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Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:01 pm

 rotfl   rotfl  . So the St. Louis Rams already suck. They have lost 14 straight games dating back to last year (I think). Could you imagine a guy like Limbaugh as a part owner? This story made my day.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10177184
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:33 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Thread starter):
Could you imagine a guy like Limbaugh as a part owner?

I don't know much about football, but he talks about football all the time. He may actually be able to turn the team around. In a couple of seasons. Turning a team around does not always happen overnight. IMO, this is something he would be very good and smart at.
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:43 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Thread starter):
Could you imagine a guy like Limbaugh as a part owner?

Rush got his start in sports broadcasting and is a huge sports fan. He's a big Steelers fan, but I'd rather see him run a football team then some amature who's just in it for the money like the spend happy clown in that owns the Redskins.
 
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:39 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 2):
I don't know much about football, but he talks about football all the time. He may actually be able to turn the team around. In a couple of seasons. Turning a team around does not always happen overnight. IMO, this is something he would be very good and smart at.

Thank you! Already the best post of the thread. This is just business, plain and simple. Best of luck to him if he can help turn that team around.
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:10 pm

Given the abysmal ownership situation of the Rams, having Limbaugh or anyone who is actually genuinely interested in being a good NFL owner is a good thing. Besides,isn’t he from Missouri? So I guess that would bode well for keeping the team in STL. Forget politics, people. This could be a good stabilizing move for a franchise that is in disarray from the owner to the field.

And Checketts has stabilized the Blues ownership after several disastrous years on uncertainty with them. The Blues had made the playoffs EVERY YEAR OF THEIR EXISTENCE until key players like Pronger, et al, were scuttled due to the pending ownership change. They’re finally getting back on their feet.

Every city should be so lucky to find interested passionate responsible owners; on the surface it looks like a good thing for the Rams.
 
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:18 pm

Yep, it would be nice if the Rams could turn it around with some responsible ownership. Just a few short years ago the won the Super Bowl, what has happened to them.

I am glad that me team (the Steelers) has had responsible ownership for decades and continue to do so.

Good Luck to the Rams.
 
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:31 pm



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 6):
Thank you! Already the best post of the thread.

You're welcome! Everyone knows I can not stand his opinions on politics, but I honestly think he would be a very good team owner. This has absolutly nothing to do with politics and right and left and all that. Can he own a team and run it well? Sure. Good luck to him, if he does it!
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:39 pm

Let's keep the posts related to the topic. Political comments and whether Rush Limbaugh is a racist is not germane to the topic.
 
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:10 pm

Since my post was deleted:

Quoting Starbuk7 (Reply 9):
Yep, it would be nice if the Rams could turn it around with some responsible ownership. Just a few short years ago the won the Super Bowl, what has happened to them.

That's the beauty of the NFL system though, well, depending on how you view it. Teams that are good now might be bad a few years from now while the teams that are on the bottom can work their way up. It all has to do with the profit sharing system they use, which is very socialistic but works for the NFL. The way it works is when you buy NFL merchandise, the profit from that purchase is split evenly amongst all the teams. This prevents the situation that you have in baseball, where teams in smaller markets have a much more difficult time competing with teams like New York and Boston and paying the high salaries that the top players demand. In the NFL, however, a team may be on top one year but then another team has the ability to acquire great players.

Rush might just be one of the people who can help get this team some resources and turn the team around.
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:36 am

Personally, I wish that for once, an NFL team could be owned by a rich Black man (or woman - Oprah?) instead of another rich white guy. There is such miniscule ownership of major sports franchises by non-whites that it is appalling despite many sports franchises (except for hockey) are dominated by players who are non-white.

Rush knows he won't be on the radio forever (and the sooner he is off the better in my opinion) and may be looking at someplace to put his huge income from his radio career. There is no doubt he could be a very good owner, he does love sports and has some work experience in major league sports (KC MLB front office role for several years). I do wonder if some of his comments may be used against him in his applying to the NFL for approval to buy into a team. You also have the issue of the non-white players wanting to work for him, but then again the money is always green and would he be any different in his political and social views than all the other owners of major league sports.
 
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Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 2):
Rush got his start in sports broadcasting and is a huge sports fan. He's a big Steelers fan, but I'd rather see him run a football team then some amature who's just in it for the money like the spend happy clown in that owns the Redskins.

