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Blackberry VS I Phone. Which One Is Better?

Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:06 pm

Which one is better? What are the cons and pros?
 
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RE: Blackberry VS I Phone. Which One Is Better?

Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:12 pm

iPhone is clearly better, but BlackBerry is better suited for emails and texting. I have a BlackBerry because of BlackBerry messenger as most of my friends have it and therefore I can message everyone for very very little money. So if all your friends have a BlackBerry then get one, if not then I think the iPhone is better.
 
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Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:02 pm

Flip of the coin - depending on how you want to use it.

I'm not into texting - figured it's easier to simply call. The iPhone is fine for me.

Before deciding I would spend some time looking through the various apps that are available for the iPhone in the different area. You might be interested in FInance, Health, Games, Utilities, etc. Spend some time looking at the app descriptions, screen shots and user reviews. Check out both the free and paid apps.

With 100,000+ apps you could spend a month reviewing apps, but checking out the most popular free and paid in each category might be all you need to do to make a decision.

Also check out the information on the iPhone at apple.com for a good description of the iPhone itself.

Good luck on making a choice!
 
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Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:07 pm

"Better"? well that depends...

iPhone is more an end user device

Pros: there probably an app for that   touch screen (if that's a pro), large screen. Many limitations of the older models now fixed with V3.0 code. Can switch SIMs on the go (no power off needed). Fully OTA access to YouTube, other streaming media sites. Lots (thousands...) of apps (games, media, social networking, pictures, web... basically anything).

Cons: Typing is annoying, bug fixes are frequent and jailbreaking the device to allow non-approved apps to be loaded can cause the bug fixes to brick the device. Camera isn't great (no flash and slow CCDs). no SD card port. Email setup can be tedious with some email accounts. No UMA support. Battery "not replaceable". Eats data like crazy (aka $$$ on some carriers or while roaming). Device is fairly large.


BlackBerry is more an email device

also, which BlackBerry model? there are several.

the common pros: Easy setup for email, most models full QWERTY keyboard for typing, newest models feature good camera with flash on some models. Very stable OS, there is now an app store (BlackBerry App World) for BlackBerry devices. All current models have MicroSD card support (8, 16, 32gb max depending on model). Newest devices feature nice easy to use trackpad, older models feature trackball. UMA support on some carriers and devices (not all models have wi-fi, not all carrier have UMA service enabled), Battery is accessible. Data use is much better than other devices due to compression technology (down to 1/10th the data use of an MS Exchange Active Sync device to send same email), all email and pin messages are ciphered (won't say encrypted... email probably is, pin probably isnt).

Pros specific to 9700: same screen res as iPhone (though smaller dimensions), 4-5 day battery life even on wifi (but not bluetooth).

cons: Only Storm/Storm 2 feature full screen (and it's no touch but "click" screen, you have to press the screen to get it to do something), not intended for media watching, oldermodel trackball devices have frequent failure of the trackball (gunk gets in, gums it all up, newest models do not have this problem).

The "there is no real difference" list:

Phone quality is about the same on both
Battery life varies greatly depending what you have turned on
Bluetooth compatibility is about the same for both... no more to say.
GPS same (some BB do not have, though most do, and iPhone also has CPS allowing faster area lock, but fine lock and nav speed is the same)


My personal recommendations:

If you want it for email/text: BlackBerry 9700 Bold or 85xx Curve (newest ones)
If you want it to watch video, play games: iPhone 3GS
3rd option, look into Android phones, new Motorola Droid is a very nice device and IMHO better than iPhone, Android is gaining market share very fast.


Do NOT get:

Blackberry 8100/8200 series (Pearl), Windows Mobile devices, 1st Gen iPhone (non-3G, they are all out of warranty almost)


Oh yes, BTW, i support BlackBerry and iPhone...  Wink

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Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:58 pm

For me, it's (unfortunately) a no-brainer. Given the atrocious lack of reliability and small 3G coverage area of AT&T, I have no choice but to go with the BlackBerry on the Verizon network. I have a Storm and it's served me well.

