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Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:28 pm

I was walking through our student center between classes, and saw on the news that one pastor is praying for Obama's death and that he also hopes Obama "burns in hell". I didn't even look to see which news station and I don't have a link, as I just caught it going between classes.

Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:35 pm

Because they are do not properly understand the teachings of Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. They take a limited and earthly view and let it infect their stewardship of the people that look to them for guidance and leadership.

And we are all poorer for it.

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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:38 pm



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
praying for Obama's death and that he also hopes Obama "burns in hell"

And people wonder why I'm an athiest.  stirthepot   Yeah sure
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:42 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

Pastor steve anderson nutter
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:51 pm

Pat Robertson was praying on his show for liberal Supreme Court justices to die when Bush was in office so GWB could appoint ones that held more "Christian" views. Didn't he also call for Hugo Chavez to be assassinated? Yeah, ol' Reverend Pat...great representative of Christianity, isn't he?  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:02 pm



Quoting T1210s (Reply 3):
Pastor steve anderson

This guy is a infamous extremist in the States. He is also well known by law enforcement. Basically, he warps Christianity to his own delusional agenda. Freedom of speech ends where hate speech begins, and he should be locked up for good.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:36 pm

That is why it is concerning that these phony baloney minsters/pastors be allowed to gain vocal political power.One asinine political statement,they're tax previliges status should be revoked.

Here in Fontana,I can't believe how many ministries suddenly are popping up.Must be the money.Rip off of both pocketbock and God.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:09 pm



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

Because they are wicked and deluded. Clowns like this are certainly not Christians.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:27 pm



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
one pastor is praying for Obama's death and that he also hopes Obama "burns in hell"

What an utter idiot.

That goes for the programming director who decided to air this story, as well. Why give people like that recognition?

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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:57 pm

Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a black dude in the White House.

Of the three, the latter probably upsets them the most.

Let the preacher flap his lips all he wants, we elected Obama.
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:15 pm



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Let the preacher flap his lips all he wants, we elected Obama.

True but you will be pretty lonley at the polls in 2012'. I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

We can make an argument for the opposite, don't forget you have radical lefties who bombed federal buildings and police stations. Oh yea I forgot they made sure nobody was in them.  sarcastic 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:17 pm



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

He's a nutjob that should be ignored and shunned. His teachings have little or nothing to do with Christianity.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 5):
Freedom of speech ends where hate speech begins, and he should be locked up for good.

I disagree. Shun him, shame him, cause him to lose his pulpit, but the First Amendment is sacrosanct. I see Rev. Wright to be just as bad, but he has every right to say what he did, just like we have every right to ridicule and criticize what he said (and anyone who listened to him and didn't speak up).
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:20 pm



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Don't forget Rev.Wright and other leftist pastors! The problem is on both sides of the political aisle. And they're just as anti-gay,as well.

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
That goes for the programming director who decided to air this story, as well. Why give people like that recognition?

You're right.

This story has so many holes in it you could fall through it.Why do you need a," terrorist" national security to analysis,to start?MSNBC credibility continues to be zero.

But let's be frank here.How many folks wanted Bush dead?
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:47 pm



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
we elected Obama

Speak for yourself. Though I didn't vote for Obama I wish him no harm and not just because of the wacko that would replace him. Sadly there are crazy people in all religions and both sides.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:54 pm



Quoting Force13 (Reply 2):
And people wonder why I'm an athiest.

As the years go by I might join you  Big grin Although I have to say these puppet religions that you find in the USA are not the true understandings and teachings of the majority ( Thank God ).

We have some weirdos from an American sect ( for want of a better word ) that are here in Ireland. They are young quite good looking Men who kind of look the same with these black rectangular badges on with some weird church on them. They go round knocking on doors asking if they can talk about the values of this and that....Time to invest in an electric fence me thinks....  Wink
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:58 pm



Quoting OA260 (Reply 14):
We have some weirdos from an American sect ( for want of a better word ) that are here in Ireland. They are young quite good looking Men who kind of look the same with these black rectangular badges on with some weird church on them. They go round knocking on doors asking if they can talk about the values of this and that....Time to invest in an electric fence me thinks....

