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Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:00 pm

So in the vein of the Climate Change and Evolution debates,

I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Those fake pics supposedly taken by "astronauts" are not valid evidence. Anyone can paint a pretty picture.

PROVE it to me!

"After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree." -Rev 7:1

[Edited 2009-08-26 09:03:17]
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:10 pm

The earth is clearly flat. Haven't seen any reports of Ozzies or Kiwis falling off lately.
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:15 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Oh I am hoping your kidding.

Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree." -Rev 7:1

Then again, maybe not.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:26 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Do you mind having several hundred rockets strapped to your butt? If you don't, and we can scrounge up some surplus astronaut suits, we'll be all set to prove it to you.
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:37 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
So in the vein of the Climate Change and Evolution debates,

I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Those fake pics supposedly taken by "astronauts" are not valid evidence. Anyone can paint a pretty picture.

PROVE it to me!

Perhaps the best way to prove that Earth is not a complete circle, and shaped more like an orange (flatter on top and bottom) is to study the great circle navigation routes flown by airplanes equipped with INS and GPS. The distance across the North Pole from Alaska to Finland is actually about 200nm shorter than it would be if flying over a perfect curviture of the Earth. You get the same phonimina when flying from the Southern Tip on South America (Chile and the Straits of Megelian) to Austrailia over the South Pole.

Do you also believe those pictures and films of the US Astronauts on the Moon was actually taken in a movie studio set in London, too?
 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:41 pm

This is for you:

http://www.physlink.com/Education/askExperts/ae535.cfm

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You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

The Greeks discovered that the earth is round by observing lunar eclipses (i.e. when the earth blocks the sun from the moon, casting its round shadow on the moon's surface).

Another method is simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:57 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Those fake pics supposedly taken by "astronauts" are not valid evidence. Anyone can paint a pretty picture.

How about all the live casts from the Intenational Space Station showing the Earth in the background when the astronauts are doing the EVAs?

Is this made in a studio you think?  Big grin

A lot of cults and religious whackos are still pretending that the Earth is flat.
Would you rather believe in these cults than in the live images coming from Space?  Confused
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:07 pm

I think you've proved your point better than you probably originally imagined you would... Big grin
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:04 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Its not round but Elliptical.So why get convinced  Smile
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:11 pm

The higher you are, the more pronounced is the curvature of the earth. So go to the top of any high mountain with a yardstick, try to match the yardstick to the horizon, and that should do it.

I'm telling you to go there youself, since you don't want to accept photographic evidence.

[Edited 2009-08-26 11:12:46]
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:26 pm

I'm afraid all the evidence is made up. These people are the only ones to know for sure!
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
Against such evidence as provided on the first link, anyone who believes in a spherical (or almost spherical) earth is clearly wrong and must be evangelised to or otherwise dealt with!

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Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:55 pm



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 9):
The higher you are, the more pronounced is the curvature of the earth. So go to the top of any high mountain with a yardstick, try to match the yardstick to the horizon, and that should do it.

Short of this... rent/buy/steal a business jet and take it up to 45000'+, the curvature is quite obvious... or better yet borrow some other high altitude research aircraft (U2/TR1 would work, or a WB-57...).
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:12 pm

Or book a flight on Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic plane!  Smile

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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:58 pm

Well I've seen the curve of the Earth, seven times from 58-60,000 feet.

(But then in a few years time, some will say that no way did airline passengers between 1976 and 2003 travel at Mach 2. Because we don't do it now, therefore it never happened in the first place, 'cos technology is 'better' now and we ain't doing it!.
Hey, if that 'logic' is good enough enough for Apollo conspiracy types...........)
 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:12 pm

And here I was, thinking the world had the shape of a boat, with all the land floating on the huge ocean Belegaer...

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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:16 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
So in the vein of the Climate Change and Evolution debates,

I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Those fake pics supposedly taken by "astronauts" are not valid evidence. Anyone can paint a pretty picture.

PROVE it to me!