The iPhone 3Gs is the better phone as far as non-phone features go. I've had lousy luck with Motorola in the past, so even though Droid looks interesting, it's not the phone for me at the moment. Plus it just seems a little "juvenile" in comparison.

There are some neat apps for the iPhone that you can get for the iPod Touch as well, so if you want the nifty features, that's another route to consider.
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Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:03 pm

iPhone 3G is what I've got. I use it heavily for email and text messages.

I'd recommend a 3GS, but I'm happy with my old 3G - it does the job well enough - poor battery life excepted (though I use it heavily with email/internet/WIFI).
 
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Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:30 pm



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 3):
Neither. Get the Droid.

 checkmark   checkmark   checkmark  My cousin just got one and I used (ok, took it over) for about two hours last night and it is AMAZING. The touchscreen keyboard is great, much better than the iphone, and the regular qwerty keyboard is a great plus. Video quality was great and the feel of the device was great. I want one so bad.

Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 1):
iPhone is clearly better,

Your opinion.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:24 am

I have both....Love the tactile keyboard on blackberry .... and great battery life...

Love Iphone for when stuck on crime scene and can watch videos on it(yes I know itunes but I use it and love it)....

Plus better Browser

If I could only have one I would chose the Iphone

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Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:50 am

How about the new Palm Pre instead.
The Pre marries the best of Blackberry with its work productivity features, and also many iPhone like features including good Internet. And unlike the iPhone you can multiple apps running at the same time.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:00 am

Definitely recommend an iPhone, although I don't and never have used a Blackberry.

Pros:
- Touch screen, very response
- Feels very tactile, and nice in your hands
- LOTS of really good apps.
- Video/iPod all in one.
- There are heaps more...just can't think of any atm.

Cons:
- Can feel very delicate, and expensive to fix if something goes wrong.
- Typing can be a hassle if you're into writing long emails all the time (although landscape keyboard has fixed that slightly)
- Call quality/coverage can be quite mediocre at times (depending on what network you're on).
- Battery life can be average as well (ONLY because users tend to use iPhone more for more extensive activities such as video viewing and 3D gaming - the apps tend to chew up alot of battery).
- Need to jailbreak to get custom software and features - can be a hassle.

Overall I'd say it depends if you're more of a business user or everyday consumer. Although saying that more business users are turning to iPhone for the Business Apps...

If you need some more help as to some pros and cons on the iPhone, check out this thread: The Official IPhone Thread (by A1ring23 Oct 25 2009 in Non Aviation)

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Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:11 am

It really depends on what you wanna use your phone for. I have a curve and the BB is amazing for "phone" usage. If you need a phone that is very reliable and very productive get the BB. But if you mostly wanna phone that u can browse the full web and use random apps get an Iphone.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:28 am



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 10):
- Battery life can be average as well (ONLY because users tend to use iPhone more for more extensive activities such as video viewing and 3D gaming - the apps tend to chew up alot of battery).

I'm sorry, 3G navigation EATS up the battery life in an iPhone 3G.

Fully (recently) charged iPhone, with no phone calls made or texting, just having it on - on a road trip, used it for about 1h 30mins, had only 20% of battery left. If you want music on, while you are browsing, that'll cost you 25-30 mins worth of battery life for the same activity.

I don't know if this is the way it's supposed to be - but it's been this way since day 1.

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Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:40 am

Honestly, it really depends on what you are using the phone for. If you send and receive a ton of e-mails a day, nothing is better than a Blackberry. If you care more about the internet, apps and the like, you are much better off with an iPhone or Android device. I switched from a Blackberry to a Motorola Cliq (called Dext in the rest of the world) which is the sister device to the Droid and the pros and cons are apparent. One of the big things that kept me off the iPhone (and the myTouch/HTC Magic) is the touch screen only keyboard, whereas my phone has a real, slide out keyboard to go along with an excellent touch screen one.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:20 am

I agree with most when they say it depends on Your needs. I have been on the Blackberry for 5 years recently and it was a flawless device for emails and texting and keeping in touch with my needs. I was not necessarily into the games, but I wanted a device to keep me connected with multiple email, phone, calendar and reminders. All those BB performed great.

