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The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:14 pm

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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:20 pm

Is that Mrs Lovett's bakery by chance ? You know the one, next door to Mr Todd's barber shop some where on Fleet St.

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Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:24 pm

That is an epic fail on many levels.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:30 pm

I don't understand why this sign is disturbing. I have met some very militant vegans. When I was delivering pizza, I would have both Jews and Muslims watch us clean, sanitize and dry the knife when we cut their pizza. So?
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:37 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 3):
I don't understand why this sign is disturbing. I have met some very militant vegans. When I was delivering pizza, I would have both Jews and Muslims watch us clean, sanitize and dry the knife when we cut their pizza. So?

Religious food rules are one thing. People sincerely believe in and follow them. It could be argued that for some people, vegetarianism/veganism approaches a religious level of devoutness. But organic/conventional? Sorry, giving that distinction a religion-type level of importance is far from being a mainstream belief.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:47 pm



Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
giving that distinction a religion-type level of importance is far from being a mainstream belief.

I guess living on the West Coast all my life just does not make me think twice about this sign. It still has me scratching my head. I don't care, but I realize some people do so it should be known, is my thinking.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:55 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 3):
When I was delivering pizza, I would have both Jews and Muslims watch us clean, sanitize and dry the knife when we cut their pizza. So?

Haha, I used to do the same thing. You forgot to use a clean peel though  Big grin

Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
But organic/conventional? Sorry, giving that distinction a religion-type level of importance is far from being a mainstream belief.

They're just responding to what the consumer demands. While you may not elevate organic foods to a religious level there are people who do (and pay good money to do it). I could care less, but obviously some people do. If it bothers you I suggest you buy your bread elsewhere.
 
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:31 pm

Wasn't it proven that there was no difference (in nutrition) between organic and non-organic foods? Honestly, who cares what bread the slicer has been cutting?

The picture was taken at a market owned by Whole Foods - who woulda thought?
 
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Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:42 am

lots of people have weird hangups about food , for both religious and non-religious reasons - and with the lawsuit happy culture that prevails in certain countries businesses probably have to cover their asses .
 
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:47 am



Quoting UAL757 (Reply 7):
Wasn't it proven that there was no difference (in nutrition) between organic and non-organic foods?

Organic foods don't use genetically engineered stuff, and either don't use pesticides or they use natural pesticides.

Quoting UAL757 (Reply 7):
Honestly, who cares what bread the slicer has been cutting?

People that care about what's in their food.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:36 pm

The scary thing is that there are some people who carry their belief in the dangers of genetically engineered foods or pesticides to the point where they are convinced that accidentally eating a single crumb will make them less healthy.

They've probably just put the sign up to keep the extreme worriers from asking and disrupting the staff. Can't blame them, really.
 
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Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:40 pm

I don't see what bothers you about this sign. Many people prefer organic food. They pay money for it, and enjoy it. Once organic food touches machinery/cutlery that is used on "conventional" food, it no longer becomes organic. So it's a fair sign.

If you do organic don't complain for the people that do.

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Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:45 pm



Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 10):
The scary thing is that there are some people who carry their belief in the dangers of genetically engineered foods or pesticides to the point where they are convinced that accidentally eating a single crumb will make them less healthy.

It's not about a single crumb. It's the fact that the food is no longer organic. It's as simple as that. If organic is your way of life, then so be it. Similarly if a few caffeinated coffee beans falls into the same blender that has been grinding decaf beans, it is no longer possible to say that it's decaf coffee because it has been changed and modified. People choose a lifestyle, and have a right to know what they are eating.

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Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:05 pm

I hope the person using the bread slicer also has a disclaimer sign taped to his hand saying, "I sometimes use this hand to masturbate and wipe my ass. Sorry for the inconvenience. - Management"

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Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:17 pm



Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
Religious food rules are one thing. People sincerely believe in and follow them. It could be argued that for some people, vegetarianism/veganism approaches a religious level of devoutness. But organic/conventional? Sorry, giving that distinction a religion-type level of importance is far from being a mainstream belief.

And I don't understand why you care. Most US carnivores won't eat a dog or a snake or a monkey whereas in other parts of the world it's perfectly acceptable. Hindus won't eat beef yet the US consumes countless cattle per day. Some people choose to only purchase organic products. Who cares?

BTW where's the value in "mainstream beliefs"? If "mainstream" means what we see happening every day on the streets or in the media, one must question the value of having mainstream beliefs.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:55 pm



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 12):
People choose a lifestyle, and have a right to know what they are eating.

Yes. But, also, my digestive system can not handle much soy and I have breathing problems when I eat mushrooms. I need to know these things for those reasons. Using your coffee example, there are people who are so sensitive to caffine, they must buy decaf. I feel sorry for them. That is the best part of coffee, IMO! But, I understand health concerns and food. Perhaps there are chemicals in conventional breads that are not found in organic breads that really do a number on some people's system. That makes sense to me, and, therefore, this sign is making more and more sense to me.

