plateman
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Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:01 pm

Help...I'm looking to get way in early September and stuck between two places: Ottawa and Denver/Colorado Springs. You helped me pick my last place - Vancouver - and I had a great time, so I figured let's try again.

Both are very similar in what I'm looking to do, though Ottawa seems to be on a grander stage. Ex: Canadian Parliament v. Colo Statehouse. Ottawa has hot air Balloon festival, Denver has the taste of colo.

Colo Springs stands out as having US Olympic Training Facility and the mountains and I'm a big Olympic nut. But then Im worried about the altitude

Since this is airliners.net ... getting there...Denver would have me on Frontier (how are they) and then renting a car. Ottawa would be a JetBlue flight to Syracuse, then driving the rest. Ottawa comes out a little cheaper on that end but more expensive on hotels.

So..we're from all over the world and great travelers...where would you go and why?

Thanks for any help.

Brian

[Edited 2009-08-05 08:08:02]
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Arrow
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:17 pm



Quoting PlateMan (Thread starter):
Getting there...Denver would have me on Frontier (how are they) and then renting a car. Ottawa would be a JetBlue flight to Syracuse, then driving the rest. Ottawa comes out a little cheaper on that end.

Why don't you fly to Ottawa? Or either Toronto or Montreal and rent a car? I don't get Syracuse.

Quoting PlateMan (Thread starter):
So..we're from all over the world and great travelers...where would you go and why?

Certainly an interesting contrast. Ottawa (I lived there for a year) is full of interesting history and it's very pretty. There's lots of bike paths all over the place and it's easy to head over the river into the Gatineau. Only drawback (and it's why I left) is there are no mountains worthy of the name for a few thousand miles.

Denver is close enough to the Rockies that you can get to some spectacular scenery, but the city itself isn't that special-- a bit of a sprawl. I've been there a few times, but not recently.

I can't see myself busting a gut to get to either one of these places, frankly. And by September, the "cheap" Canadian dollar might not be cheap any more -- it's almost at par now.

How did you arrive at these two choices? I'd fly to Calgary and go into the Rockies from there -- and at that time of year the weather will still be sort of like summer.
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plateman
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:32 pm

Thanks Arrow for the quick response. Reason for Syracuse, flights to Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto are super expensive from NYC (over $600 r/t). Syracuse is only $120 and then $200 for a car and a 3hr drive each way, not bad.

Quoting Arrow (Reply 1):

How did you arrive at these two choices? I'd fly to Calgary and go into the Rockies from there -- and at that time of year the weather will still be sort of like summer.

I've been to most major US and Canadian cities so looking for something compact and different. I'll be going a Saturday through Wednesday. Thanks again.
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:08 pm

Love Colorado and highly recommend it. Spent the last 7 months in Denver and the next three weeks in the mountains. Tons to do, great people, great food, great scenery. Never been to Ottawa.

In the end, though, I recommend the Colorado mountains. If you get up high enough you'll have the aspens starting to change colors, the air will be nice, cool, and crisp, and, really, nothing beats the mountains. Hike around, go climbing, visit Mt. Princeton hot springs (NOT Idaho Springs, it is a craphole), etc. If you decide to come to Colorado, send me a pm and I'll tell you some cool places to go, depending on what you want to do.

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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:29 pm



Quoting PlateMan (Reply 2):
Thanks Arrow for the quick response. Reason for Syracuse, flights to Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto are super expensive from NYC (over $600 r/t). Syracuse is only $120 and then $200 for a car and a 3hr drive each way, not bad.

I know of a few people that have done the reverse (Ottawa to SYR for flights) and it's not a bad idea. I81 is rght at SYR and its a straight shot to the Thousand Islands bridge, then 401 and 416 to Ottawa. 3.5-4 hours with the border crossing would be more realistic time wise but it's not a bad drive. You can also stop at the thousand islands, they are a very nice spot for a few hours and take a river cruise.

Ottawa has LOTS to see, some of the best museums in North America including the worth seeing Canadian Aviation Museum http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/ .