Rush is a huge sports fan. He talks about the NFL a lot. For those of you who never listen to him and think the show is all politics all the time you are wrong. Rush also has mentioned his friendship with the NFL commissioner in the past. I would think he knows the ins and outs of the NFL fairly well.

Quoting Slider (Reply 4):
Besides,isn’t he from Missouri?

Yes he is. Cape Girardeau to be exact. There is a statue of his grandfather at the court house. His family has been involved with Missouri Republicans sine the 1920s, maybe earlier.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
You also have the issue of the non-white players wanting to work for him,

I doubt it. Money is money and playing in the NFL is a big deal. The Lions still find players and they are horrible.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
wish that for once, an NFL team could be owned by a rich Black man (or woman - Oprah?) instead of another rich white guy.

They are free to buy one if they want to. I don't know if Oprah is even into sports. If you aren't into the game you won't be a good owner.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
would he be any different in his political and social views than all the other owners of major league sports.

Probably not, he is just a higher profile person.

I look forward to the Rams being part of the EIB radio network.
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:58 pm



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
I wish that for once, an NFL team could be owned by a rich Black man (or woman - Oprah?) instead of another rich white guy.

I wonder if part of it has to do with ego? Being in front of the camera/people could be more of an ego rush for some people than being behind the scenes. Or, I wonder if it could be that some blacks with money think they really can't do much as owners as opposed to those actually throwing and catching touchdowns or making the last minute jumper from outside the three-point line? Or, they just reach a point where they see owning a team as frivolous and would rather put their money into owning land and cars. Hmmmm. Interesting point.
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:18 pm

Let’s just put it this way: Limbaugh would make a better owner than Al Davis, LOL…
 
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:13 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Thread starter):
Could you imagine a guy like Limbaugh as a part owner? This story made my day.

Rush is a very smart businessman ... he has made allot of jack .... and he loves football. He would make a great owner. Now ... the Rams ??  pessimist 
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:17 pm

Rush is already monumentally successful as a business owner. He is also a HUGE NFL fan and is very knowledgeable. All the best to him and the Rams!

Hate him or love him, this is great news for the Rams!
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Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:31 am



Quoting Flanker (Reply 15):
Hate him or love him, this is great news for the Rams!

It is because it probably means the Rams will stay in St. Louis.
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Quoting Falstaff (Reply 16):
It is because it probably means the Rams will stay in St. Louis.

Well good, but it also means someone with a genuine passion for football and excellent business skills will be involved. All of this is great news. I am happy for the Rams. I am tired of giving tons of shit to my best friends brother who is a vivid Rams fan. Hopefully they get things turned around quickly.
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Quoting Flanker (Reply 16):
but it also means someone with a genuine passion for football and excellent business skills will be involved

I know and that is great, but I bring up the staying in the St. Louis thing because there has been speculation that if the team was sold it would move. With Rush having ties to Missouri it likely means he will be keeping the team in St. Louis.
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Quoting Falstaff (Reply 17):
With Rush having ties to Missouri it likely means he will be keeping the team in St. Louis.

Yep. I would assume so.
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Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
It all has to do with the profit sharing system they use, which is very socialistic but works for the NFL.

So how long until he starts railing against it on his radio show?  silly 

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Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:08 am



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 2):
He's a big Steelers fan

- At least the Rams and the Steelers are in different conferences though. I can not remember a time when the AFC North played the NFC West in regular season play.

Quoting Slider (Reply 4):
Besides,isn’t he from Missouri

- I wonder if the Rams will move training camp to Cape Girardeau?  scratchchin 

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
It is because it probably means the Rams will stay in St. Louis

- Do you remember when the Cardinals (NFL) moved to Phoenix? St. Louis seemed like they were empty half of the year.