Tell the Mormons we say hi! The Mormon faith was founded about 35 minutes away from where I live actually.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
True but you will be pretty lonley at the polls in 2012'. I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

2012 is a long way off. Remember, Clinton and Regan hit their rough patches too and still served two terms.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:00 pm



Quoting Force13 (Reply 15):
Tell the Mormons we say hi! The Mormon faith was founded about 35 minutes away from where I live actually.

Are those Mormons?? I didnt know what they were !! I didnt want to talk about God but I wouldnt mind talking to them about other things  Wink  Big grin
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:03 pm



Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Are those Mormons?? I didnt know what they were !! I didnt want to talk about God but I wouldnt mind talking to them about other things

Now, now OA260 those young men are always very nice and it would be a shame if you shocked them to the point that they pass out...... wait..... I'm just giving you ideas aren't I?? Big grin
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:14 pm



Quoting Force13 (Reply 17):
wait..... I'm just giving you ideas aren't I??

No your not , I was brought up properly , every Sunday I was on my knees  Big grin  Wink

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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:33 pm

That's nothing. This man in a Church in Arizona, is the Pastor for the guy who brought the AR-15 to Obama's visit to Arizona. He claims that he not only hates Obama, but that God hates Obama and that God wants people to hate Obama. Watch the full extent of the video report to see how deranged this pastor is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fBRglimkgo&feature=channel_page
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:00 am



Quoting Force13 (Reply 15):
2012 is a long way off. Remember, Clinton and Regan hit their rough patches too and still served two terms.

Yea but the rough patch Obama is putting us in is far worse than the rough patches from the 80s and 90s. He is a runaway train and I don't see anything improving unless he breaks away from Pelosi and governs from the center.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:41 am



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
We can make an argument for the opposite, don't forget you have radical lefties who bombed federal buildings and police stations.

Dude! Don't go there! You do remember that the number two.... three.... four(?).... terrorist event was done by what no one can really argue was that "right wing" whack-job Timothy McVeigh. I hate the friggin' "blame game" that goes on here (and in US society in general lately), it's stupid, we agree on most stuff, stop it!

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
I disagree. Shun him, shame him, cause him to lose his pulpit, but the First Amendment is sacrosanct.

Interesting. I apologize for putting you on the spot but which do you put first, the Constitution of these United States or the Bible? I hold the Constitution higher simply because it allows free speech while the Bible does not. With one you can have the other but the other it is possible (likely?) you won't have the other.

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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:05 am



Quoting Tugger (Reply 21):
Interesting. I apologize for putting you on the spot but which do you put first, the Constitution of these United States or the Bible?

What does the Bible have to do anything here? In any case, the Constitution is the law of the land (or at least it used to be), not the Bible.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:33 am



Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 13):
Speak for yourself.

We, as a country, did indeed elect him, no matter who each individual voted for.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):

True but you will be pretty lonley at the polls in 2012'. I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

Same way that many Democrats felt during Bush's 2nd term. No real point in constantly bringing it up.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:19 am

This guy brings shame to the Christian community just like Pat Robertson, Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton. Shoot lets through Bennie Hen in there and Joel Olstien.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 4):
Didn't he also call for Hugo Chavez to be assassinated?

That is correct. And because of that stupid comment he made, my organization was kicked out of Venezuela bringing medical aide to tribal people because now Hugo things my organization is the CIA!!!

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 6):
they're tax previliges status should be revoked.

I totaly agree. I am a strong Christian as many know on here but when Pastors start to tell people how to vote, I believe the tax exempt status should be taken away. Once you step into that realm, your playing with fire. There are certain things that are part of religion that can be said from the pulpit like the Biblical stance on abortion and so on and so forth but NO Church has the right to tell its congrigation to vote No on this and Yes on that and vote Republican or Democrat or to tell them to Tea Party it up. Sorry.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Of the three, the latter probably upsets them the most.

