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F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:58 am

Couldn't see that this had been started but apologies if it has.

Last time I looked Hamilton had been installed as favourite. Be interesting to see if McLaren and Ferrari can sustain their resurgence or Brawn and Red Bull stay at the front or someone else rockets to the front after the break ...
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:03 am

I think RBR will be the one's who are hard to beat. Brawn seems to have slipped back, and unless they've dramatically improved I don't really see them posing a threat. The big question is, will Renault be there? They have their court of appeal hearing today, so we will have to wait and see.
 
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:57 am

And here is the customary video of the circuit. Enjoy the video as you ride with Felipe Massa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u6MjxS3EJU
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:31 pm

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77736
Renault Ban overturned...Grosjean likely to take Piquet's place.

I think this is a logical move by FIA....and they really had no other choice to keep ticket sales up...If no Schumi...then Alonso.

In terms of the Race, I remember Hamilton to have been strong here. I wouldn't be surprised if he led the pack.

If it's a hot race, Button might do well too. I wouldn't be surprised to see Webber and Vettel in the mix.

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Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:52 pm

Great to see that Renault will be able to race. I like watching Alonso drive, and he might be in a good spot for his home GP as this track is not really about speed either. Will be interesting as both Mclaren and Ferrari showed good pace in last race.
So it can be a race with 5 teams fighting it out.

What made me laugh is that Badoer will be able to drive the F60 before Friday while shooting a commercial for Ferrari. It will be with extreme hard compounds, but still. Not only will he be able to race again, but also try out the car before Friday. Big grin

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Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:06 pm



Quoting Sudden (Reply 4):
What made me laugh is that Badoer will be able to drive the F60 before Friday while shooting a commercial for Ferrari. It will be with extreme hard compounds, but still. Not only will he be able to race again, but also try out the car before Friday.

I read this..and frankly am not a fan of this. Looks like either Ferrari found a Loophole in the rules, or they're using this as a cover up for a test.

Does an extreme hard compound tyre being used result in it not being a test if the entire chassis is 2009 specs?  Wink

and who knows...maybe the super hard compound suits Ferrari's test track Fiorano.

If I was in the FIA...to be fair to everyone...I wouldn't even allow this to be honest. If they wanted to do this on the day of qualifying or just after friday practice...at slow speeds I might be ok with it.
 
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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:31 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 3):
Renault Ban overturned...Grosjean likely to take Piquet's place.

That's two good news in one post! I can't wait to see Grosjean (if confirmed) racing for Renault.

Good to see another French driver in F1!!
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Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:47 pm



Quoting Sudden (Reply 4):
Great to see that Renault will be able to race.

Oh definitely I am pleased that Alonso will be racing.

Still my winner has not changed.

http://www.lewishamilton.com/.

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Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:05 pm



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 5):
If I was in the FIA...to be fair to everyone...I wouldn't even allow this to be honest. If they wanted to do this on the day of qualifying or just after friday practice...at slow speeds I might be ok with it.

I think we need to view it as Ferrari found a loophole that FIA can't do anything about, which in turn is fair. A bit like the DD diffuser.
On the other hand, to shoot a commercial is a business that can very easily end up in the million $ mark, so I don't think that Ferrari are doing this just to be able to let Badoer drive the F60. Just my opinion though.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
Still my winner has not changed.

No worries, I'm pretty sure none of us would think anything else when it comes to your favourite.  Wink

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Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:24 am



Quoting Sudden (Reply 8):
I think we need to view it as Ferrari found a loophole that FIA can't do anything about, which in turn is fair. A bit like the DD diffuser.

Exactly.  checkmark 

And if some of the other teams try to take Ferrari to the WMSC accusing them of breaking hte rules for testing, I wish them the best of luck in trying to successfully prove that it was for testing and not for advertisement filming.
 
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:15 am

Here is something to note and remember ... me defending Ferrari, or at least their actions.

I beleive there is an agreement between the teams to allow promotional use of the cars, hence Bridgestone make a "promotional" super hard slick and the cars are limited to 100kph.
The only real benefit Badoer could get would be getting used to the controls and steering wheel but he would have spent enough time in the simulator to not really need that.

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Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:14 am

Grosjean is confirmed! He'll be replacing Piquet until the end of the season:

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090818100615.shtml

I can't wait to see how he will do!!
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Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:20 am

The last Fiszman cartoon:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/125/04avantgpdeurope2009.jpg
On the transfer market, Renault is already very active

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Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:44 pm



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 12):
The last Fiszman cartoon:

hahhaaa................
Now that's funny!

