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English Premiership 2009-2010

Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:03 pm

First Saturday of the season and we have the strange situation that 6 sides won away from home. Arsenal lead the way with a thumping 6-1 win at Everton. What price Everton's Joleon Lescott now? I'll put a bid in of 3 milk bottle tops which I think may be the best offer they'll get this week.

Manchester Galacticos won at Blackburn with Adebayor registering after 3 minutes. Ominously, Burnley and Wolves lost. Could be long season ahead of them.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:44 pm

I watched Chelsea - Hull City match. Drogba survived his team on the last minutes... Smile Not a great start for the Blues though.

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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:45 pm



Quoting David_itl (Thread starter):
Manchester Galacticos won at Blackburn with Adebayor registering after 3 minutes. Ominously, Burnley and Wolves lost. Could be long season ahead of them.

Was funny watching Wigan being written off by the pundits on Sky Sports News, just before beating Aston Villa 2-0 away........ a good start for them.

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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:06 pm

Today's games saw Man Utd beat Birmingham with a Rooney goal and Spurs beating Liverpool 2-1 - anyone who went to the bookies with naming Assou-Ekotto and Bassong as goalscorers would now be sitting on a considerable fortune. Sammy Lee has received the first sending off this season.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:07 pm

That was a good result down at spurs Liverpool won't ever win the the league.Berbatov was his usual crap self how Fergie ever thought he was worth 30 mill I'll never know and Owen didn't do much good either when he came on, cant really see him making much of an impact this year his best days are behind him.
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:37 pm

Not a good start to the year for my Villans: 2-0 defeat against Wigan. Hope springs eternal, however, in the human breast.

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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:45 pm

Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea!!! Drogba is going to be huge this year. He's healthy Anelka is healthy and the rest of the team looks pretty solid. I expect Chelsea to win the premiership this year, although i'm sure Real Madrid will win the UEFA cup
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:57 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea!!!

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Liverpool disappointed his fans just in the start of this season. Lost 2 - 1 against Spurs.
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:57 pm

nice start to the new season, quite a few of the new signings managed to score on their debuts.

Spurs were pretty impressive, nice to see after their poor start last year. What the hell happened to Liverpool, they didnt even turn up!

As for Man Utds signings, Valencia looks like he could be promising in a few years time - he had quite a few chances and was making some good runs, but each time his final touch let him down a bit. Ronaldo was the same when he joined, a few seasons with the man utd coaches and he could soon be a pretty decent player!

Owen had a fairly good chance in the limited time he played, he looked fairly sharp, but again was lacking the final touch. If he can avoid getting injury I think he might do quite well.

Great to see Sunderland off to a good start Big grin
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:20 pm

Come on you Spurs.............Great result  bouncy 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:39 pm

With major player shuffling in almost all major clubs, I generally think it will be an interesting season. Gotta start following it again, Arsenal seems to have gotten a good start.
 
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:06 am

It's going to be closer this year than last. Man Utd regardless of who is in their team will always compete, they're absolute masters at getting results in all situations. Chelsea look a solid outfit (assuming that after the first couple of bad results Abramovich doesn't pointlessly tinker with his plaything.) Arsenal will be there or thereabouts and Liverpool will plod on despite losing Alonso who really really made them tick. Rafa could also do with keeping his emotions in check, Wenger learnt that years ago.

As as West Ham fan I just hope for a top half finish. It'd be blinding if we could finish above the mid table merchants that buy themselves half a new team every season (Yep, Spurs and Man City) but all in all it's going to be fun. I'd tip Pompey, Burnley and Wolves for the drop. The latter for their very average manager, the middle just because they don't have the resources and the former because they have absolutely no talent left down there.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:19 am



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 11):
As as West Ham fan I just hope for a top half finish. It'd be blinding if we could finish above the mid table merchants that buy themselves half a new team every season (Yep, Spurs and Man City)