Bull...speak for ONLY yourself on that one. No proof for that bafoonery.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 14):
They go round knocking on doors asking if they can talk about the values of this and that

Dont forget that they let you know how you can become a "god" of your own planet  Wink

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 22):

Take a look at our laws in America. How many of those are found in Scripture? Murder? Stealing? Baring false witness (prejury in court)? and the list goes on...
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:21 am



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 24):
Take a look at our laws in America. How many of those are found in Scripture? Murder? Stealing? Baring false witness (prejury in court)? and the list goes on...

No question, our laws drew inspiration from the Bible. But that's not the same as being law.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:39 am



Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 13):
Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
we elected Obama

Speak for yourself.

Seriously?  Yeah sure

Whether you like it or not, we as a nation elected Obama to the office of President. Just like we as a nation elected Bush to the same office, though there are plenty who didn't vote for him.

Unless you're saying that you don't consider yourself to be a part of the electorate of the nation.

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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:58 am

$5 says this wouldn't be an airliners.net topic if George W. Bush was still in office. In fact, it would be old hat.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:20 am



Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 27):
$5 says this wouldn't be an airliners.net topic if George W. Bush was still in office. In fact, it would be old hat.

You might be out $5, because I'm the thread starter, and yet I was one of the 28% or whatever the number was that supported Bush. But I find the behavior of this pastor sickening because Obama is the President, and wishing his death is unpatriotic, and also because it's completely against what true Christians believe.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:36 am



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. - 1 John 4:1

I think that sums it up nicely. Mix people who want glory and/or attention for themselves and people who want/need to be told how to feel, think, and believe, and you get the rise of these nitwits using God and Christianity for there own selfish gains.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:20 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
That goes for the programming director who decided to air this story, as well. Why give people like that recognition?

Agreed. This media is just propagating hatred on both sides of the coin.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
I disagree. Shun him, shame him, cause him to lose his pulpit, but the First Amendment is sacrosanct. I see Rev. Wright to be just as bad, but he has every right to say what he did, just like we have every right to ridicule and criticize what he said (and anyone who listened to him and didn't speak up).

That's one significant difference between Americans and Canadians. Up here we believe the right to free speech only goes so far. If this guy was preaching that crap in a church up here, he would have been dragged in front of a judge.

Quoting Tugger (Reply 21):
it allows free speech while the Bible does not.

On the contrary, the Bible states a number of times that God has granted us free will.
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Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:30 pm



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 24):
I totaly agree. I am a strong Christian as many know on here but when Pastors start to tell people how to vote, I believe the tax exempt status should be taken away. Once you step into that realm, your playing with fire.

Perhaps a good way to summarize it would be that churches can advocate for or against political issues, but not political candidates.
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Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:51 pm



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 7):
Clowns like this are certainly not Christians.

No, but the media likes to make them out to be mainstream. It seems to we working too. I read posts all the time about enlightened atheists and why "these people" are why some don't believe in religion. That is a wimpy excuse. If you don't believe in god that is fine just don't blame it on other people. These people get a lot of press, but they represent a very small minority of Christians. I have been going to church my whole life and I never have heard anything politcal during a service, never!

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.
That would be me. I used to not mind it, but over the last 10 years I believe conservatism is the only way to go.
Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

A democrat is ok as long as they aren't the far left variety. Bill Clinton was ok as far as a Democrat goes. I voted for him twice, back in the days when I was young and sort of liberal.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

If he dies we have to deal with Joe Biden and Obama will live forever as a symbol of the left. I would never want that to happen.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 29):
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world

That is where all this religous crap comes from: reading just one passage out of the bible. A lot of people like to do that and then twist it to mean what ever they want. This is the same as politicians being taken out of context in a sound bite. To truly understand the word of the Lord you need to read and understand the stories of the bible, not individual passages. Catholics and Episcopalians tend not to read to deep into just one bible verse.

I am tired of the evangelical Christians. When I talk about my Christian faith people automaticlly assume that Christian mean evangelical and that isn't the case.
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Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:11 am



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 24):
Take a look at our laws in America. How many of those are found in Scripture? Murder? Stealing? Baring false witness (prejury in court)? and the list goes on...