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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:56 pm



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 12):
Alonso: "To Ferrari!..."

Replacing Kimis Rightintothewineagain?
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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:42 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 10):
used

Obviously there's some benefit in it, otherwise they wouldn't do it unless they were using it as some kind of pit stop practice.
 
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:52 am



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 15):
Obviously there's some benefit in it, otherwise they wouldn't do it

Or perhaps they were actually performing some promotional role like they said!
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:02 pm

I wish Takuma Sato to be back next season!!  airplane   airplane   yes   angel   airplane   airplane 

I would love so much to see my two favourite drivers Hammy and Taku racing each other. That would be a blast!
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:14 pm

The GP venue has some modifications this year:

- The pits exit has been improved;
- The wall between the track and the pits has been modified;
- Walls have been pushed away on turns 3, 5, 9, 10 and 14;
- Artificial grass has been installed on around turns 10 and 14;
- New rumble strips installed on turn 4 and 5.
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:20 pm

As a Ferrari fan and as an italian, I will be definitely rooting for Badoer for this GP. Not as exciting as Schumi, but seeing an Italian driving the red car is still something to look forward to!
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:50 pm



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 18):
Artificial grass has been installed on around turns 10 and 14

Hm, why don't they go a bit wild and crazy and put some grass IN turn 10 and 14 as well! Big grin

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Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:51 pm

Quote:

It was also revealed that Renault’s case was helped by the fact that Red Bull Racing, McLaren, Ferrari and Toyota all wrote letters supporting Renault’s case - with two teams admitting that their own pit-stop procedures have had to be changed to avoid a repeat of an Alonso-type situation.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77769
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Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:48 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 21):
It was also revealed that Renault’s case was helped by the fact that Red Bull Racing, McLaren, Ferrari and Toyota

You see, Ferrari is not so evil after all Big grin
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:36 am



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 17):
I would love so much to see my two favourite drivers Hammy and Taku racing each other

With all due respect Madame, I am not sure what kind of car/driver combination would have Lewis & Taku actually racing each other.

Back to the news, the FIA have released the 2010 Sporting & Technical regulations.

Notable is that the points system remains unchanged and is not Bernie's "medal" proposal.

Qualifying has been amended to cater for a 26 car entry list and it appears that Q3 will be run in a light fuel state so no more guess work about who is light or heavy.

The rules seem unclear as to whether KERS is optional or not.

The way I read it those stupid wheel cover/brake ducts should not be allowed but that is the way I read the 2008/9 rules as well.

Having said all that I would not bother to commit these rules to paper as there is plenty of time for amendments between now and March 2010

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Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:13 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 23):
it appears that Q3 will be run in a light fuel state so no more guess work about who is light or heavy.

Changes to qualifying next year: "Q3 will now be run in low-fuel configuration with the regulations taking into account the re-fuelling ban for 2010", autosport claims it was designed to please the fans.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77775

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Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:43 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 23):
Qualifying has been amended to cater for a 26 car entry list and it appears that Q3 will be run in a light fuel state so no more guess work about who is light or heavy.

I prefer if you re-instate limitations such as the 107% rule. That should serve as a better incentive for them to make it into the grid. And those who can't hack it, don't race and don't slow others down.
 
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:19 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 25):
I prefer if you re-instate limitations such as the 107% rule.

That is something that might have to be considered for 2011 if the new teams do not measure up but for now it would be non issue, in the 7 races to Turkey this year the gap from overall fastest lap to slowest averaged 102.51% and never exceeded 103.5%.

In other news Norbert Haug of Mercedes, while agreeing with the Renault appeal decision took a swipe at the process saying he would love to know how it felt to have a draconian decision overturned.

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Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:28 am



Quoting Sudden (Reply 20):

Hm, why don't they go a bit wild and crazy and put some grass IN turn 10 and 14 as well!

And transform this venue into some kind of Rally-cross track? Why not  scratchchin  , at least it would add some fun to a very boring GP!  Big grin
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:54 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 23):
Notable is that the points system remains unchanged and is not Bernie's "medal" proposal.

Good!

If it ain't broke, don't fix it 1-0 Bernie Ecclestone

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 24):
Changes to qualifying next year: "Q3 will now be run in low-fuel configuration with the regulations taking into account the re-fuelling ban for 2010", autosport claims it was designed to please the fans.