As a Wigan fan, can I join that gang please?  Smile

Still, so long as they keep buying players off us for considerable fees, and then not delivering the goods with them, I guess we should be grateful,  duck 

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
Valencia looks like he could be promising in a few years time

Was a fabulous buy for us (and sale I guess). He was a very firm favourite at what was the JJB.  thumbsup 

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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:13 pm



Quoting Astuteman (Reply 12):
As a Wigan fan, can I join that gang please? Smile

Still, so long as they keep buying players off us for considerable fees, and then not delivering the goods with them, I guess we should be grateful,

Sure! I'm just waiting for Bellamy to kick off up there and wind everyone up and with all the 'personalities' up there I can see it going off.

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 12):
Was a fabulous buy for us (and sale I guess). He was a very firm favourite at what was the JJB

Yeah, changing the name to the DW stadium. Always a little egotistical if you ask me regardless of what you've done for the club.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:53 pm

Arsenal lead the way with a thumping 6-1 win at Everton.

I enjoyed that massacre, but being realistic it's a one off result, most games will be a lot closer, i just hope we can last the season and not peak too early.

Quoting David_itl (Thread starter):
What price Everton's Joleon Lescott now? I'll put a bid in of 3 milk bottle tops which I think may be the best offer they'll get this week

It's ridiculous how overpriced he's become just because he's in the England squad and had one good season, oh yeah he's English! Lescott's good, but £10 million max for me, fee's of £22 mil are only reserved for genuine world class players.
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:04 pm



Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 14):
It's ridiculous how overpriced he's become just because he's in the England squad and had one good season, oh yeah he's English! Lescott's good, but £10 million max for me, fee's of £22 mil are only reserved for genuine world class players.

Ridiculous isn't it, Lescott really doesn't convince me that much. Still Man City will continue to inflate the transfer market. They can stay away from Upson as well.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:24 pm



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 11):
mid table merchants that buy themselves half a new team every season (Yep, Spurs and Man City)

Yeah, you would hate actually having money to buy players rather than being our feeder club, right?
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:27 pm

Man Utd will win the league again, Nani will turn into the new Ronaldo.  Wink

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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:14 pm



Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 16):
Yeah, you would hate actually having money to buy players rather than being our feeder club, right?

Assuming you're a Spurs fan, I'm pretty sure the last player we sold you was Carrick in 2004, 5 years ago now! Yep it would be nice to have a bit more cash but then again it doesn't seem to be doing us that much harm in comparison. We spend very little and finish 9th-10th, Spurs spend fortunes buying their old players back with similar results. Also I've enjoyed over the years seeing the likes of Cole, Ferdinand, Carrick, Lampard, Defoe and now Noble, Collison and Tomkins come through. I get more enjoyment out of seeing home grown players come through that buying mercenaries, and as I said at the moment our respective league positions don't show all of Spurs' massive investment to be worth it.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:58 pm



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 18):
I'm pretty sure the last player we sold you was Carrick in 2004

Honestly, I meant to change to change 'our' to 'a' as I thought I was being a bit cheeky and forgot, but that was a fair riposte!

Quoting Davehammer (Reply 18):
We spend very little and finish 9th-10th, Spurs spend fortunes buying their old players back with similar results.

You must remember that a lot of the extra spending came after finishing fifth twice on the trot (including Lasagne-gate - Your not a chef are you Dave  scratchchin  ) in the hope of actually breaking into the top four. What the extra money actually means is that when the board wanted Redknapp they went and got him and when Redknapp wanted players he got them which produced a squad that overhauled a 20+ points advantage you had to finish above yourselves. Is mid-table enough return for what we have spent? Of course not, but our squad is getting better and more balanced as time goes on, something I doubt you can honestly say.

BTW you just sold Collins to Stoke.

Quoting Davehammer (Reply 18):
I get more enjoyment out of seeing home grown players come through that buying mercenaries,

So would I, but that isn't the reality anymore.



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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:04 pm

NOOOO!!!!!!! Sunderland just scored.