Denver... i've only passed through so i can't really comment on it.
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:31 pm

*** OTTAWA ***

Admittedly, I have a bias towards Ottawa, but it is honestly a GREAT town for tourists! For all the reason NorthStarDC4M mentioned, but just hanging out at Byward Market in the summer is a blast. Lots of bars, lots of patios, lots of great spots to eat.

Believe it or not, it's even more fun in the dead of winter with the frozen canal, sugar-and-maple soaked beaver-tails, "Winterlude" - Ottawa's Winter Festival, and Mount Tremblant so close for great skiing.

People are genuinely friendly and it's just a fun place to walk around. Helpful tip: stay as close to the parliament buildings as you can. You can walk ANYWHERE from there.

AND if you get bored of Ottawa, give a cab driver $10 and drive to Gatineau (formerly Hull). If you're into casinos Chateau Lac Lemay is impressive and Quebeckers are always fun to party with.

As for getting there, I'm surprised it's not easier/cheaper to fly straight into YOW ... even with a connecting flight.

Either way, enjoy your vacation!

G
 
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:35 pm



Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 5):
beaver-tails,

...and before anyone reports me to PETA, they're not REAL beaver tails....  Wink

http://www.beavertailsinc.com/

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us330
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:17 am

I'm not familiar with Ottawa, so I won't comment.
As someone who has frequented Colorado Springs and Denver, neither has much to offer. Colorado Springs is fine for a day trip to see the AF academy, Cheyenne Mountain, Pikes Peak, and the Broadmoor, but there really isn't a whole lot there. US Olympic Training center is somewhat overrated.
There's stuff to do in Denver, but not anything truly unique. If you are going to schlep out to Colorado, skip Denver and COS and head for the mountains for some world class hiking, mountain biking and scenery, and some rather unique towns ie Aspen, Breckenridge, Telluride, Ouray. It's unbelievably beautiful.
 
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:29 am



Quoting Arrow (Reply 1):
Why don't you fly to Ottawa? Or either Toronto or Montreal and rent a car? I don't get Syracuse.

Even people from here travel to Syracuse for cheap flights....We can save hundreds....

Being from Ottawa I am biased....another good part is if you get bored Montreal is just 170 km east of us...and if you are lucky you can get a return train ticket for under $100

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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:03 am

I have been to both Colorado Springs and Ottawa, and I would recommend Ottawa (granted I may be a bit biased  Wink. As mentioned before, being the capital, there is lots to do- Parliament (a beautiful building with lots of history, the library is a must see), Canadian War Museum, Royal Canadian Mint, Supreme Court of Canada, Museum of Natural History, ByWard Market (one of Canada's oldest and largest outdoor markets)- to name a few. Also, for a bit of French flavor Quebec is very close to go for a night out and a poutine.

I was in Colorado Springs at the Air Force Academy for a student conference in 2007. It is a nice enough city with some beautiful scenery but hardly comparable to Ottawa.

Overall, what are you looking for in your trip?- relax? 'touristy' type stuff?
 
plateman
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:09 pm



Quoting Us330 (Reply 7):
As someone who has frequented Colorado Springs and Denver, neither has much to offer



Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Reply 9):
I have been to both Colorado Springs and Ottawa, and I would recommend Ottawa

That seems to be the general feeling. and you Canadians really love your country. Ottawa seems to be winning out, I plan on booking either this weekend.
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RE: Help! Ottawa Or Denver/Colo Springs?

Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:05 pm

I also have never been to Colorado Springs, but I have lived in Ottawa, and it does have a lot to offer. The Gatineaus are only a few minutes away from downtown and have great camping/canoeing/hiking. There are a tonne of great museums (particularly recommend Aviation Museum and Museum of Civilization). The Byward Market is a great neighbourhood and the downtown quite compact, so great for walking around. The Rideau Canal is a nice place for evening strolls/bike rides, but better in the winter. It's not really a high octane sort of place, if you're looking for a party, Montreal would be a better option. It is beautiful and scenic though.

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