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Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:10 am

Well well well, everyone is now going to report on President Obama's 200 days in office. I guess he is going to get another "report card." I just like to say a few things, Obama is a great outstanding President. It will take a lot of patients to recover from this bad recession. The American people need to understand that its not just Obama's job for the economy to recover. Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too. Congress, other government agencies, etc. are all in this together no matter what. If there is no bipartisanship, then forget about recovery and health care reform. If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity, like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and other stuff that is not a necessity, then that American should not complain or give Obama a bad rating. Its time for ordinary Americans in this country, that is the middle class to start thinking clearly, become more meticulous, patient, and financially responsibile if THEY want to see a change in their life. You cant just point fingers at one man. President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.'
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:38 am



Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.

Better take it easy on that kool-aide. It's gonna bite you on the ass!
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:09 am

I support Obama, but I am still feeling like I am, "wait and see". My ultimate fear is that some of his policies are so "liberal" that growing conservative dissent will result in him not being elected for a second term. And I feel that a health care bill is so significant that it should not be rushed, even though it is a very pertinent issue.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:08 am



Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):

 thumbsup   thumbsup 

Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
The American people need to understand that its not just Obama's job for the economy to recover. Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too

Exactly, things aren't going to change overnight, it will take time and probably some of the measures might start to give out it's fruits when he is out of office ( say 2016 Big grin )

Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity

But... me buying a few GeminiJets 1:400 model planes is helping the economy a bit right??? Big grin it's a necessity!

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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:14 pm



Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity, like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and other stuff that is not a necessity, then that American should not complain or give Obama a bad rating.

How about applying for a mortgage you can't afford, and then having the American people pay it for you? That's being MORE irresponsible IMO. YOUR mortgage is not MY problem.

Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too. Congress, other government agencies, etc. are all in this together no matter what.

We're all in this together? That would work if this president was actually FOR individual responsibility. Having everyone carry their own weight. Instead, he wants to penalize and tax working people so people that don't work, and don't want to can get everything for free.

Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
You cant just point fingers at one man.

I'll agree with you there. I'll point my fingers at Pelosi and Reid too.

Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 1):
Better take it easy on that kool-aide. It's gonna bite you on the ass!

You got that right. This guy's got himself a Super-Sized cup of Obama kool-aid!
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:18 pm



Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
Obama is a great outstanding President.

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Agreed!
So far 1 Republican Senator switched to the Democratic Party (Arlen Specter) and his first US Supreme Court nominee has just been confirmed. I wish him luck on getting health-care passed, turning the economy around, success in Afghanistan and cleaning up Bush's mess in Iraq.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:30 pm



Quoting Thebatman (Reply 4):
How about applying for a mortgage you can't afford, and then having the American people pay it for you? That's being MORE irresponsible IMO. YOUR mortgage is not MY problem.

What does that have to do with Obama? It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama.
I agree that it's irresponsible, but it's just as irresponsible for a company to give you a mortgage you can't afford. How about instead of blaming people and companies for the problems we had we instead focus on making sure it doesn't happen again?
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:43 pm



Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 1):
Better take it easy on that kool-aide. It's gonna bite you on the ass!

Way pass that.

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 2):
I support Obama, but I am still feeling like I am, "wait and see". My ultimate fear is that some of his policies are so "liberal" that growing conservative dissent will result in him not being elected for a second term. And I feel that a health care bill is so significant that it should not be rushed, even though it is a very pertinent issue.

He is going to lose relection because of his own deeds. Not the GOP attitude toward him, though that will be the excuse.

Quoting Max550 (Reply 6):
It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama

Oh so your telling me if Bush refused Obama would have not done it the second he got in office?  sarcastic 

Only reason Bush did it was he knew the DNC would have as soon as he left and laid the whole mess on him.
Hey that guy with the private jet can bail us out! Why? HE CAN AFFORD IT!
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:48 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Oh so your telling me if Bush refused Obama would have not done it the second he got in office? sarcastic

So why did Bush do it then? If its a failed policy.. why did he do it?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):

Only reason Bush did it was he knew the DNC would have as soon as he left and laid the whole mess on him.

Because he is Martyr?!!!

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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:10 pm



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 8):
So why did Bush do it then? If its a failed policy.. why did he do it?