My contract with TMO was up and I was looking for something new and fun as thatis what I wanted at this point in my life. I really never had an interest in the iphone to be honest and when the Android phones were coming into play, I researched and researched and really liked what they offered and what they Could offer.

I just switched 1.5 weeks ago over to Verizon and the Motorola Droid and could not be happier. This device is amazing and suits my needs. I will always be a BlackBerry fan (and was seriously considering the new Tmo BB Bold 9700 but again, wanted something fun and with a larger screen as I'm not a huge phone user and texter to be honest, but since I was paying for data, wy not get a better device with a larger real estate as well.

But research your needs. many sites to help out like crackberry and pinstack.
 
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RE: Blackberry VS I Phone. Which One Is Better?

Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:23 am



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9):
How about the new Palm Pre instead.

I have one, and it is FANTASTIC. Email, texting, internet (fabulous browser), lots of apps (more each day), full keyboard, and you can run up to 12 applications simultaneously. Whatever you want to do, it can do it.

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Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:38 am



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Which one is better? What are the cons and pros?

I look at these two devices the same way I look at Macs and PCs. If you have to do work, you want the Crackberry.
 
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:21 am



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 16):
I look at these two devices the same way I look at Macs and PCs. If you have to do work, you want the Crackberry.

I – like a growing number of people – work exclusively on Macs and I use an iPhone for work as well.

The thing is that the Blackberry is an email machine which is hardwired to RIM's routing servers. And that's it, basically, and even there it has its flaws.

The iPhone (like some of the other phones) is much more of an actual computer, with full internet access and a large number of much more complex applications than the Blackberry could ever accomodate due to its very limited system design.

The Blackberry comes from an era when data was outrageously expensive and complex operating systems couldn't ever be accomodated on a handheld device. But that era is pretty much a thing of the past.

As a consequence the Blackberry is basically just a terminal to RIM's servers, itself running a relatively weak operating system while the iPhone runs a much more complete Unix operating system with many desktop- or even server-class frameworks on board (it is a sibling of Mac OS X).

It makes quite a difference in what can be done on the machine, even when it's away from network access.

So if you don't have many needs beyond just mail, the Blackberry may be an option, but otherwise you'd be limiting yourself quite severely.

The onscreen keyboard on the iPhone is often cited as a deficiency, but in my practical experience it is simply a matter of getting used to – after a learning phase it doesn't put the iPhone at a real disadvantage even if it may look that way at first glance.

In the end it all depends on your needs and circumstances, but in the majority of the cases the iPhone will be the better choice.
 
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:50 am



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 3):
Neither. Get the Droid.

I have an iPhone, a Droid, and a BlackBerry Storm (the first is my own -- the second and third are because I vet them for security in a workplace environment.)

What I tell people, when I'm pressed for time, is that the Droid is the phone I would want if the iPhone did not exist, though the Droid (and Android) is clearly heavily influenced by the iPhone.

For security: BlackBerry > iPhone > Droid
For usability: iPhone > Droid > BlackBerry
For fun: iPhone > Droid > BlackBerry
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:53 pm

I've often thought about this myself and almost bought an iPhone.

I am the proud owner of the newest BlackBerry- the Tour 9630 and my frustrations with the Storm simply melted away.

I would seriously advise you to avoid the Storm. The keyboard, 'clicky' as it may be, is virtually impossible to use- instead of shooting out a balloon showing you the letter you're touching, it makes the letter glow. That's a problem when your fat thumbs and fingers cover over the glow. Plus it's S_____L______O______W.