"After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree." -Rev 7:1

[Edited 2009-08-26 09:03:17]

blue and green flashes of any astronomical body setting on the horizon when you are at sea on a mostly clear day/night with no haze on the horizon and no serious seas...I've seen green and blue flashes of the sun, moon and venus - nearly every night for a week straight several years ago for the sun, and a couple nights running for the moon and venus.

The flashes are caused by refracted light through the sea surface as the astronomical body falls below the horizon. You have to be looking at just the right moment, but damn, is it cool!


...(I, too, hope you are joking btw  Wink)
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:33 pm

The world is flat, and if you get to the end of it then beyond that point there be dragons.
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:24 pm



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 16):
The world is flat, and if you get to the end of it then beyond that point there be dragons.

But the good thing is that if you defeat them the princess they were keeping will love you until eternity! (Heard she is quite a looker too!)
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:26 pm



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 9):
The higher you are

Dread, we don't know how "high" he is. He is, after all, a doctor.

Quoting Signol (Reply 10):
I'm afraid all the evidence is made up. These people are the only ones to know for sure!
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Ea...ciety

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Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:38 pm



Quoting JRadier (Reply 17):
But the good thing is that if you defeat them the princess they were keeping will love you until eternity! (Heard she is quite a looker too!)

Ummmmm doc wouldn't really care if the princess loved him....he rather have the dungeon master show him some love  butthead 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:42 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):

How about all the live casts from the Intenational Space Station showing the Earth in the background when the astronauts are doing the EVAs?

Filmed at the same studio they used to fake the moon landings. With some help from Industrial Light and Magic. They had to crop out the Death Star about to obliterate the earth.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:18 pm



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 19):

Ummmmm doc wouldn't really care if the princess loved him....he rather have the dungeon master show him some love butthead

I recon doing it with a dragon is damn hot.....  Wink
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:49 pm

I call dibs on Doc's princess then....  devil 
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:57 pm

I was going to use the ship over the horizon example, but somebody already posted it.

Oh, and if anybody can't tell that he is being sarcastic, just read his other posts.
 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:06 pm



Quoting Us330 (Reply 23):
Oh, and if anybody can't tell that he is being sarcastic, just read his other posts

Nah....you can't be serious.....really???  sarcastic 

But all of you are wrong. We live inside hollow earth. That is why things are how they seem or that is what THEY want us to think  stirthepot 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:12 pm

If you go out far enough into the Pacific Ocean off San Francisco, you'll see the Golden Gate Bridge slip below the horizon. It's not the sea swallowing it up, it's just another visual example of the curvature of the Earth:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/3039092454_eed719870d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3241/3038281397_06ccd62c69_b.jpg
 
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:17 pm



Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 25):
f you go out far enough into the Pacific Ocean off San Francisco, you'll see the Golden Gate Bridge slip below the horizon. It's not the sea swallowing it up, it's just another visual example of the curvature of the Earth:

photoshopped

next!
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:21 pm



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 26):
Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 25):
f you go out far enough into the Pacific Ocean off San Francisco, you'll see the Golden Gate Bridge slip below the horizon. It's not the sea swallowing it up, it's just another visual example of the curvature of the Earth:

photoshopped

next!

Nope. I took them myself. Don't believe me? Go out and see for yourself.
 
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:22 pm



Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 27):
Don't believe me? Go out and see for yourself.

...hit and a miss!

I was being sarcastic.
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Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:47 pm



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 28):
Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 27):
Don't believe me? Go out and see for yourself.

...hit and a miss!

I was being sarcastic.

It was addressed to any subversive Flat Earth Society naysayers.  Wink
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:47 am

Heck, I watched the Lewes-Cape May Ferri disappear off the horizon towards Delaware, and then return again.

Last time I checked, it is impossible to photoshop live vision!!  Wink

Not to mention, but there are photos from as early as the 1960s and 1970s taken from satelites and other space probes? And, the last time I checked, photoshop wasn't even a concept back then!

Ever go to the beach and look out at the horizon? There is a very very very subtle curve to it, especially if you look at it from a high enough elevation!

