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Apocalypse In 2012? Even The Maya Are Sick Of It

Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:23 pm

I still can't believe all the hype behing this doomsday crap in 2012. I went to an elementary school on a community service project a few months ago and I remember one of the kids telling me that school isn't important becuase the world is gonna end in 2012. Are people really this gullible? Has history not shown them how dumb it is to believe in this doomsday stuff? (remember the Y2K crap?)

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Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:59 pm

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Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:17 pm

Yeah there a movie coming out next month, people love that stuff and they love to equate it with the wars and problems going on in the world. It's hype and its about fear just like the Bible end times pushers and the gullible people who believe it.

The 2012 movie will probably do well with the followers of the "Left Behind" series of books and movies.
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:27 pm



Quoting 2707200X (Reply 2):
It's hype and its about fear just like the Bible end times pushers and the gullible people who believe it.

NOOOOOOOOO! The Israelis still have to invade Samoa before Jesus can return! Big grin
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:37 pm

Throughout history, there have been those who have predicted the end of the world. To date, every one of them has been wrong.

I believe all that will happen on 21 Dec. 2012 (the end of the Mayan Calender) will be the galactic alignment they predicted. This alignment happens about every 26,000 years, or so. Astronomers are now seeing this is going to take place, and getting telescopes ready around the world. I believe the Hubble will also be involved in these observations.

I believe in God and the Bible. There are many things mentioned in the Bible that have not happened, but must happen before the Battle of Armageddon, such as the rapture, the arrival of the anti-christ, the seven years of his rule, the seven seals broken, and the four horsemen riding. All of this is in the Book of Revelations.

BTW, even the Biblical Battle of Armageddon does not end the world. There will be 1000 years of peice after God's and Jesus's forces prevail at Armageddon, according to the Bible.

I know many people here don't believe in the Bible. That is fine, I have no beef about that. I just believe the Bible, and the fact that it does not say exactly when the world will end.

No Mayan that I have heard has ever believed the world will end after the long count concludes at the end of the 13th Baktun on 21 Dec. 2012.

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Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:46 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
There are many things mentioned in the Bible that have not happened, but must happen before the Battle of Armageddon, such as the rapture, the arrival of the anti-christ, the seven years of his rule, the seven seals broken, and the four horsemen riding. All of this is in the Book of Revelations.

You do realize that the Bible was actually written by human beings and not some divine power?  Wink

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
when the world will end.

We know exactly when the world will end. In about 5 billion years when the sun finally runs out of fuel. But how arrogant can we (humans) be to think we'll actually survive 5 billion years? I think humans would be extinct long before the end of the world happens.
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:01 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
I believe all that will happen on 21 Dec. 2012 (the end of the Mayan Calender) will be the galactic alignment they

So you're saying you do believe the world will end on Dec 21, 2012? If you are, you realize that in the bible, it says that no man shall know when Jesus returns, right. Then if that's true, how can the whole world be sure that Dec 21 2012 is the end of days? Something is wrong somewhere.
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:11 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
y

So you're saying you do believe the world will end on Dec 21, 2012? If you are, you realize that in the bible, it says that no man shall know when Jesus returns, right. Then if that's true, how can the whole world be sure that Dec 21 2012 is the end of days? Something is wrong somewhere.

I believe he is say that he does NOT believe the world will end....
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:02 am



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
So you're saying you do believe the world will end on Dec 21, 2012?

Where does he say that? He says the only thing that will happen is the alignment thing. Unless you believe that the alignment spells the "end of the world", then there's nothing to worry about.



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
We know exactly when the world will end. In about 5 billion years when the sun finally runs out of fuel. But how arrogant can we (humans) be to think we'll actually survive 5 billion years? I think humans would be extinct long before the end of the world happens.

There's a difference between when the world will end and when the earth will be destroyed (or no longer sustain life).

Too me, the 'world' ending means a fundemental change in the circumstances that affect our existance. Not at a local or regional level, but at a global level. Something that will change everything. What will that be? Who knows? When? Maybe it will be when the Sun dies, but more than likely, it will happen well before that.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
You do realize that the Bible was actually written by human beings and not some divine power?



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
I know many people here don't believe in the Bible. That is fine, I have no beef about that. I just believe the Bible, and the fact that it does not say exactly when the world will end.

Too me, The Bible provides 'theologic truth', but is not historically accurate. But, that is another thread.
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:26 am

Maybe if the Cleveland Browns AND the Detroit Lions both have undefeated records leading up til then, maybe there'd be something to worry about!!  duck   duck   duck 

Nah, if every single prediction of the end of the world would've been correct, then it would have ended about 10 times within a very short span.