I love the tactile keyboard and am impressed with the now rapidly growing assortment of applications.

As a Mac user, I was fed up with the lack of computability between my desk-top on OS X and my BB but RIM finally came out with a new desktop manager which seems to actually work.

I must say too that BlackBerry has been utterly amazing in its support- I have had a senior analyst on speed-dial and he has spent HOURS and HOURS on the phone with me working out solutions and the like.

However, I am still seriously considering an iPod Touch for all the cool apps and would intend to use it where there is WiFi access. These days, who needs an actual data account when all these WiFi services are around?
 
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:41 pm



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 19):
I would seriously advise you to avoid the Storm.

I've heard the Storm 2 is supposed to be WAY better than the 1st gen Storm.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:35 pm



Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):
I – like a growing number of people – work exclusively on Macs and I use an iPhone for work as well.

Very few people on this planet actually do or ever will do the majority of their work on a Mac. I know, you love Macs. Yes, they're fun and functional to a point. That said, the vast majority global workforce could not function on a Mac. Its is what it is.
 
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:54 pm



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 21):
Very few people on this planet actually do or ever will do the majority of their work on a Mac. I know, you love Macs. Yes, they're fun and functional to a point. That said, the vast majority global workforce could not function on a Mac. Its is what it is.

They couldn't...browse the web and run an office productivity application? That's most of what people do with their computers, even in enterprise environments. For most people, Mac OS X, Windows, Ubuntu, etc. are fully capable of performing the tasks those people actually need done. Now, performing those tasks easily and with minimal frustration is another matter entirely.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:13 pm

Blackberry is made in Canada right?

What about I phone?
 
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:56 pm



Quoting United Airline (Reply 23):
Blackberry is made in Canada right?

What about I phone?

RIM is based in Canada, devices are made/have been made in Canada, Hungary, Mexico and Germany

iPhone is made in China
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:36 pm

That depends on what you are looking for .... for me it is the BB Bold... had a pearl for over a year and never had any issues with the trackball.... wash my hands very often and do not use any hand creams  Wink

I love the keys as I use it all the time for my e-mail accounts, have 32gig extra storage.... fantastic, very good camera with a flash..., battery holds up far better then I expected...

So for me the BB is the better one...for now

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Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:48 am



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 21):
Very few people on this planet actually do or ever will do the majority of their work on a Mac.

We could debate the numbers (which are changing quite substantially as we speak) – but not just my experience is that you can do everything on a Mac that you can do on a PC (since every Mac can completely replace a PC), just a lot more beyond that and even the everyday stuff often with less effort and less frustration.

The iPhone/Blackberry comparison is a different issue, but the trend is similar.

Doing "what everybody else is doing" is not always the smartest choice.

I don't subscribe to the "elite" kind of thinking, but I certainly don't see much benefit in being the last one to clue up when there's a better way to get things done.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:03 am



Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 21):
That said, the vast majority global workforce could not function on a Mac.

We do. And they coexist very easily with the rest of the PC using people.

I use both. But I prefer the Macbook Pro for productivity. It is something that is dependable and reliable. I can count on its battery life when I'm out and about, and this is a 15" version with 4GB RAM. It's a real powerhouse of a machine. It has a great screen, a good keyboard and it is fairly light to carry.

When I need to use one of the laptop computers, it's the Mac I prefer. It does the job without bother or frustration.

And if I need to use Windows for something (usually to do testing on IE6 - a necessary evil), I have VMware.