I never said it was failed, in fact it made sense to bail out the banks because the risk that they would become profitable again quickly was low though any of the money we gave GM was a waste.

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 8):
Because he is Martyr?!!!

I have heard everything!

No, stop spinning this. Bush did it because #1 he knew Obama would do it anyway and #2 if he didn't the DNC would have villified him even more and used him as an excuse when their stimilus fails.
Hey that guy with the private jet can bail us out! Why? HE CAN AFFORD IT!
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:11 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Oh so your telling me if Bush refused Obama would have not done it the second he got in office?

From the way Paulsen and Bernanke were talking, that opportunity wouldn't have existed for Obama. Whether he would have or not is irrelevant. At the time it was passed nobody knew Obama would be the next president. Don't try to blame Obama for this one, Bush pushed for it and McCain and Obama voted for it.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Only reason Bush did it was he knew the DNC would have as soon as he left and laid the whole mess on him.

That's the only reason he did it? This whole speech was a lie? http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008...ush_warns_of_dire_consequence.html
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:17 pm

Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
Well well well, everyone is now going to report on President Obama's 200 days in office. I guess he is going to get another "report card." I just like to say a few things, Obama is a great outstanding President. It will take a lot of patients to recover from this bad recession. The American people need to understand that its not just Obama's job for the economy to recover. Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too. Congress, other government agencies, etc. are all in this together no matter what. If there is no bipartisanship, then forget about recovery and health care reform. If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity, like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and other stuff that is not a necessity, then that American should not complain or give Obama a bad rating. Its time for ordinary Americans in this country, that is the middle class to start thinking clearly, become more meticulous, patient, and financially responsibile if THEY want to see a change in their life. You cant just point fingers at one man. President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.'

Someone has had far too much Kool-aid.

Liberaly dominated CNN viewers gave him a C and he had a B 100 days ago.

http://reportcard.cnn.com/


Quoting Max550 (Reply 6):
What does that have to do with Obama? It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama.

Really? Barney Frank had nothing to do with this?

[Edited 2009-08-07 10:20:26]
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:26 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9):
I never said it was failed, in fact it made sense to bail out the banks because the risk that they would become profitable again quickly was low though any of the money we gave GM was a waste.



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9):
No, stop spinning this. Bush did it because #1 he knew Obama would do it anyway and #2 if he didn't the DNC would have villified him even more and used him as an excuse when their stimilus fails.

So it made sense to bail out the banks, but only because Obama would do it anyway and the DNC would have vilified him for not doing it when their stimulus failed, which hadn't been proposed yet.  Confused
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:27 pm

He started with tremendous changes. Somehow I feel he tried to change too much too fast. Maybe he should reduce the pace a bit.
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:29 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9):
No, stop spinning this.

Your words not mines..

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9):
. Bush did it because #1 he knew Obama would do it anyway and #2 if he didn't the DNC would have villified him even more and used him as an excuse when their stimilus fails.

So he did it only to save face then? LOL - how very Presidential of him!
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:32 pm



Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13):
He started with tremendous changes. Somehow I feel he tried to change too much too fast. Maybe he should reduce the pace a bit.

And that would be my criticism of Obama. Most of them very important, but there is no need to take on 100 issues at once.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:35 pm



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 11):
Quoting Max550 (Reply 6):
What does that have to do with Obama? It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama.

Really? Barney Frank had nothing to do with this?

Is Barney Frank Barack Obama? You're trying to disprove my statement, but it's a fact that under Bush the financial companies were bailed out, not Barack Obama or Barney Frank.

I must be forgetting the part where Barney Frank forced the President, Treasury and Federal Reserve to push Congress for the bailout package.
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:38 pm

Love the CNN poll that said after the first 3 months Obama is a bigger (37%) failure compared to Dubya's (32%) in office.  stirthepot 


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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:10 pm



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 15):
And that would be my criticism of Obama. Most of them very important, but there is no need to take on 100 issues at once.

Exactly, because quite a lot of the changes allowed for some slower pace. The only exemption for me is Guantanamo. That was a great PR stunt.
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:19 pm



Quoting Fxramper (Reply 17):
Love the CNN poll that said after the first 3 months Obama is a bigger (37%) failure compared to Dubya's (32%) in office.