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Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 20):
Do you remember when the Cardinals (NFL) moved to Phoenix? St. Louis seemed like they were empty half of the year

I wasn't in St. Louis right after the moved, but three years later. It was kind of dead. You would still see St. Louis Cardinals stuff around, but it was off there was no team. The Redbirds were on local TV for a number of years after the move though. West County Lanes, a bowling alley, had a picture of Bill Bidwell on their mens room door for years. There was a lot of distaste for the Bidwells in St. Louis. Just as a word of trivia. The Falstaff Brewing Corporation played a big part in bringing the cards to St. Louis, from Chicago. Even their offices were just down the street from each other. Falstaff was the beer sponsor for Card games until 1975.
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Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:05 pm

I would like to say that a few black players have personally said they would never play for him as an owner. I'm not the only one worried about his racial comments affecting his team.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ush_limbaughowned_st_louis_ra.html
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Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:23 pm



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 2):
He's a big Steelers fan

Actually, he's an Eagles fan. He was critcizing Donovan McNabb a few years ago on a pregame show.
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Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 23):
Actually, he's an Eagles fan. He was critcizing Donovan McNabb a few years ago on a pregame show.

Actually, no. He IS a Steelers fan. He’s made that quite clear.

And players have their prerogative to say what they will, but they’ll follow the money. Cut the sanctimonious race-baiting bullcrap. There are owners that are FAR worse in what they do, who they are, and what they do with their dough.
 
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Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:52 pm

Rush is a great businessman, loves football, and would certainly keep the team in St. Louis. Also Checketts is well-established in ownership and upper-management circles. It's really a win-win.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9):
Personally, I wish that for once, an NFL team could be owned by a rich Black man (or woman - Oprah?) instead of another rich white guy. There is such miniscule ownership of major sports franchises by non-whites that it is appalling despite many sports franchises (except for hockey) are dominated by players who are non-white.

Wait, wait, let me guess... the leagues are racist and are exploiting the poor minority players.

Jesus, get off the color issue already. I hate to break it you, but the reason why most owners happen to be white, most billionaires also happen to be white.
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Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 23):
Actually, he's an Eagles fan. He was critcizing Donovan McNabb a few years ago on a pregame show.

you are pretty clueless.
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Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 25):
poor minority players

The players are anything but poor. Back in the days when all the players were white they got paid a lot less, even if you adjust it for inflation.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 23):
Actually, he's an Eagles fan. He was critcizing Donovan McNabb a few years ago on a pregame show.

McNabb plays for the Eagles. If he had been a Steeler I doubt Rush would have said anything bad about him.

How many people even remember what Rush said about McNabb? Rush said that he thought the NFL wanted a good black QB so bad they were overating McNabb. If Mcnabb had been white he would not be the big deal that he was made to be. Whether or not you think McNabb was/is great. It is a fact that the NFL and many fans wanted a star QB who was black. It was an observation that probably a lot of people thought but just did not say. But any time a white personality brings up race, in regards to black people, he is automaticly fired and ridiculed by the media. It really didn't matter in the end anyway. The game of professional football just kept right on going.
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Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:36 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 22):
I would like to say that a few black players have personally said they would never play for him as an owner. I'm not the only one worried about his racial comments affecting his team.

There are plenty of other players that would love to take those spots.
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Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:39 pm



Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 23):
Actually, he's an Eagles fan.

Actually, you're wrong. He talks about it all the time. You could have googled it too....
 
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:21 pm



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 7):

Let's keep the posts related to the topic. Political comments and whether Rush Limbaugh is a racist is not germane to the topic.


I disagree. The player's union has already come out against his owning a team based on past racial comments, including racial comments about the NFL. Take out the fact that limbaugh is controversial and there is really little to talk about: all possible owners are rich guys, and their richness is generic.

Limbaugh is an extremely divisive person, and you bet your butt that his stamp on the team will both discourage some players from playing for him, and will discourage some people from being fansof his team. There will be many people who will feel uneasy about doing anything that could produce him more money.
 
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:47 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 30):
I disagree. The player's union has already come out against his owning a team based on past racial comments, including racial comments about the NFL.

Let's be specific. There are a number of emails going around with supposed quotes from Rush which have been shown to be fabrications (like the quotes supposedly defending slavery). You have the McNabb quote which is so stupid that anyone would think it's racist but it's being used anyway. Which comments are you talking about?

I think this is simply a continuation of recent history, an ugly part of which is the persistent effort by liberals to delegitimize conservatives and import political disagreement into every sphere of life.
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:54 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 30):
...and you bet your butt that his stamp on the team will both discourage some players from playing for him...

BS. They will jump on any team that will pay them, regardless of who is the owner. Hell, those guys would play for Al Davis if he offered them a lucrative contract.