And, come to think of it, I've been managing my email solely from the iPhone 3G for the last 2 months after my PC died (still waiting for a replacement mainboard from Intel). It works very well.
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:21 am

I've used the Palm Pre, the iPhone and the Blackberry Storm, and for a good business/personal mix, I think the Blackberry Storm is an excellent device. I've not yet tried the Storm 2, but I understand it's supposedly an even better user experience.
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:14 pm



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 20):
I've heard the Storm 2 is supposed to be WAY better than the 1st gen Storm.

lol- perhaps so but you have to realize that "WAY better" than being an "absolutely, irredeemably, a piece of crap" is merely "relatively crappy". ha ha!
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:52 pm

I'd like an iPhone, but all my friends who have it here in the States bitch constantly about AT&T Wireless' horrific 3G network. One of my friends who lived in NYC, got rid of his iPhone within two months because it got no reception at his office... in Midtown Manhattan.

So, I'm sticking with my Verizon Blackberry for the time being.

This will change when I pick up a MacBook. I work on a Mac at the office and so it would only make sense to use the most compatible mobile phone with both my computers.
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Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:13 pm



Quoting JCS17 (Reply 30):
all my friends who have it here in the States bitch constantly about AT&T Wireless' horrific 3G network.

It's all true. Every last bit. And it's not just the 3G network that is miserable...it's the network in its entirety. I've had "No Service" on Standford's campus, in Manhattan, in downtown Chicago, and countless other places. Voice quality is wretched. The "coverage map" does not in any way reflect reality. And 2 years of consistent coverage can suddenly...and permanently...drop to no coverage at all for no apparent reason.

Their customer service is good, but the network is a complete and utter failure.

That I stick with the iPhone despite the ineptitude of AT&T is a testament to how much I love the device. Just as every bad thing you hear about the AT&T network is true, I believe just about every bit of 'hype' and raving you hear about the iPhone is true. In my experience, the device truly is that great.

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Blackberry VS I Phone. Which One Is Better?

Very simply....the one that works best for YOU!  yes 

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Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:05 pm

Tesco are now going to start selling the iPhone in the UK now!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8378267.stm

At what point does the iphone cease to be considered trendy and become common as muck? I think we have now crossed that line!
 
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Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:17 pm



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 32):
Tesco are now going to start selling the iPhone in the UK now!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8378267.stm

At what point does the iphone cease to be considered trendy and become common as muck? I think we have now crossed that line!

What about Blackberry?
 
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Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:39 pm



Quoting Thebatman (Reply 15):

I have one, and it is FANTASTIC. Email, texting, internet (fabulous browser), lots of apps (more each day), full keyboard, and you can run up to 12 applications simultaneously. Whatever you want to do, it can do it.

I have one as well. What a wonderful piece. You should give your gmail address, my gtalk has few people as Mexicans just love mSN.. Sucks :S

1. the sliding keyboard could slide more smoothly.
2. the phone could have been sturdier.
3. developers need to work quicker on getting more apps out there.

Apart from that what a sweet phone. The card deck, the idea of having of various applications open at the same time. The keyboard is small but better than an on screen keyboard. You guys should check it out..
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:52 pm

So which one has more users? Blackberry or Iphone? Which is the latest Blackberry model?
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:23 pm

RIM sold 50 million BlackBerrys by February of this year. I think around 40 million iPhones have been sold, but by some measures, you should count iPod Touches, which adds quite a number of additional users to the platform (though not to the recurring revenue stream.)
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:49 pm



Quoting United Airline (Reply 35):
Which is the latest Blackberry model?

the latest models are the:

BlackBerry 9700 Bold
BlackBerry 8520/8530 Curve
BlackBerry 9520/9550 Storm2

Slightly older:

BlackBerry 9630 Tour


iPhone sells better for now, but BlackBerry still has more devices in use... different markets though.
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:50 pm



Quoting N328KF (Reply 36):
I think around 40 million iPhones have been sold, but by some measures, you should count iPod Touches, which adds quite a number of additional users to the platform (though not to the recurring revenue stream.)

Actually, Apple doesn't get any recurring income from the iPhone any more. (The initial deals with the providers have ended after only one year. The iPhone is now sold with conventional subsidies.)