Makes sense to me. Running the top 10 cars in Q3 on light fuel means they'll be faster, and as refuelling will be banned for next year they'll all be topped up to the brim afterwards anyway, so nobody is going to be disadvantaged.
 
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:55 am



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 24):
"Q3 will now be run in low-fuel configuration with the regulations taking into account the re-fuelling ban for 2010"

So with the re-fuelling ban wouldn't it make more sense to have them fully fuelled at the start of each qualifying session so the grid order would be a reasonable representation of how they will start the race and then changes during the race will reflect how each design copes with the change in fuel load? (I say this because this used to be a real factor and lead to some real mix em up and sort em out RACING vis a vie as in the 70s.)
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:13 pm



Quoting Tsv (Reply 29):
So with the re-fuelling ban wouldn't it make more sense to have them fully fuelled at the start of each qualifying session so the grid order would be a reasonable representation of how they will start the race and then changes during the race will reflect how each design copes with the change in fuel load?

Interesting, but next year it will be just what you wrote, but the other way around.  Wink

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Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:29 pm

Badoer: "Until Felipe comes back, the car is mine!"

Drivers: Jaime Alguersuari (Toro Rosso), Fernando Alonso (Renault), Luca Badoer (Ferrari), Jenson Button (Brawn GP) and Lewis Hamilton (McLaren).

Q: Firstly, a question to you all. What have you been doing during the break?

FIA Thursday press conference - Europe
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http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9766.html
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:01 am

Practise 1 result:

1 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:42.460
2 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.636 0.176
3 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.654 0.194
4 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:43.074 0.614
5 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:43.088 0.628
6 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:43.209 0.749
7 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:43.225 0.765
8 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:43.243 0.783
9 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:43.345 0.885
10 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:43.384 0.924
11 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:43.389 0.929
12 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:43.419 0.959
13 11 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:43.637 1.177
14 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:43.746 1.286
15 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:44.040 1.580
16 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:44.126 1.666
17 8 Romain Grosjean Renault 1:44.356 1.896
18 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:44.638 2.178
19 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:44.732 2.272
20 3 Luca Badoer Ferrari 1:45.840 3.380

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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:59 am



Quoting Sudden (Reply 32):
Practise 1 result:

The return of the Brawns... As far as I can remember, the last time they were on top during Friday practice was in Monaco.

Let's see if the can confirm tomorrow.
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:09 am

I see the toyota's are having another nightmare on a street circuit
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Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:15 am



Quoting T1210s (Reply 34):
I see the toyota's are having another nightmare on a street circuit

I think Toyota has a bit of split personality. I mean, they are very fast in 1-2 races, and the next it's back to the Trulli-train. Not consistent at all.

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Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:22 pm

I see that McLaren are using a shorter wheel base car in Valencia this weekend. The reason Lewis didn't go back out in P2 is because they had run out of parts for it.

Quoting Sudden (Reply 35):

I think Toyota has a bit of split personality. I mean, they are very fast in 1-2 races, and the next it's back to the Trulli-train. Not consistent at all.

Very much so. Their car seems to be designed for certain circuits, but no other. Not really a way to win races or championships is it? Toyota really need to get their act together.
 
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:08 am



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 36):
Toyota really need to get their act together.

They have been in F1 now for how many years? I think it's strange that a team as Toyota with such a budget is not able to accomplish more.
They could always replace Trulli with Kubica for next year, who I think is a far more consistent driver as well.

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Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:38 am



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 36):
I see that McLaren are using a shorter wheel base car in Valencia this weekend. The reason Lewis didn't go back out in P2 is because they had run out of parts for it.

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Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:26 am

Quoting Autosport:
Badoer's only notable achievement was getting caught speeding in the pit-lane a record four times in one session.........

.....AUTOSPORT understands that all the speeding offences were caused by Badoer readjusting from the 100km/h he is used to in testing to the 60 km/h demanded in practice, which calls for different braking distances.

Despite all the rhetoric about Badoer, this and being severely off the pace are hardly the hallmarks of one ready for the main event!!

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Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:39 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 39):
Despite all the rhetoric about Badoer, this and being severely off the pace a hardly the hallmarks of one ready for the main event!!

So much for the earlier pleas that it should've been Badoer's seat anyway, not Schumacher's (before the Quack stepped in). I doubt Gene would've been much quicker either, despite last racing in F1 in 2004 covering for Ralf Schumacher.