Or, how is it possible to fly only 6,000-some miles to JAPAN from NEW YORK? It's called flying over the polar ice cap!

Besides... I thought Columbus proved that the earth was round when he set sail for Indonesia but wound up in what is now the Bahamas... Then how about Magellan's crew? Unfortunately he parished while in the middle of the Pacific, but his crew made it back to Europe...

Oh, even better yet. There are several cruises that start out in New York, heat East for Europe, down through the Mediteranean Sea, through the Suez Canal into the Red Sea, through the Indian Ocean, to S.E. Asia, to Hawaii, and end in L.A, with one way air travel back to New York...
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:21 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):

Perhaps the best way to prove that Earth is not a complete circle, and shaped more like an orange (flatter on top and bottom) is to study the great circle navigation routes flown by airplanes equipped with INS and GPS. The distance across the North Pole from Alaska to Finland is actually about 200nm shorter than it would be if flying over a perfect curviture of the Earth. You get the same phonimina when flying from the Southern Tip on South America (Chile and the Straits of Megelian) to Austrailia over the South Pole.

The earth is disk-shaped. Powerful magnetic fields around the edge move things faster or slower making it seem so, yes.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):

Do you also believe those pictures and films of the US Astronauts on the Moon was actually taken in a movie studio set in London, too?

Los Angeles.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):

How about all the live casts from the Intenational Space Station showing the Earth in the background when the astronauts are doing the EVAs?

Is this made in a studio you think? Big grin

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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:36 am

Good thread, Doc.

Really, the only way to truly believe anything is to see it/see signs for yourself.

I could say the world doesn't exist, we're all in a huge virtual reality simulator. So the world is actually a huge computer. I can't prove this. But I've seen this 'historical record' that indicates it.

It's this hard to prove something that is known as a fact for many years (before photos that could be manipulated, etc), so imagine how hard believing some scientists is in relation to global warming (whichever side of the fence you're on) or any other debate. Unless you have the evidence and can see it first-hand, you're only spewing out what others have said/researched... And how can we believe that?

Challenge the status quo!

(I don't need evidence of a round earth, I'll take it as is... But let's see the proof anyway)
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:06 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 30):
Besides... I thought Columbus proved that the earth was round when he set sail for Indonesia but wound up in what is now the Bahamas...

Columbus isn't a good example---Magellan's a better one. Columbus sailed west, and then returned to Europe by sailing east. Looking at Columbus, one could argue that his voyage reinforced the notion that the earth was flat, with Europe at the center of the world.

All his voyage did was rediscover the New World.
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:41 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
So in the vein of the Climate Change and Evolution debates,

I challenge anyone here to convince me that the world is round.

Those fake pics supposedly taken by "astronauts" are not valid evidence. Anyone can paint a pretty picture.

PROVE it to me!

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Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:42 pm

Everyone in the 20th century thought the Earth was round. They also started devising all sorts of tortuous ways to understand nature, like Physics and so on. If only they had listened to me! I sent them a Monolith and all these dummies could do was to make a movie of it.

Well, I am getting mighty annoyed with all of you and am planning to start all over again.

Goodbye, Earth.


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Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:49 pm



Quoting Offloaded (Reply 1):
The earth is clearly flat. Haven't seen any reports of Ozzies or Kiwis falling off lately.

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Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:05 pm

When all else fails -- curl up with any good book on non-Euclidean geomtry -- the proof is on page 42.
 
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:40 pm

Take a Concorde flight, and see it yourself  Smile
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:42 pm



Quoting Canoecarrier (Reply 20):
Death Star about to obliterate the earth.

uh oh.........

Quoting Us330 (Reply 23):
I was going to use the ship over the horizon example

But the ship sank?

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 25):
If you go out far enough into the Pacific Ocean off San Francisco, you'll see

California finally fall into the ocean?

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 29):
Flat Earth Society naysayers

Is that a new organization?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 31):
The earth is disk-shaped

CD or DVD? I think I'd rather be in a movie than a song.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 31):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):

Do you also believe those pictures and films of the US Astronauts on the Moon was actually taken in a movie studio set in London, too?