Hmm ... the Clinton News Network still seems to have a little bias ... Maybe they still want Hillary in office and Bill as the SOS (noting his recent successful trip to N. Korea and meeting with their leader.)


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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:35 pm



Quoting Fxramper (Reply 17):
Love the CNN poll that said after the first 3 months Obama is a bigger (37%) failure compared to Dubya's (32%) in office.

Well, you need to realize that the first six months of Bush's leadership were filled with nothing. Bush's downfall didn't really start until after the Iraq war started. I don't see this as significant at all. The man inherited an impossible situation that will not be solved in six months. These polls were always biased, even when Bush was president, and if I were you, I wouldn't follow them. Asking 1,000 americans to speak on behalf of about 195 million adult american citizens, is worthless, IMHO.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:44 pm

Okay so Obama got a C on his next report card, who cares, he doesnt care, because he knows that he is doing his best and that he's trying everything he can. Listen it was the lack of patients that caused the worlds deadliest aviation disaster in March of 1977 at Tenerife airport in the Canary Islands when one man, one man, thats right, one man Captain Van Zantan did not have patients and was in a hurry to his final destination, that was death on his KLM Boeing 747. So patients will always be a virtue, so if people dont be patient, then it will only be worse for them.
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:48 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 20):
Asking 1,000 americans to speak on behalf of about 195 million adult american citizens, is worthless, IMHO.

The methods that are used to account for the polling are perfectly fine. Research 101.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:37 pm



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 22):
The methods that are used to account for the polling are perfectly fine. Research 101.

Ohhh please, a communications research professor at my university says in no way are they accurate to national opinions, and i'm sure hundreds of other researchers would agree with him.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:56 pm



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):


Agreed!
So far 1 Republican Senator switched to the Democratic Party (Arlen Specter) and his first US Supreme Court nominee has just been confirmed. I wish him luck on getting health-care passed, turning the economy around, success in Afghanistan and cleaning up Bush's mess in Iraq.

He will do nothing of the sort in Iraq. Iraq's defining moment was in 2007 with the awaking groups and the troop surge. THAT is what has been successful over there; not anything Obama will do during his term.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:54 pm



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 11):
Liberaly dominated CNN viewers gave him a C and he had a B 100 days ago.

What was even better was that Congress was given a "D."

I'm taking a wait and see attitude right now with him. I was skeptical of him right up to the election (I just couldn't see past the guy's lack of experience, and I just didn't get why people were so enraptured with the guy, making him out to be some sort of demigod). I do not want the guy to fail, but I think he has gone a bit too far too fast with a lot of his programs, a fair number of which I don't particularly agree with.

Washington is as still as partisan as ever, and the Democrats are showing that they can be just as bad as the Republicans in that regard. He really needs to rein in the Democratic leadership, especially Pelosi, Boxer, and Reid.
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:50 am

Obama ranks a low "D" in my opinion.

He is currently waging a war on the health care system
Sent signals of weakness to the islamist facists we are currently fighting.
Capitulated to the DPRK this week
Has been getting a free ride on the economy.
Spent more money drunkenly the crew off the USS Enterprise on a 3 day Hong Kong shore leave from Yankee Station

I am only afraid that it is getting worse.

But the good news is that his approval ratings are going down so hopefully that means that more americans are seeing him for the Schmuk that he is.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:17 am



Quoting L-188 (Reply 26):
Obama ranks a low "D" in my opinion.

Somebody else that sees President False Hope for who he really is. Hopefully the rest of America will follow.
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:19 am

It's only a matter of time til the Kool-Aid runs dry. Maybe April 15, 2010 will be a wake-up call.
 
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RE: Obama's 200 Days!

Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:34 pm



Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter):
President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.'

So do tell us how your life is better since Mr. Hope and Change arrived.

A++, huh.

Economy still in the tank. Yes
Unemployment still in the tank. Yes, and still increasing.
Deficit blown WAY out of the water, and nothing to show for it. Yes
Government Spending under control. No
Race division going away? Nope
Bipartisanship better? Nope
More Transparent Government (like promised). Nope
Oh, -and wait-, the best one. Approval ratings dropping? YES


While not everything he has done is bad, the big ones are complete failures, yet you give him an A++. Seriously, don't you think for that kind of rating everything should be fixed? Don't you think his initial approval rate would be increasing?

Take the blinders off and look at the real picture.
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