So what if this allignment should occur? Wasn't there some gallactic allignment before? We're still alive, breathing, and beating, right? I'm thinking there will be a few earthquakes and perhaps a volcanic eruption, all in the Pacific Rim region (ring of fire). That's about it IMO... Hey, kinda like what happened just last week or so...
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:40 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
I believe in God and the Bible.



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
f you are, you realize that in the bible, it says that no man shall know when Jesus returns, right.



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
Biblical Battle of Armageddon does not end the world. There will be 1000 years of peice after God's and Jesus's forces prevail at Armageddon, according to the Bible.

I think the Bible and Jesus are irrelevant in this so called "end of the world." The Maya believed in a whole different set of gods and a whole different set of outcomes. I think the Bible really should have no impact on this story. The calender will just reset itself and start the next level (the piktun) in the Long Count calender, which until soon, hasn't been past 0 yet. The calender really won't truly reset itself until the 19th alautun level, but that's millions of years from now.
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:55 am



Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 8):
Where does he say that? He says the only thing that will happen is the alignment thing. Unless you believe that the alignment spells the "end of the world", then there's nothing to worry about.

Jeez, nothing to get upset about, I was just asking because it wasn't clear. But reading it a couple more times, I can see what he meant. Guys calm down, you're at a 10 when you need to be at a 2
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:59 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 9):
Maybe if the Cleveland Browns AND the Detroit Lions both have undefeated records leading up til then, maybe there'd be something to worry about!! duck duck duck

You forgot the Cubs will win the world series!


In all reality this has as much proof behind it as people who say the government will kill us all for oil. Just a load of BS
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:16 am



Quoting 7324ever (Reply 12):
You forgot the Cubs will win the world series!

Oh, crap! You're right!! They haven't won the World Series since, what... since McKinley or Teddie Roosevelt was President?
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:20 am



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 9):
Maybe if the Cleveland Browns AND the Detroit Lions both have undefeated records leading up til then, maybe there'd be something to worry about!!

I've already said it will be the Bengals and Lions on the way to a Super Bowl match up, and if that happens, I'm heading for the hills. I guess someone else is thinking along the same lines.  wink 
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Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 14):
Bengals and Lions on the way to a Super Bowl match up

Eh... but the Bengals have been to the Super Bowl before, after the 1982 and 1988 seasons if I'm not mistaken (only to lose both times to the 49ers. Heck at least they weren't like the Bills and to make 4 straight Super Bowls and lose all four). Cleveland has not...
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:28 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
all that will happen on 21 Dec. 2012 (the end of the Mayan Calender) will be the galactic alignment

Will that do anything to the earth or it'll be just something nice to watch, like meteors, etc.?


And no, the world will not end in 2012. Anyways I'll be in Albania 28th of Nov. 2012 celebrating the 100th birthday of that country. lol

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Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:17 pm



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 13):
Oh, crap! You're right!! They haven't won the World Series since, what... since McKinley or Teddie Roosevelt was President?

IF you remember the cubs winning the world seris you remember, the model T being a brand new car for the masses, the titanic sinking, prohibition, the opening of the panama canal, and world war I  duck 
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Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:06 pm

The world won't end because of a very simple reason. It will never be 21st December everywhere in the world at the same time. While it's not 21st December on the westernmost point of Alaska, the prophecy can't fulfill. And when 21st December gets there, it is already 22nd December on the other side of the Bering Strait.

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Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:17 am



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):

You do realize that the Bible was actually written by human beings and not some divine power? Wink

*wanders into the thread*

*wanders out of the thread and closes the door tightly*

I think the Armageddon, Judgement Day, the End of the World, and the consumption of all by flames is going to start in this thread.  Wink
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:38 am

2012 will be the same as 1984: Just a plain, ordinary year.
 
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:26 am



Quoting 7324ever (Reply 17):
IF you remember the cubs winning the world seris you remember, the model T being a brand new car for the masses, the titanic sinking, prohibition, the opening of the panama canal, and world war I

Yup... I remember that alright, and 26 is just how I act and look! Big grin  old 

Given the Philles winning the WS last year, and given their current pursuit of a repeat, could that be a mark of the apocalypse, given their history?!!  duck 

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
I think the Armageddon, Judgement Day, the End of the World, and the consumption of all by flames is going to start in this thread.

Yeah, I can see that. We all post something to piss everyone off, and then everyone gets, well, flamed!!  flamed 

I declare e-Doomsday or I-doomsday!!

Coming to a forum near YOU!!  bomb   bomb   bomb 


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