BTW, I was vegitarian for about 4 years and I could tell when something had meat in it. I would not feel well. Yes, I chose that way of eating. Thank goodness I came to my senses!
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:30 pm

Oh no! An evil sign! How dare they cater to someone who doesn't share your belief on food! How dare they cater to an area of consumer demand! I bet they plan to eat your children and rape your mouth next!! Those evil bastards and their evil, non-meat-eating ways!! We need to make them conform to our beliefs whether they like it or not...before it gets personal!! Dun-dun-duhhhhnnn!!!!!

I mean, it's not as if we can just ignore it and move on! oh wait...we can...
 
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:00 am

Um... I still don't understand what the big fuss...  Confused
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:32 am

Looking at that sign reminds me of an amusing incident involving my father and a school barbeque many years ago.

He had become something of a legend locally for his grill outs and volunteeredt at a school event, and so I helped Dad out with the food too. A mother of one of my friends was a really obsessive vegan and brought all these special utensils (so as not to contaminate her food with those that touched meat) and foods for my father to cook on the grill. When she away talking with one of the other parents my father whizzed her veggie burgers up and down in a tray with some hot pork fat, then put them back on the grill to cook for a bit. After she had devoured her vegetastic delights she ran over to my father and remarked how delicious it was and wanted to know how he'd cooked them. I can't remember exactly what he said now but he managed to B.S. some answer that didn't let on to the horrendous crimes that we'd committed.  biggrin 
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:43 am

I guess if people are that fussy, maybe they ought to slice their own bread, or even better, bake their own. Problem solved.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:07 am

Oh, okay. Now I get it. But, I still don't see why it's a big deal...
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:12 am

At least they are warned. Other than that it's just a another sign.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:57 am

the real question is, without the sign, would people really know the difference? If they don't know the difference, make your life easier, don't tell them, then they won't suspect anything and wont come back later to complain about it.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:09 am



Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 9):
People that care about what's in their food.

I DO care what's in my food, thank you. But who gives a damn if the bread slicer cut non organic bread too?? Bread contamination?
 
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:30 am

Sheesh.... it's not like peanuts or something, where a mere few crumbs could be bad!

I can even understand a vegetarian not wanting their pizza cut with the same cutter used on pepperoni... but this sign might as well say "This facility uses tomatoes that have been stored right side up AND tomatoes that have been stored upside down"!

I understand why some peole want organic food... that's fine.. but things like this ruin organics for the majority by making them look like a cult food... just like Peta has made anyone who doesn't want a farm animal tortured seem like a wingnut by crying wolf everytime anyone eats meat.
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:56 pm



Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 18):
Looking at that sign reminds me of an amusing incident involving my father and a school barbeque many years ago.

That's a good one, I had a roommate once who had a vegan girlfriend, she came over and was eating a bag of chips I had, said something about how good they were, then started reading the back of the bag. The bag had a whole paragraph on the back about how they're cooked in pork lard instead of oil because it gives them better flavor or something, she never ate any of my food again  Smile

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 22):
the real question is, without the sign, would people really know the difference? If they don't know the difference, make your life easier, don't tell them, then they won't suspect anything and wont come back later to complain about it.

I think that's the reason for the sign. 99% of people don't care, but they probably get that one person who sees the slicer being used on non-organic bread and then has a fit about their bread not being organic anymore. I think the store is just trying to cover themselves from people complaining when they find out the bread they paid 3x more for was contaminated by cheap bread.

Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 24):
just like Peta has made anyone who doesn't want a farm animal tortured seem like a wingnut by crying wolf everytime anyone eats meat.

Or killing a fly. Then they wonder why people think they're nuts.
 
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:26 pm

So this was at a Whole Foods? Maybe the reason the granola-munching crowd started boycotting that store, then, was not because their CEO attacked their sacrosanct dogma (government-run healthcare) but because their bread gets cut in the same slicer as the unclean variety. I did notice a remarkable drop in the smell of patchouli when doing my groceries lately.

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Classic! The only thing that would have made it funnier would be if a) the hippie found out eventually and/or b) it was a religious "prohibition" rather than a personal one (sure, they are both choices and equally subject to scorn, but one seems to be sacred in our society, for some reason).
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RE: The Mere Existence Of This Sign Is Disturbing

Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:33 pm

Its all about catering to your clientele. If you owned a deli - on which you clients would pay $100 per sandwich, but only if you use knives that had red handles - how many black handled knives would you use?

Its stupid to me, stupid to you, but not stupid to the people paying your bill.

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