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Porn Legal Sales To Kids In UK - For 3 Mos Only

Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:36 pm

Hey kids, knock yourself out! You have 3 months to collect a big a stash of porn before it will become illegal again 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090825/od_nm/us_video_1

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LONDON (Reuters) – Retailers who sell children violent or pornographic videos will be immune from prosecution for the next three months after the discovery of a government blunder 25 years ago.

Britain should have notified the European Commission of the existence of the Video Recordings Act 1984 (VRA) -- which regulated the industry -- but failed to do so.

"Unfortunately, the discovery of this omission means that, a quarter of a century later, the VRA is no longer enforceable against individuals in United Kingdom courts," said Barbara Follett, Minister for Culture and Tourism.

Follett said people currently being prosecuted under the act would not be convicted until a new act can take legal effect in three months, the period required for consultation with other EU member states.

In the interim, people will be able to sell pornographic and violent videos to children under the age of 18 without fear of prosecution.

Think of the tourist trade! I can just see kids being asked by their parents, "So, Little Johnny, where do you want to go for your holidays? Disneyland? Six Flags?"

"Can we go to England instead?"

"Of course, that would give you a great education!"

"That's the idea, dad"

[Edited 2009-08-25 13:40:43]
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Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:39 pm

Wow thats one hell of a government fault!

What lapsed in the government to allow this to happen?
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Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:49 pm

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Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:52 pm



Quoting Dreadnought (Thread starter):
In the interim, people will be able to sell pornographic and violent videos to children under the age of 18 without fear of prosecution.

Well I doubt there will be a big rush of retailers in selling all this porn to kids unless they are sick in the head.
 
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Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:12 pm

The thing that really gets to me is that our government is so subservient to the EU that they will allow the sale of violent/pornographic films to children, due to an error 25 years ago.

We should be strong enough to ignore the EU on this matter. The voters of the UK have never agreed to the EU having such powers over us. The only vote on the matter was over 30 years ago, for what was then referred to as "the common market"

It is time to reign back on federalism and get back to what was originally intended. Individual US states have more freedom than the Countries in the EU.
 
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Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:21 pm



Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 4):
We should be strong enough to ignore the EU on this matter.

Well said Bongo. It is utterly absurd. The spirit of the law is sound and should be enforced until the new 'improved' version is on the statute books.

But we both know it is not going to happen.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:24 am



Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 4):

Well said. The UK needs to grow a set.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:34 pm



Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 4):
The thing that really gets to me is that our government is so subservient to the EU that they will allow the sale of violent/pornographic films to children, due to an error 25 years ago.

I think this is the bigger issue. Has the UK, and other member nations, given up their sovereignty to the EU? Are laws unenforceable within your own borders because the EU hasn't been consulted?
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:57 pm



Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 7):

You'll get the EU cheerleaders on here saying no, but the reality is yes. Where there is any conflict between national law and EU law, EU law prevails. What is particularly worrying is that even as far back as 1984 when this law was written, the UK was required to inform the EC of it. Why the hell the UK would agree to such a thing is a mystery. However, it goes back much further, to the original arguements before Britain joined the EEC in 1973, and the fact that when Britain held a referendum on EEC membership it was supposed to be all about free trade. Britian voted to join a trading bloc, end of. However, government papers released under the 30 year rule recently made it very evident that the true nature of where the EEC/EC/EU was headed was kept hidden from the British people by the Heath government. Seemingly the Germans and everybody else were clearly aware from the start, but the not the general populace in the UK.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:44 pm



Quoting Offloaded (Reply 6):

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 4):


Well said. The UK needs to grow a set.

Going by the usual performances of our Prime Minister, we may get a reaction from him in about three months, when the problem has been solved. Surely there has never been a leading politician so reticent to publicly give their views on important matters of the day.
he can find time to instantly send letters of congratulation to sports stars and minor tv celebrities, but release a terrorist and it takes him a week to say anything.
 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:56 pm



Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 9):
he can find time to instantly send letters of congratulation to sports stars and minor tv celebrities, but release a terrorist and it takes him a week to say anything.

Possibly something to do with the facts that:
a. he can tell a secretary to send off the standard letter to a celebrity in about two seconds and try feebly to pretend he's in touch with popular culture (I'd rather he didn't bother); and,
b. a letter of congratulation, unlike the PA103 situation, is hardly likely to put him in the middle of a diplomatic row (that ostensibly has little to do with him - if there's more to it than that then the silence from Downing Street is not entirely surprising!) which requires a rather larger period in which to summon a response.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:26 pm



Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 7):
Has the UK, and other member nations, given up their sovereignty to the EU? Are laws unenforceable within your own borders because the EU hasn't been consulted?

It's pretty simple really. The EU is a single market. That means, in principle there should be no market barriers. The simple rule is: what may be sold in one country may also be sold in another. Of course, countries can restrict the market in some ways, for instance to protect children or for general health. They may not, however, target these restrictions towards foreign products, in order to protect domestic producers. Classic example: Denmark may put high taxes on wine, claiming to protect people from alcoholism, but not on beer. Clearly they want to protect their home breweries from competition from abroad, since in Denmark, very little wine is produced. This will likely be against single-market law.

The EU institutions have the obligation to check on the functioning of the internal market. Thus obviously, they need to be informed of any law affecting market access - the Video Recordings Act falls under which.

Of course, the easier solution would be to pass all-EU legislation banning the sales of pornography to children. No further action required. But guess what - then people pipe up claiming that "sovereignty is infringed" and suchlike..
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:42 pm



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Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:30 pm

I think you'd find there would be some other Law to screw them down under Child Protection or similar.
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Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:18 am

Well since there is Internet who is going to spend money on DVD´s ?

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