Murder, stealing, prejury, etc are universal and not limited to the teaching of the Bible. Just because they are found in the Bible doesn't mean that they originated there. Every civilization through out history have had similar laws. The Code of Ur-Nammu, Code of Hammurabi, Laws of Eshnunna, etc are from ancient civilizations that did not follow the Bible and they all contain laws about the same things.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:30 am



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

Because he is not representing true Christianity. Baptists are not real Christians. They were invented by a man, not by a God.

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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:52 am

Don't worry. God will not accept this man into heaven.
No rational person would follow him, if they were smart they would stand up and walk right out of that church.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:54 am



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 34):
Baptists are not real Christians

I am a Southern Baptist by Church denomination and find that offensive! I am 100% Christian. You oh the other hand do not know what a Christian means obveusly.

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 33):
Just because they are found in the Bible doesn't mean that they originated there

Ah ha! So are you saying that we have good morals within us? Maybe possibly given to us by a devine creator? Muahaha  Smile Food for thought but another thread all together.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 32):
That is where all this religous crap comes from: reading just one passage out of the bible.

Bingo! And because joe blow (Christian a lot of the times and non-Christian most of the times) thinks they are some kind of expert because they feel that they have "proved something wrong" or have been "enlightened". WRONG! The chumps say "ooo I like this! Yeah lets use this portion of scripture to make all my radical thinking make sense." Thats where we have our Joel Olstenes preaching health and wealth and our radical Pastors saying that Arnold Swartzenager is the anti-Christ...wait Amadinigad...wait Obama...wait...
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:08 am



Quoting Tugger (Reply 1):
Because they are do not properly understand the teachings of Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. They take a limited and earthly view and let it infect their stewardship of the people that look to them for guidance and leadership.

How about because they are mentally ill, but charasmatic?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):

Yea but the rough patch Obama is putting us in is far worse than the rough patches from the 80s and 90s. He is a runaway train and I don't see anything improving unless he breaks away from Pelosi and governs from the center.

The bit about the economy recovering?
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Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:02 am



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 36):
and find that offensive!

He's young, respect is something that comes late to his generation.
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Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:55 am



Quoting Force13 (Reply 2):
And people wonder why I'm an atheist.

With you there Force13. The loony US "Christians" seem to be trying to outdo OBL himself.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:55 am



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 36):
I am a Southern Baptist by Church denomination and find that offensive! I am 100% Christian. You oh the other hand do not know what a Christian means obveusly.

I respect Baptists, and I have some great Baptist friends. No one said that you are not Christian. I said that Baptism had devieted from true Christianity, but I didn´t say that Baptists can´t be 100% Christian.
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:46 pm



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 32):
No, but the media likes to make them out to be mainstream. It seems to we working too. I read posts all the time about enlightened atheists and why "these people" are why some don't believe in religion. That is a wimpy excuse. If you don't believe in god that is fine just don't blame it on other people. These people get a lot of press, but they represent a very small minority of Christians. I have been going to church my whole life and I never have heard anything politcal during a service, never!

Amen! Christians as a group have been completely and undeservedly vilified in the media and definitely on this forum for a LONG time.

As a Christian, I pray every day for the well-being of our President, his family, and all of our leaders. I pray Obama makes the right decisions for this country. As a conservative, I didn't vote for him and have strong disagreements with his policies. I don't hate him, I don't wish bad things to happen to him, and I definitely don't wish him banished to Hell. And my views aren't "fringe"--they're the same views as every Christian I know.

However, according to this forum, my Christianity makes me unintelligent, uninformed, a bigot, racist, sexist, and utterly incapable of rational thought or debate. I really feel sorry for some of you; it appears that some Christians have really let you down somewhere along the way. But they don't represent MY Christianity, nor those of most others.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 39):
The loony US "Christians" seem to be trying to outdo OBL himself.

Such a view is just as asinine as those of the fringe lunatics that wish anyone harm.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a black dude in the White House.

Of the three, the latter probably upsets them the most.

Precisely what evidence do you have to support this? Ken, it's painfully obvious you're just trying to push your own agenda (Conservatives Stupid, Liberals Geniuses), calling all Obama dissenters racists. Completely ridiculous. This seems to be beneath you.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:07 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 40):
but I didn´t say that Baptists can´t be 100% Christian.