Quite the opposite, in fact: As an iPhone user you get future firmware upgrades for free while iPod Touch users will have to pay for them.
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:02 pm



Quoting Klaus (Reply 38):
Actually, Apple doesn't get any recurring income from the iPhone any more. (The initial deals with the providers have ended after only one year. The iPhone is now sold with conventional subsidies.)

They may have received the cash, but they're not allowed to report it as income until the contracts are completed. Note that this rule is probably changing soon, but it is currently the case.
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:42 am

Which is the latest touch screen model of Blackberry? Does it include a keyboard?

What's the difference between the keyboard and the touch screen one?
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:05 am

I cant stand blackberry keys. That alone puts me off from ever having one.
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:15 am



Quoting Flanker (Reply 41):
I cant stand blackberry keys. That alone puts me off from ever having one.

Which one? The touch screen one or the keyboard one?

Why?
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:06 pm



Quoting United Airline (Reply 40):
Which is the latest touch screen model of Blackberry? Does it include a keyboard?

Storm2 (9520/9550), no keyboard, and its not a touch screen, its a click screen (you have to press the screen to commit an action, not just touch it). There is no true touchscreen BlackBerry, if you are commited to a touchscreen you want a iPhone, Droid, etc etc etc...
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:06 am

I'm a smart phone junkie and I can't believe I missed this thread!

First off, I don't own either device, but I've played around with most of the Blackberry models and the iPhone. To answer the question of which one is better, it really depends.

Blackberry is more for business users and it's the phone of choice. Mostly because it's a lot easier for companies to control security features (thought it's a pain in the ass for IT to set it up) and BB's email usability is the best for the business market. Because most Blackberries have a physical QWERTY, typing is much quicker, more tactile and easier. Batter life on most Blackberries is awesome.

On the flipside, Blackberries don't have so many apps and their web browsers aren't anything to write home about. They're more of a business-type device than something to use for all-round entertainment.

Some people have mentioned the Storm. Stay away from that! It's awful! Storm II is better, but it's really last year's technology and is what the original Storm should have been. It's OK, but it's not Verizon's best phone.

As for the iPhone, it has the best web browser and its touch screen is simply amazing. I don't mind typing on it and can type pretty fast. Of course, having the most apps of any smart phone, speaks for itself. Nobody else comes even close. And, the iPhone is the only phone where you can play some really good quality games. Mostly because it's the only operating platform that designers are willing to invest their time and efforts in.

Problem with the iPhone, at least in the US, is that you're stuck on AT&T, which is horrid. And you'd probably be stuck with them for a while since rumor has it that they just lengthened their exclusivity agreement with Apple. And because AT&T is the only US carrier with the iPhone, they screw and gouge customers for their horrible service. iPhone also has bad battery life and you can't replace the battery. And I don't like the fact that the iPhone camera doesn't have flash.

But if you're really good with technology, you can jailbreak your iPhone so it can work on tMobile. tMobile's 3G coverage is OK and their plans are much cheaper. I also heard that you can jailbreak an iPhone to work on Sprint or Verizon.

As for me, I have a Palm Pre and I love it. Honestly, I only got it because I was stuck with Sprint and I had a free upgrade, so I got the best thing that was available. I've added all these patches and hacks to my phone, so it's a pretty sweet device now. I can do stuff like record videos, type on a virtual keyboard, etc....all of which weren't available at first. WebOS is a powerful and easy to use operating system.

Biggest issues with the Pre are the lack of apps, lack of what is available when you first purchase the phone (though you can download patches and it fixes this problem), the battery life (but I have an extended battery which can last about three days) and on a personal note, I wish it had an easier way of editing MS Office documents. Right now, you can use the Palm OS Emulator and the Palm OS version of Docs2Go and the Pre really should have something available for WebOS directly. That's coming, but it's delayed.