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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:36 pm

wow half time

Sunderland 1 - 0 Chelsea
Wolves 1 - 0 Wigan
Celtic 0 - 1 Arsenal

and wtf shevchenko's back at chelsea i didn't know about that thought he was still at milan?
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:15 pm



Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 19):
You must remember that a lot of the extra spending came after finishing fifth twice on the trot (including Lasagne-gate - Your not a chef are you Dave scratchchin ) in the hope of actually breaking into the top four. What the extra money actually means is that when the board wanted Redknapp they went and got him and when Redknapp wanted players he got them which produced a squad that overhauled a 20+ points advantage you had to finish above yourselves. Is mid-table enough return for what we have spent? Of course not, but our squad is getting better and more balanced as time goes on, something I doubt you can honestly say.

That is true. Arry is a canny bloke that knows how to get the best out of players, particularly in difficult situations. However the Spurs board would probably do well to remember that once he gets his feet under the table he often gets quite a few 'Arry special deals that alert the footballing authorities. The thing that irritates my friends that are Spurs season ticket holders is that since the two 5th placed finishes that Daniel Levy has been constantly throwing good money after bad, what on earth was the point in bringing back Chimbonda? Looks like 'Arry is turning you into a more solid outfit though, you just need to find a way to keep the two glass centrebacks fit for more than 5 mins at a time!

As far as our squad goes it's okay and Zola does a good job under the circumstances. There's some excellent players in there - Green, Upson, Parker, C Cole, Behrami. Some excellent youth in Tomkins, Stanislas, Collison and Noble and some solid pros in Ilunga, Jiminez and Gabbidon. We've finally rid ourselves of the dregs like Bowyer thank heavens who simply cluttered the place. As far as Collins goes I'm not surprised. He's not Zola's first choice and has the turning circle of a bus. He hasn't improved as much as we hoped so £5m will finance the Chemakh deal with any luck!

Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 19):
So would I, but that isn't the reality anymore.

Not as easy as it was definitely but last season I saw 3 players from our youth set up break into the first team. Tomkins and Stanislas now an England U21 and Collison a full Welsh international.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:08 pm



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 22):
However the Spurs board would probably do well to remember that once he gets his feet under the table he often gets quite a few 'Arry special deals that alert the footballing authorities.

You forget we had Venables  Wink

Quoting Davehammer (Reply 22):
what on earth was the point in bringing back Chimbonda?

I honestly cannot even begin to formulate a rational answer. I was glad when we got rid of him.

Quoting Davehammer (Reply 22):
As far as our squad goes it's okay and Zola does a good job under the circumstances.



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 22):
but last season I saw 3 players from our youth set up break into the first team.

During last weeks friendly with Holland, the commentator remarked that seven players in the game had been through West Ham's doors, either currently or in the past. Thats a great achievement. But it must be frustrating when these players develop and a couple of years down the line they are flogged off and bring no real long term benefit to your team. I know I get frustrated when the Man U's or Liverpool's turn our players heads.
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:26 pm



Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 23):
But it must be frustrating when these players develop and a couple of years down the line they are flogged off and bring no real long term benefit to your team. I know I get frustrated when the Man U's or Liverpool's turn our players heads.

Incredibly so mate. Mainly due to the absolute ineptitude of successive boards. Rio was always destined for bigger and better things but the main thing for me was never replacing 'arry properly. He had stagnated so fair enough he was going but by irritating Curbishley and flat out ignoring Rijkaard the board ended up with cone specialisg Roeder. We are relegated and lose half our decent players.
 
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RE: English Premiership 2009-2010

Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:49 pm

Well done to Burnley tonight, but as an Arsenal fan I was hoping Man Utd would have it easy for their first few games. With Arsenals new way of playing (closing down all the time) I would have expected the Gunners to beat (or go close against) Utd in just over a week if they had an easy start. I think Utd will have woken up now after tonights defeat. And hopefully Spurs will have the total opposite to last season  Wink
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