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 34):
Baptists are not real Christians

What is the oposite of "real Christians"? I would assume fake Christians which arn't Christians in your eyes.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 40):
I said that Baptism had devieted from true Christianity,

That was never said in your post. Sorry.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 41):
Amen! Christians as a group have been completely and undeservedly vilified in the media and definitely on this forum for a LONG time.

I second that! I will not play the persecution card but a lot of people in this world seem to judge the religion on the abusers of it.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:19 am



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a black dude in the White House.

And to add, if I may:

Some people cannot stand anyone in the White House, period.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:01 am

Btw, are there any explenations on why that man said that? I am not living in USA, so I don´t know much about public support of Obama. I have a feeling that most white people in the South are against Obama.

Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 42):
That was never said in your post. Sorry.



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 42):
What is the oposite of "real Christians"? I would assume fake Christians which arn't Christians in your eyes.

The oppostite of real Christians are the Christians who had removed themselves from 1 church.
Baptists do not have church, they are just an organization. That would be the same as if I invented a church and called it an a.net church.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:40 pm



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 41):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 39):
The loony US "Christians" seem to be trying to outdo OBL himself.

Such a view is just as asinine as those of the fringe lunatics that wish anyone harm.

I see, well it sorts matters out, nothing wrong with the loony ones apparently? Seems you have forgotten that one of their lines about Greater Israel is eerily similar to the OBL line about the Caliphate. I suppose OBL could say that the Caliphate was at least more recent than the Greater Israel that some (not all) loony Christians in the US seems to yearn for, as well as the end of the world.
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:36 pm



Quoting Baroque (Reply 45):

I see, well it sorts matters out, nothing wrong with the loony ones apparently?

Of course there's something "wrong" with the "loony" Christians, but you know good and well not all Christians are loony (though you make that thinly veiled attempt to lump us all in together). They are a teeny, tiny, exceptionally small fringe minority--and none of the rest of us approve in any way, shape, or form of what they do and say. And in that vein you are right--they are just as despicable as any terrorist.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 44):
I have a feeling that most white people in the South are against Obama.

Are you looking at it from that standpoint because you think all Southern whites are racist?

I deal quite a bit in the South--namely one of the poorest, least educated areas of mountainous southwest Virginia. Driving through the towns, literally 2/3rds of the houses I passed had Obama signs in their front yard. There were almost -no- McCain signs. I've never heard ANYONE in those areas make a racial slur about Obama or anyone.

I think all this uproar of "Repubs/the South/rednecks/etc can't stand Obama because he's black" is a red herring.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:47 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 44):
Baptists do not have church, they are just an organization.

I am sorry but thats incorrect (not opinion but fact). Although the Southern Baptist do have an organization called the IMB (International Mission Board), that in itself does not claim to be a denomination or its own from of Christianity.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 44):
The oppostite of real Christians are the Christians who had removed themselves from 1 church.

That is opinion that I would assume is only held by Catholics because of distancing themselves from Evangelical Christianity. Glad you think I am not a Christian though...or not a REAL Christian. Your ignorance. Not mine  Wink

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 46):
There were almost -no- McCain signs.

That doesnt surprise many Republicans actually. They felt that McCain wouldnt actually get as much support in the south as Bush did or even if McCain had picked Huckabee as his VPC.
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:33 am



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 46):
Are you looking at it from that standpoint because you think all Southern whites are racist?

Absolutely not. I simply believe that people in the US South are more conservative, but I may be wrong and please correct me.

Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 47):
That is opinion that I would assume is only held by Catholics because of distancing themselves from Evangelical Christianity. Glad you think I am not a Christian though...or not a REAL Christian. Your ignorance. Not mine Wink

No, not only by Catholics. Anyway, I never said that you are not Christian. One should not take seriously what someone said, as that guy doesn´t represent Christianity.
 
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RE: Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"

Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:44 am



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 48):
Absolutely not. I simply believe that people in the US South are more conservative, but I may be wrong and please correct me.

You're right, they do tend to be more conservative. I guess I was just a little touchy because there were some allegations of racism by less scrupulous posters in a few posts above.
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