Quoting D l x (Reply 30):
and will discourage some people from being fansof his team.

And if he manages to turn the team around and it goes off to win the Superbowl, guess what? Nobody will care who owns the team, as long as they see results.

And stop with this racist crapola. Players will play for him if he offers them money; they'll quickly put their opinions aside as long as they get paid.
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:00 pm

Now that the Player's Union has spoken, it's not possible to separate the political aspect.

Oddly enough, I agree with both Dreadnaught and DLX...but with a grain of the truth that I'll add here:

Limbaugh is a divisive person. Yes, it's his right to purchase a team (subject to the approval from all other owners), but I still oppose it. Forget his comments about McNabb (although that is a legitimate argument against Keith Olbermann commentating on NBC...political commentators should have no place in sports), Limbaugh will always be associated with the right wing. And people on the left wing will get all up in arms over him.

If he owns the Rams, people will associate the Rams as somehow "Republican". Then someone needs to have a "Democrat" sports franchise. He could completely disavow politics, but the fact is that there are people on the opposite end of the spectrum from him that are just as eager to ruin everything for everybody with political BS (and vice-versa...imagine if Al Franken bought the Minnesota Vikings!).

Thus, what was once a great sport, football, will be destoryed by politics.

It goes to show that men like Coulter, Moore, Maddow, Olbermann, Beck, Limbaugh, et al, are truly evil people who seek to ram their ideology war down every aspect of American life!

Not just American life either...look at A.net. Look how Democrats and Republicans TERRORIZE this site with their pointless and ultimately made-for-tv war.

We need to oppose this! Say NO to Limbaugh owning the Rams, and petition NBC to kick Olbermann off NBC's Football Night in America!

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Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 22):
I'm not the only one worried about his racial comments affecting his team.

From the article:

Limbaugh, who grew up in Missouri about 100 miles south of St. Louis, is an avid sports fan who once said that "the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons."

But, the McNabb quote:

"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

does not sound racist to me. It simply sounds like he thinks the media wants a Black to be a quarterback to play well. Does he? Doubtful. But, it sounds to me like he was talking about the media in general.

Now, do I think he is racist? Absolutly!

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Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:19 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 34):
Now, do I think he is racist? Absolutly!

I don't see those quotes as racist (well, the bone one is pretty insensitive, but considering that I have never seen anyone in the US wear a bone in their nose, it's pretty irrelevant).

As far as being a hypocrite, that shouldn't bother you. I consider everyone on the left to be hypocrites, because they claim to be looking out for "the little people" but promote every policy possible to ensure that they remain "little". So I don't see why Rush's painkiller addiction gets you all uppity.
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:21 pm



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 33):
If he owns the Rams, people will associate the Rams as somehow "Republican". Then someone needs to have a "Democrat" sports franchise. He could completely disavow politics, but the fact is that there are people on the opposite end of the spectrum from him that are just as eager to ruin everything for everybody with political BS (and vice-versa...imagine if Al Franken bought the Minnesota Vikings!).

You know, I have never cared for what the owners political opinions are. Never researched them, never had an issue with it. They could be communist for all I care, but at the end of the day, I ask myself, "Really, does this affect me at all?" I mean, do I really care of owners political spectrums? All I want to see is results on the field, nothing else.

So by all means, let Franken buy the Vikings, I DON'T CARE! If that team is a Super Bowl contender for 10 years, yay! More good football. If it self destructs, damn, another team to walk all over. I want good football, and the Rams are quite possibly on their way to be the second team to be 0-16. If Rush can change that, he should go for it.

Why people are making a political issue of this is beyond me, when its clearly just a business transaction.

I guess I'm going to start to having to judge all of you when you buy, oh let's say, a car now. That's fair, right?
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:29 pm



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 36):

You know, I agree with you. My point wasn't that we SHOULD judge the Rams based on the owner, rather that they WILL be judged, namely by Limbaugh's political opponents. And Limbaugh likely wouldn't resist the temptation for a fray.

This is just one aspect of life where I don't have to worry about some asinine political war getting wedged in. I want to keep it that way. We already judge others based on what state they're from (red state vs. blue state). Why the hell should someone see me as a Bears fan then try to associate me with a political party!?

Sorry, but the Democratic and Republican wing nuts can go find some other aspect of American life to show up uninvited to...

