend, unless you won't be swimming laps.

For me, at least... hiking/exercising/swimming/roadtripping is excactly when I find myself deepest in thought.... My Sunday Morning Walk this week (+/- 10 miles) was pretty much entirely consumed with the internal dialogue I discussed above, as compared to the usual reflecting on the week behind me/projecting the week in front of me.

I'm driving to Pittsburgh this afternoon and I'm hoping that just cranking up the music really loudly will keep me from dwelling too long.

I know how you feel, so I'd keep human interaction up!  Smile
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:20 pm



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
We eachanged a few emails, the last one where I extended an invitation to get togeher (for coffee) or a casual meal and then several days passed without hearing from her.



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
On Sunday I suggested getting together early next week. I haven't heard anything back yet.

I'm sorry, but the cynic in me suggests she may be playing around with you a bit. I mean if you really like someone enough to want to meet up with them then surely you would make sure you got back to them quickly - not in a few days. Personally I check my email inbox several times a day(as I'm sure do most people this day and age.)

And you say she is entertaining guests,ok fair enough but does that mean she does not have 10 minutes to log into her email and contact you....  Confused

However I could be totally wrong and perhaps she is just really busy.

As for your situation of going crazy well yes,women will do that to you! Like others have said my only advice is to try and keep yourself busy with a hobby or something.

Good luck though and I hope she gets back to you soon. Let us know what happens.
 
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:32 pm

I agree with the others- find something to distract you and fill your time. For me (until my camera started giving me problems back in March), that activity is plane spotting/photography (what a shock!).

Every situation in which I was really stressed- breakups, big decisions- I would go to SAN or LAX or BOS when I lived out there, and just spent a few hours by myself. I would be relaxed, I would be having fun, and ultimately it would allow me to make a better decision or get over the girl a lot easier.

That's just my example. Plus I know from experience how frustrating online dating can be. I hate exchanging emails because to me, i'd rather talk about and learn about the girl on a date. Of course, I understand most women (rightfully) won't want to meet you without talking to you a little first, so it does add an extra element of stress to the whole process.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:37 pm



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 6):
I'm sorry, but the cynic in me suggests she may be playing around with you a bit

I'm generally very pessimistic; it's a trait that I'm trying to lessen -- I also tend to err on the side of being paranoid, which I'm also trying to reduce. I really don't get the sense she's playing around with me. It's possible, but I'd like to think otherwise.

Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 6):
And you say she is entertaining guests,ok fair enough but does that mean she does not have 10 minutes to log into her email and contact you....

However I could be totally wrong and perhaps she is just really busy.

To each their own; personally I frequently check on email, etc., when I have guests but some of my friends go completely off-grid (no phone, no email, no texting) when they have company [along the lines of "You are my guest, you are the sole focus of my attention and I can deal with everything else later].

Maybe I'm making excuses, but between that and professional obligations, while I'm anxious I'm not overly worried at this point.

I definitely get the impression that if she were completely uninterested I would know.

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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:49 pm



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 8):

I'm generally very pessimistic

Yes I am guilty of that too. Sadly though my experience with a lot of women has taught me to "always expect the worst".  Silly

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 8):

I definitely get the impression that if she were completely uninterested I would know.

Of course you are in a much better position to make that judgement that I am and I hope all go's well with her.

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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:45 pm



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
But my behavior is starting to concern me -- I'm checking email impulsively (despite knowing that I shouldn't expect to hear anything monday, today, or even possibly tomorrow), I'm loosing sleep, I'm running through conversation topics in my head, among other things...how not to play "20 questions" about her tallent [because, of course, there is far more to her], if political topics are verbotten on the first get together** even though we both say that we like good discussions..., if the fact that she's a little older than other women I've dated should affect my behavior at all) all for something that isn't even gaurnteed to happen yet.

So what you're saying is that you are a man who is suddenly very intrigued with a woman and the fact that your behavior is not completely rational about the matter is bothersome to you.

Um. Yeah. That happens, dude. Have you DONE anything stupid other than check your E-mail (like send her 20 of them?). If not, then the private actions and thoughts you perform are just that--private. When your PUBLIC behavior starts to be a problem, or you're afraid it might be, then you have a problem.

You're a bit smitten, dude. Enjoy the feeling and don't screw it up by being anxious. If it's a match to be, trust me, it's a match to be.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:31 pm



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
She's slightly older than I had in mind

Always go older, man. I am 25 and my girlfriend turns 29 on Saturday, that's the way to go  Wink We met when I was 21 and she was 25, and hit it off immediately.

Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
But my behavior is starting to concern me -- I'm checking email impulsively (despite knowing that I shouldn't expect to hear anything monday, today, or even possibly tomorrow), I'm loosing sleep, I'm running through conversation topics in my head,



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
Uh... this can not be healthy

You're excited, that's fine. The key is to, when you meet her, treat it like it is nothing...like you've been too busy to think of her. That way, she isn't overwhelmed and scared off.
 
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:53 am



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 4):
Some of them that's kind of ovbious, others they come off as raving Browns/Cavs/Indians fanatics (remember, this is Cleveland... and [native] Clevelanders of all shapes, sizes, ages, and genders are incredibly passionate about their sports teams)

Wait, are you from Cleveland? Is she? If that's the case, considering where you're going this week, and it seems you spend quite some time there:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 4):
I'm driving to Pittsburgh this afternoon

You are one brave soul! In that respect it's a good thing she isn't a sports fan!  Wink  duck  (just funnin' with ya!)

I do wish you the best of luck with this tho, man! Try not to let this stuff get to ya tho...