So again, it all depends on what you're looking for in a phone. If you want entertainment, go with the iPhone. If you want an emailing or texting fiend, go with Blackberry (but avoid Storm!). If you want a good phone on an affordable plan like Sprint's, go with the Pre (or HTC Hero, but I'm not a fan of the Adroid operating system).
 
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:18 am



Quoting Corinthians (Reply 44):
Because most Blackberries have a physical QWERTY, typing is much quicker, more tactile and easier.

While physical QWERTYs are indisputably more tactile, many people (myself included) find typing to be quicker and easier on a good (read: iPhone) virtual keyboard.

Quoting Corinthians (Reply 44):
Problem with the iPhone, at least in the US, is that you're stuck on AT&T, which is horrid.

Absolutely. As much as I love the iPhone (and oh how I love it), I'm ditching it. After 2-2.5 years of consistent 1-2 bars of coverage at home, my coverage suddenly and inexplicably dropped to "No Service". And it's been that way for over 10 weeks now. So I got AT&T to release me from my contract without an early termination penalty.

I was leaning toward the Pre, but then two things happened. First, I found that I can't deal with the Pre's tiny keyboard. If it were 20-30% larger, maybe. But it's just too small.

And second, I just found out I am eligible for a corporate rate with Verizon....so 450 anytime minutes, unlimited data, and 250 texts/month is only $65/month for me. So I'm pretty sure I'm going with the Droid and will eBay my 3GS.

As much as I'll miss the 3GS, I think I'll be much happier with a phone that's 80% as good on a network that actually functions.  yes 

Quoting Corinthians (Reply 44):
type on a virtual keyboard

How difficult was it to install the virtual keyboard on the Pre?

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Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:39 am



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 45):
While physical QWERTYs are indisputably more tactile, many people (myself included) find typing to be quicker and easier on a good (read: iPhone) virtual keyboard.

It's a matter of preference. I actually prefer a virtual keyboard and am pretty good at typing on it, but there are many who like the physical one. And for those, Blackberry is the best. Nothing beats the BB Bold's keyboard.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 45):
Absolutely. As much as I love the iPhone (and oh how I love it), I'm ditching it. After 2-2.5 years of consistent 1-2 bars of coverage at home, my coverage suddenly and inexplicably dropped to "No Service". And it's been that way for over 10 weeks now. So I got AT&T to release me from my contract without an early termination penalty.

That's the problem Apple had when they signed with AT&T. AT&T was nowhere near ready to deal with the onslaught of data hogs iPhone users became. They were totally behind the game and when they finally rolled out their 3G service, they made a mess of it. Not to mention their service was never any good to begin with. AT&T is only around because of the iPhone. If or when Apple ends the exclusivity contract, they'll be finished. Rumor has it that Apple's going to release an iPhone for Verizon, but that remains to be seen.

Like I said, you can jailbreak the iPhone to work on tMobile. Their plans are much cheaper, but they don't have such great coverage.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 45):
I was leaning toward the Pre, but then two things happened. First, I found that I can't deal with the Pre's tiny keyboard. If it were 20-30% larger, maybe. But it's just too small.

I wasn't sold on the Pre at first, but after fooling around with it, I decided to give it a shot. I have no regrets. I can see people's complaints about the keyboard and it did take some getting used to, but I have no real problems with it now. Also with the Pre, you really don't have that many apps. That's changing, though. Still, it can't compete with iPhone's 100,000+ apps.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 45):
And second, I just found out I am eligible for a corporate rate with Verizon....so 450 anytime minutes, unlimited data, and 250 texts/month is only $65/month for me. So I'm pretty sure I'm going with the Droid and will eBay my 3GS.

As much as I'll miss the 3GS, I think I'll be much happier with a phone that's 80% as good on a network that actually functions.