Los Angeles.

Oops, sorry.

Quoting Dc9northwest (Reply 32):
Good thread, Doc.

I agree, great post Doc.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Us330 (Reply 33):
Europe at the center of the world.

So that's the problem.......and I always thought Boston was the "Hub of the Universe".

Quoting Us330 (Reply 33):
All his voyage did was rediscover the New World.

Are we still lost?

Quoting Comorin (Reply 35):
Everyone in the 20th century thought the Earth was round. They also started devising all sorts of tortuous ways to understand nature, like Physics and so on. If only they had listened to me! I sent them a Monolith and all these dummies could do was to make a movie of it.

Well, I am getting mighty annoyed with all of you and am planning to start all over again.

Goodbye, Earth.


Signed

Your God.

Please, please give us another chance.................

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 38):
Take a Concorde flight, and see it yourself

Can we us the one on the barge at the Interpid Museum in New York?
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:04 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 30):
I watched the Lewes-Cape May Ferri

OT, but when I was going to sea we tierd up at the Cape May Terminal whenever we were in port the last two years  Wink

...back on topic...out of curiousity, since I haven't been a) on a plane at sunrise/sunset or b) wasnm't looking out the window at said time, can you see the blue and green flashes of the sun going down from altitude as well? I could reason out either way, so am asking the aviators on here instead  Smile.
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:28 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 39):
Can we us the one on the barge at the Interpid Museum in New York?

Just book a British Airways or Air France Concorde flight either CDG-JFK or LHR-JFK. I don´t see the problem?
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:23 pm

Try this, then use logic
Rent yourself a plane, and set a course to a specific compass heading. Continue along same heading and you will eventually come back to the place you started. Since you were always headed in the same direction, the only way you could end up back at your starting point is if the Earth were round. Good luck, pack light to save fuel, this trip ain't gonne be cheap  Smile
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:27 pm



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):

Whatever it is that you're smoking.... care to share??  Wink
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:17 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 39):
CD or DVD? I think I'd rather be in a movie than a song.

Neither! I would be that according to Superfly and yours truely, it would be vinyl!! Big grin

Or, better yet, and especially given the color of the water, why not "blue-ray" Big grin Big grin
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Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:27 pm



Quoting Baroque (Reply 36):
.nwod edispu gnieb drawkwa yrev si ti tub oN

No Baroque...that is just backward.

˙uʍop ǝpısd∩ sı sıɥ⊥

And

⊥ɥıs ıs ndsıpǝ poʍu ɐup qɐɔʞʍɐɹps˙

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Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:34 pm

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 45):
⊥ɥıs ıs ndsıpǝ poʍu ɐup qɐɔʞʍɐɹps˙

no, that is just uʍop ǝpısdn

[Edited 2009-08-27 13:36:42]
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:41 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 41):
Just book a British Airways or Air France Concorde flight either CDG-JFK or LHR-JFK. I don´t see the problem?

ummm, what?

If Earth was flat, why are all other planets in the solar system round??
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:47 pm



Quoting LHR380 (Reply 47):
why are all other planets in the solar system round??

What's a solar system? Planets? What are those? Some sort of exotic plants?
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RE: Convince Me The World Is Round

Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:12 pm



Quoting Dc9northwest (Reply 32):
Really, the only way to truly believe anything is to see it/see signs for yourself.

So I guess everything is fake then right? Things like atoms, and matter and stuff like that, especially in science, is just fake? Seriously, there are just certain things that you cannot see for yourself. But there are things that are so widly known, that you be rediculous to suggest otherwise. For example, to suggest that the moon or the sun is just a figment of our imagination (all because you've never seen it up close) is extremely rediculous. There a flights that go around the world. People can leave from Los Angeles and get to Hong Kong by flying over canada and Russia. If the world was flat, wouldn't they just fly into space? If the world wasn't round then what sort of gravity would keep us here?
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