Then again, who else can Ferrari call upon to stand in for Massa if Badoer is too slow?
 
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:03 am

Bummer! I cannot find any live practice 3 streaming on the internet!

I hope I will be able to see the Qualifs this afternoon.

The only thing I have is this but no live streaming as I am not in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/default.stm

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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:38 am



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 33):
The return of the Brawns...

Have to say that in the grand scheme of things, those results look much more like the return of the McLarens to me.....

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Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:19 pm

http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/formula-one-live

Go Hammy!!!!!

Drivers scores for now....

1 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
2 Brazil R Barrichello Brawn
3 Finland H Kovalainen McLaren
4 France R Grosjean Renault
5 Germany N Rosberg Williams
6 Germany A Sutil Force India
7 Italy G Fisichella Force India
8 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
9 Spain F Alonso Renault
10 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
11 Finland K Raikkonen Ferrari
12 Germany N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
13 Japan K Nakajima Williams
14 Poland R Kubica BMW Sauber
15 Great Britain J Button Brawn
16 Australia M Webber Red Bull
17 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
18 Germany T Glock Toyota
19 Italy J Trulli Toyota
20 Italy L Badoer Ferrari
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Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:27 pm

Q1 results

Live Leaderboard

Position Country Driver Team

1 Great Britain J Button Brawn
2 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
3 Poland R Kubica BMW Sauber
4 Finland H Kovalainen McLaren
5 Finland K Raikkonen Ferrari
6 Switzerland S Buemi Toro Rosso
7 Australia M Webber Red Bull
8 Brazil R Barrichello Brawn
9 Germany N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
10 Germany N Rosberg Williams
11 Germany A Sutil Force India
12 Spain F Alonso Renault
13 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
14 France R Grosjean Renault
15 Germany T Glock Toyota
16 Italy G Fisichella Force India
17 Japan K Nakajima Williams
18 Italy J Trulli Toyota
19 Spain J Alguersuari Toro Rosso
20 Italy L Badoer Ferrari



Q2 results


Live Leaderboard
Position Country Driver Team
1 Brazil R Barrichello Brawn
2 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
3 Finland H Kovalainen McLaren
4 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
5 Germany N Rosberg Williams
6 Great Britain J Button Brawn
7 Australia M Webber Red Bull
8 Spain F Alonso Renault
9 Poland R Kubica BMW Sauber
10 Finland K Raikkonen Ferrari

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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:49 pm

Very disappointed by Badoer. He did not even come close to 19th position... I still don't understand why they chose him to race. I think Gené would have been a better choice.

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 42):
Have to say that in the grand scheme of things, those results look much more like the return of the McLarens to me.....

Of course. But for the last 3 or 4 GPs, Brawns were not as good as during the first part of the season. In Valencia, it looks like they're competitive again.

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Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:09 pm

Live Leaderboard

Position Country Driver Team

1 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
2 Finland H Kovalainen McLaren
3 Brazil R Barrichello Brawn
4 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
5 Great Britain J Button Brawn
6 Finland K Raikkonen Ferrari
7 Germany N Rosberg Williams
8 Spain F Alonso Renault
9 Australia M Webber Red Bull
10 Poland R Kubica BMW Sauber

1402: Kovalainen had pole in his grasp but let the back end of his car slip away in the penultimate corner... But he takes second. And MCLAREN LOCK OUT THE FRONT ROW AS WORLD CHAMPION LEWIS HAMILTON TAKES POLE POSITION FOR THE EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX. Barrichello will start third on the grid for Brawn.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8215638.stm

Go Hammy!!!!!!

I know you can win Valencia!!!!!

Yes you can!!!!!

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BlueElephant
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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:38 pm

I am so happy this morning...Especially FOR Madame Concorde!

And for Heikki and Lewis...absolutely brilliant stuff from the McLaren drivers!

Here's hoping for a 1-2 finish tomorrow as well.

If Only Heikki was driving like this EVERY Race...
 
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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:50 pm



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 45):
I think Gené would have been a better choice.

I actually have the answer to this. Ferrari didn't put Gené in the car cause he is even slower the badoer. Ferrari stated this themselves.

Good to see Kova on P2. He would have taken pole if it wasn't for the understeer in the last corner of his last attempt.

By the way,
Did anyone else see that Badoer crossed the white line exiting the pit lane on his first run in Q1?
Or is it allowed as he was the only car on the track at that point?

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RE: F1 2009 : European Grand Prix

Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:26 pm

Weights?



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