I almost switched to Verizon too, but hedged when I saw their rates. I have an unlimited plan with Sprint and it's $99 a month. This is my only phone too as I don't have a land line, so I really needed an unlimited plan. A comparable plan on Verizon (or AT&T) would cost me at least $150 AND I wouldn't get some of the extras like GPS or TV like I do with Sprint. Luckily, Sprint recently came out with some really good phones like the Pre, HTC Hero, BB Tour and HTC Touch Pro 2. Also, Verizon has a reputation of scaling back the usage of some of their phones and controlling what apps their phones can have.

Personally, I think the Droid is overrated. I don't even think it's the best phone Verizon offers. Android is clunky. And really, the Droid isn't all that powerful. It has about the same processing speed as the iPhone 3GS. I have no idea why those commercials say it's much more powerful when it really isn't. Also, Verizon scaled back some of the Droid's features. For instance, the Droid doesn't have multi-touch (i.e. pinch zoom) on its web browser, though you have that feature with 3rd party apps. The European version of the Droid, the Milestone, does have this pinch zoom feature. I heard this was something Verizon asked Motorola and Google to omit. Why? I have no idea, but it's stupid. Droid's keyboard isn't that good either. AND it's virtual keyboard isn't so good since Droid's multi-touch features are disabled on native apps.

Best phone on Verizon now is the Samsung Omnia II, which just came out. Much better display, very fast processor, same price as the Droid, excellent for multimedia. It's a Windows Mobile phone and some people hate that operating system, but it's a sweet device!

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 45):

How difficult was it to install the virtual keyboard on the Pre?

Not difficult at all. I'm not so tech savvy and I still did it. You can find the instructions here:

http://www.precentral.net/

http://forums.precentral.net/webos-p...gs-functionality-enhancements.html

Virtual keyboard is pretty good and very usable, but you can't use it everywhere like you can with the iPhone. You can also download two virtual keyboard apps.

Pre by itself is a great phone, but if you really want to improve the functionality and make it among the elite, you really have to download some of the patches.
 
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:48 am



Quoting Corinthians (Reply 46):

Thanks for the info. Lots of food for thought...

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Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:23 am

There is IMO a disadvantage for both: The CrackBerry and the iPhone are pretty damn expensive. In Germany, you can only get them cheap if you sign up for a specific plan, otherwise, you may even pay up to the full purchase price.
 
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Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:14 am



Quoting Corinthians (Reply 46):
Personally, I think the Droid is overrated. I don't even think it's the best phone Verizon offers. Android is clunky. And really, the Droid isn't all that powerful. It has about the same processing speed as the iPhone 3GS. I have no idea why those commercials say it's much more powerful when it really isn't. Also, Verizon scaled back some of the Droid's features. For instance, the Droid doesn't have multi-touch (i.e. pinch zoom) on its web browser, though you have that feature with 3rd party apps. The European version of the Droid, the Milestone, does have this pinch zoom feature. I heard this was something Verizon asked Motorola and Google to omit. Why? I have no idea, but it's stupid. Droid's keyboard isn't that good either. AND it's virtual keyboard isn't so good since Droid's multi-touch features are disabled on native apps.

Everything is a matter of personal preference. I love love love my Droid and after four weeks of owning it I still find new and exciting things to do with it. I think 'pinch zoom' is overrated in my opinion and never understand why it's a deal breaker to some. Droid DOES support pinch zoom as you have mentioned however, provided the application supports it. You can download Dolphin Browser and Picsay which both do pi/zoom on the Droid among others. I personally couldn't care less for it, but everybody is different. Keyboard is fine for me and I'm a 6'3" guy with not small hands. I dont use the slide out one that often, but I have when I am writing longer items. I love listening to Pandora or surfing the net at the same time, or looking at my email or texting. The Droid is a very masculine phone IMO. Heavier yes, but very solid. It feels like a device. Sort of reminiscent of a Trussardi Uomo cologne vs. a modern CK. The Droid Eris is there also if one wants something a bit lighter and more rounded and softer with no pull out keyboard. It's wonderful we all have such great choices these days. Go for whatever is good for you!

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