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
Um. Yeah. That happens, dude. Have you DONE anything stupid other than check your E-mail (like send her 20 of them?). If not, then the private actions and thoughts you perform are just that--private. When your PUBLIC behavior starts to be a problem, or you're afraid it might be, then you have a problem.

You're a bit smitten, dude. Enjoy the feeling and don't screw it up by being anxious. If it's a match to be, trust me, it's a match to be.

I don't think I could've given better advice than this!
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:56 am



Quoting SW733 (Reply 11):
Always go older, man. I am 25 and my girlfriend turns 29 on Saturday, that's the way to go Wink We met when I was 21 and she was 25, and hit it off immediately.

Just curious, why do you think older is better? I'm not saying it's bad, but I don't think going younger is necessarily bad either.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:21 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 12):
You are one brave soul! In that respect it's a good thing she isn't a sports fan! (just funnin' with ya!)

I'm quietly very appreciative that I still have CA plates on my car  Wink By the way, it's actually quite a nice walk from the hotel (in the Strip District) to 3PNC...I'm thinking of not moving my car.

We are both currently located in greater Cleveland [and quite possibly very close to each other], as far as I can tell, neither of us are native Clevelanders -- I'm a Californian, and I'm guessing based on some of what she's said that she's also a transport (see also my earlier comment about Clevelanders of all shapes/sizes/genders being rabid sports fans)

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
You're a bit smitten, dude. Enjoy the feeling and don't screw it up by being anxious. If it's a match to be, trust me, it's a match to be.



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 12):
don't think I could've given better advice than this!

I really am rather enjoying the somewhat euphoric feeling... I've definately caught myself smiling more, have an extra little bounce in my step, etc. I really am hoping for the best, but the pesamistic/fear of the uncertain side of my personality is starting to creep back out.

This afternoon, though, I walked from the hotel in the Strip District to 3PNC, and a couple weeks ago I wandered around a large swath of downtown PHL with no issues so the "avoid the uncertain" part of the personality is definately waning

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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:46 am

Put some trance songs on and relax. Do some housework. Play some video games (I don't like them but they are great as mindless distractions).

You already sound curious/interested in her and that's pretty much all you need. Forget discussion topics. Talk about her (and she will ask about you). What kind of discussion topics anyways?

Make it fun by not being afraid to smile or letting her see you smile. It makes it more comfortable for you and her to loosen up.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:52 am



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
Any other advice...

I usually don't advice about dating/relationships/girl issues, but I just think you are being over-anxious. Calm down and don't take everything so seriously.

Oh and just so that you know:

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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:33 am



Quoting BA (Reply 13):
Just curious, why do you think older is better? I'm not saying it's bad, but I don't think going younger is necessarily bad either.

I was always more mature than most guys my age...all through high school and the first part of college I dated younger...always...never once even made out with an older girl. Always full of stupid drama...they were supposed to be more mature than me even though they were younger, and they never ever were. At 25, that's still the case. My girlfriend, just shy of 29, is independent, hard-working, doesn't need me but wants me, and has a straight head. When I met her at the age of 21 (almost 22) I knew she was the one, so I am a bit biased towards older  Smile Out of all my friends, I only have one who goes older like I do, and he says the same things, he is also 25 and very, very happy with his 27 year old.
 
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:55 am

Hey Lincoln,

You're situation and ways of thinking are very familar to me. This whole "too good to be true" thought process. I too am very anxious. One thing I found out is, unlike me (and many others here), a lot of women that I've contacted just aren't into checking their email/dating website(s) as often as I am. Just not high on their priority list. I sit at a computer all day at work and check my email 5-6 times a day. I have also noticed a lot of people do the "I'll read it and reply later" routine, so maybe its that?
As others have said, you are very intersted in her and its normal. Be happy for yourself! Try not to be "too" into her at this point, online it may seem great but in person you may be clawing for things to talk about. Just be yourself and good luck. Please let us know how it goes. As always, I love updates.
 
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:09 pm



Quoting KLM672 (Reply 18):
One thing I found out is, unlike me (and many others here), a lot of women that I've contacted just aren't into checking their email/dating website(s) as often as I am. Just not high on their priority list. I sit at a computer all day at work and check my email 5-6 times a day. I have also noticed a lot of people do the "I'll read it and reply later" routine, so maybe its that?

I'm  crossfingers  that this is the case... Between this and stress at work (we're building new office space which is a little behind schedule... but we're still moving next week...and my plate was already full with external projects) I'm kind of in that really uncomfortable "time is flying but time is standing still" place where it's like "Oh, I haven't checked my email in a long time"... only to realize I last checked it less than an hour ago/"Wow, I haven't heard from her in a long time..." only to realize that in reality it's only been a handful of days.

Part of the reason I'm so...smitten as DocLightning put it...is because I though we had a lot in common (as if her profile was written by the slightly more liberal, female version of myself, a feeling I haven't really had to date) at first...and then when I found out more about her... I really want to meet her face-to-face and find out if it's worth persuing and if she feels the same way.
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:21 pm

Yeah, I would try your best not to think too much about her. Perhaps its just me and my luck but I've been in your shoes (and vice versa, her in your shoes even) and then once we meet its a "uhhh ok how what do we talk about" as both of us play with our food. Ok, maybe I am irritating the situation here but are you guys on one of those sites where you can see where she last logged in? Is she logging in but not responding to you?--Even with that though, it could go back to the "I'll read and reply later".
 
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RE: I'm Driving Myself Crazy

Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:53 am

Hi,
Any update on your story?

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