Sports is something meant to transcend these kinds of petty boundaries. Hell, in the First World War there is a story of allied and German troops playing soccer in No-Man's Land as a break from the fighting. Why ruin the NFL? They have other more internal issues anyways.

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Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 37):

For the record, my post wasn't directed at you completely, but general audience.

I'm sure Rush is smart enough to keep his political ideologies separate from team ownership. It's the people who try to connect the two is ridiculous.

That's like saying Southwest is Airbus racist because they don't own any Airbus aircraft.
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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 35):
As far as being a hypocrite, that shouldn't bother you. I consider everyone on the left to be hypocrites, because they claim to be looking out for "the little people" but promote every policy possible to ensure that they remain "little

Roger that .

Imagine liberals ....supporting the stoppage of a business transaction for perceived intolerance by the buyer. Insane ... it really is a mental disorder I believe . So if I say something perceived as "racist" I should not be able to buy a car or a house from someone ... god they are just over the edge.

And who pray tell is going to stop Rush from doing it ? Do the liberals support getting congress involved or will they just hire ACORN to hold signs out side of NFL HQ? This is going to be interesting ... Rush has a plan here to expose them ...just not quite sure how it is going to work out yet. Go Rush !
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Ra

Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:45 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 31):
Let's be specific. There are a number of emails going around with supposed quotes from Rush which have been shown to be fabrications (like the quotes supposedly defending slavery). You have the McNabb quote which is so stupid that anyone would think it's racist but it's being used anyway. Which comments are you talking about?

there is no need to be specific, and the merits or detriments of Limbaugh's comments are Not* really the debate. The undeniable truth is that MANY people believe limbaugh is racist on some level, and most people can see him as devisive. Yes he is strongly loved by a certain sector of the population, but he is hated by a much larger sector. He gas built quite a bit of wealth exploiting exactly that, and has done very little to quell the idea that he is racist.

Appearance is everything!! Truth matters little. (oh the irony!) Limbaughis going to have to fo some serious image repair if he wants his divisive nature to lose it's effect on his football bottom line. Don't think the NFL owners aren't aware of that.

Here's another thought for you: what do you think limbaugh's position would be on the Rooney Rule? Don't you think that would have an effect on whether the other owners would let him into their club?
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Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 32):
BS. They will jump on any team that will pay them, regardless of who is the owner. Hell, those guys would play for Al Davis if he offered them a lucrative contract.

you might be right about the scrubs, but black players with options will steer clear if they can, and black stars won't touch him with a 20 foot pole.

Wake up Jake, rush might be bad for business!

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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:52 pm



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 38):
I'm sure Rush is smart enough to keep his political ideologies separate from team ownership. It's the people who try to connect the two is ridiculous.

I don't know why you'd assume that. It only took him what, two weeks before he inserted his politics when he was on Espn.
 
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:53 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
you might be right about the scrubs, but black players with options will steer clear if they can, and black stars won't touch him with a 20 foot pole.

Wake up Jake, rush might be bad for business!

So TWO vocal players are now the majority of the NFL?

Hey AGM and Dreadnought, let's gang up on DLX and say we're the majority what represents the country!  Yeah sure

Sure, some players probably won't play for him, but I guarantee you 99.9% of the players who want to get PAID (especially big $$$) will.
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:02 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
Wake up Jake, rush might be bad for business!

Why ? I have been a Steelers fan all my life ... a born in PA type. Rooney and the ownership of the Steelers are big Obama supporters . I understand it , and I know how to separate it when it comes to sports . Rush is not a racist ... he is a white republican though ... now adays that is enough I guess.
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:06 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
there is no need to be specific, and the merits or detriments of Limbaugh's comments are really the debate.

Specifics are everything here. The accusation is that he is racist because of a number of quotes attributed to him. Some of them are pretty horrible and I can understand why people would get upset about them.

The problem is that many of them are complete fabrications, and others taken out of context. This site for instance traces one of the fabricated ones:

http://maaadddog.wordpress.com/2009/...o-rush-limbaugh-is-a-damnable-lie/

Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
The undeniable truth is that MANY people believe limbaugh is racist on some level

Because they have been bombarded by BS. 99% of the people you talk about have never even listened to his show. I've been listening to him for around 3 years, and I have never heard him say anything I would construe as racist or prejudiced. Similarly, I don't recall him ever evangelize - Leftists like to paint him as a hard-core republican, implying all the religious BS. I suspect that Rush is agnostic or even atheist.

Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
Yes he is strongly loved by a certain sector of the population, but he is hated by a much larger sector.

Those people who only hear of him 3rd hand.

Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
He gas built quite a bit of wealth exploiting exactly that, and has done very little to quell the idea that he is racist.

Why should he have to? Should the people accusing him offer proof? Just living your life fairly should be enough, no?

Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
Appearance is everything!! Truth matters little. (oh the irony!)

And the smell of BS. Appearance is meaningless - truth matters. The hard part is getting to the truth.
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:16 pm



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 42):
Hey AGM and Dreadnought, let's gang up on DLX and say we're the majority what represents the country

Look ,DLX puts the wood to me all the time .. he is more intelligent , better looking and gets allot of action ..fear not he can hold his own. So stop ganging up on me ... Big grin
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:17 pm



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 42):
Hey AGM and Dreadnought, let's gang up on DLX and say we're the majority what represents the country!  

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 42):
Sure, some players probably won't play for him, but I guarantee you 99.9% of the players who want to get PAID (especially big $$$) will.

99.9% of players are scrubs man! Do you think mcnabb would play for him? Vick? TO? Adrian Petersen? Etc? Do you think the Rams have talent now?

Do you really think players don't care where they play? White black or other, that's just an incredibly myopic view that history shows is false. Eli would not play for the chargers is a great example.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 43):
Why ? I have been a Steelers fan all my life ... a born in PA type. Rooney and the ownership of the Steelers are big Obama supporters . I understand it , and I know how to separate it when it comes to sports .

Rooney (a republican, btw as are most owners AND players!) does not exist primarily as a political commentator, nor has he ever expressed divisive comments.

I think you guys are on the wrong track comepletely. If has little to do with rush being a republican. It has everything to do with his being harshly divisive and racially incindiary.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 43):
Rush is not a racist

Doesn't matter. Lots of people think he is, and that alone is bad for business.
 
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:23 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 46):
I think you guys are on the wrong track comepletely. If has little to do with rush being a republican. It has everything to do with his being harshly divisive and racially incindiary.

So you support my opposition to Rush owning the Rams? Nice. Will you also support punting Keith Olbermann back to his political program and out of the commentator's chair at NBC? The petition to keep these political divisive scumbags needs all the support it can get!

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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:27 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 46):
It has everything to do with his being harshly divisive and racially incindiary.

Incendiary ?? Like Orielly said last night to the writer from the trib .. name one incendiary comment. ? The guy could not ... its all just smoke and mirrors for the left to have there enemy. Rush supports minorities .... minorities who get off there ass and join in the economy. He does not support unionizing welfare recipients and giving out free-bees to those who do not earn it. He is a fiscal conservative ... period.
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RE: Limbaugh, Checkets Interested In Buying The Rams

Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:03 pm



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 37):
You know, I agree with you. My point wasn't that we SHOULD judge the Rams based on the owner, rather that they WILL be judged, namely by Limbaugh's political opponents. And Limbaugh likely wouldn't resist the temptation for a fray.

With the exception of Jerry Jones, who owns the Cowboys, Bob Craft, who owns the Patriots, and Mike Brown, who owns the Bengals (and I only know that one because of being a Bengals fan), I couldn't tell you who the owners of the other 29 NFL teams are, including the Giants.

Quoting D l x (Reply 40):
you might be right about the scrubs, but black players with options will steer clear if they can, and black stars won't touch him with a 20 foot pole.

Yet Rush Limbaugh's call screener, is black. Hmmmm.  scratchchin 

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 44):
Leftists like to paint him as a hard-core republican, implying all the religious BS.

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Rush spends most of his time focusing on the economic and taxation and national policy side. Hannity will go into religion frequently, but I can't recall any serious religion tirades from Rush.

Quoting D l x (Reply 46):
Eli would not play for the chargers is a great example.

Eli would have played for the Chargers if his dad hadn't worked out a deal. Otherwise he wouldn't have had a choice. But the fact that T.O. would still go to Dallas, even after getting rocked while kneeling on the Dallas Cowboy's Star years before, shows that you are wrong about some players, and they will follow the money.
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