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Lou Dobbs For President?

Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:59 am

From the LA Times, but there are multiple stories around the country:

[quote}The 64-year-old award-winning former radio/TV host, the son of a Texas propane dealer (no, gasbag jokes please), was asked on a radio interview today about this "crazy idea" floating around of him seeking the presidency of these United States.

His response: "What's so crazy about that? Golly!"

He elaborated slightly:

"Well, I’ll tell you this much -- it’s one of the discussions that we’re having. For the first time, I’m actually listening to some people about politics. I don’t think I’ve got the nature for it. [But] we’ve got to do something in this country and I think that being in the public arena means you’ve got to be part of the solution.[/quote]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/lou-dobbs-2012.html
 
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:14 am

I don't think so. Never elected to any office. Has never run anything as an executive. He's probably pretty well informed, but he would have even less experience than Obama.
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:18 am

Bit of a stretch, maybe a Senator but I have to say his tone seemed a little bitter after the CNN split and his PR is in the toilet as is so don't think we will see him in any office soon.
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:32 am



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
I don't think so. Never elected to any office. Has never run anything as an executive. He's probably pretty well informed, but he would have even less experience than Obama.

Our current President has never held a political office (unless being the head of IMF is a political office), and nowadays he's the most popular politician after former Chancellor Schmidt (out of those who are still alive).

OK, I'm not aware about the dynamics of US policy, but given that Lou Dobbs does have knowledge and has had much more public exposure than BHO in his entire lifetime before first going public in '04, it would not be that far fetched if he did at least run as a candidate at least during the primaries (I guess Dobbs would run for the GOP). Remember, if a steroid pumped former bodybuilder and actor from Linz (Austria) became the governor of California (and a Republican despite his wife being from the Kennedy clan), then I'm sure even a TV anchor could become President if he or she can prove that to the voters and their parties.
 
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:16 am

President, no. U.S. Senator from New Jersey, maybe. He's be an improvement over our current more corrupt than corrupt Bob Menendez who never met an illegal immigrant he didn't like. Lou, unfortunately, seems now to now be softening his tone in that area in a recent interview on Telemundo. Maybe that shows he's getting serious about being a politician but it's a darn unfortunate development for those of us who thought he was a champion of the Rule Of Law.
 
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:29 am

Well I think Lou has found out that your personal beliefs can conflict with politics. But I still believe Lou would be a good president..After all he is/was a econonics expert can't say that for our current commander in chief.. Plus he has a good stand on the border again something our president does not have. I know he is just a commentator but he has more of a grasp ( I think) than Obama...On what needs to be done. But like Obama has found out it is different when you are out on the campain trail than it is when you actually take the office.
 
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:46 am

Oh sure, he can run for president. It would be really interesting to see how he would plan to win votes from 10s of millions of immigrants (not illegal of course) living in the U.S. I personally don't think any radio or T.V. personalities should ever run for public office, because anything and everything will be used against them, and Dobbs would be a huge scapegoat for his controversial remarks on immigration.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 3):
Our current President has never held a political office

It's different in the U.S. because our elections are mostly based on popularity. How do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor of California? George Bush's father was once president, why do you think he got elected? Obama got the whole first black president thing working for him, even though he doesn't have much experience, he knows how to make a speech and work the crowd. It's all about popularity and unfortunately, Dobbs isn't very popular to a lot of Americans.
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Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:34 am



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
It's different in the U.S. because our elections are mostly based on popularity. How do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor of California? George Bush's father was once president, why do you think he got elected? Obama got the whole first black president thing working for him, even though he doesn't have much experience, he knows how to make a speech and work the crowd. It's all about popularity and unfortunately, Dobbs isn't very popular to a lot of Americans.

Point well taken. I do admit that in Germany, the Office of President is more ceremonial than politically powerful. But you are right, elections are not only based on policy but also on popularity.

For example in Costa Rica, Abel Pacheco only got to be President in 02 because of his grandfatherly charm and him being known from short programmes on TV, though he proved to be politically incompetent to such a degree, that he, along with former Presidents Rodríguez (who's under corruption charges) and Calderón Fournier (who was recently convicted of corruption) contributed to his party, the Christian-Social Unity Party PUSC, getting thrown into a crisis that made them lose their place as the second major political power in the country.
 
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:56 am



Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 5):
After all he is/was a econonics expert can't say that for our current commander in chief.

Yes but what Lou and the current Prez have in common is an Ivy League education. Can we please, for once, have a leader who is not either of a law or Ivy League pedigree? The only Prez fitting that bill since 1960 was Reagan.
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:04 am



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 8):

Yes but what Lou and the current Prez have in common is an Ivy League education. Can we please, for once, have a leader who is not either of a law or Ivy League pedigree? The only Prez fitting that bill since 1960 was Reagan.

Would be nice, but I don't evaluate the candidate based on where they went to school. On the other hand, I want them to be well educated. Tricky Dick wasn't Ivy, but he was a lawyer. I don't see why people rail against lawyers in politics. Lawyers have a natural proclivity toward involvement in law making. Non-lawyers are perfectly free to take an interest in politics if they want, but don't do it on the same scale.
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:52 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
On the other hand, I want them to be well educated.

Excellent educations outside of Ivy League schools are a dime a dozen. My concern is not so much where they went to school but the established track record of where Ivy Leaguers end up and what kind of friends they make along the way. The nice little club of politicians, bankers, insurance executives and appointees to government management positions comprised of Ivy Leaguers that bestowed the failings of the last 20 months on us has certainly produced a cloud of doubt over their collective ability to do much of anything well. The fact that they then bail each other out when in positions of power and ostensibly preserve their livelihoods despite massive failure is another tack on the board from where I'm sitting. The current President and his Dartmouth TS are only adding fuel to this critical fire.
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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:18 pm



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 10):
The fact that they then bail each other out when in positions of power and ostensibly preserve their livelihoods despite massive failure is another tack on the board from where I'm sitting.

I don't think that having a president who went to some state school would change that. By the time you've risen far enough to become president, you're going to have that circle of people who are going to bail you out. That's more of a commentary on the way our society works than one on the Ivy League.

Going to an Ivy League school shouldn't be a requirement, but it certainly shouldn't be a disqualifier.

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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:30 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 11):

I don't think that having a president who went to some state school would change that. By the time you've risen far enough to become president, you're going to have that circle of people who are going to bail you out.

Sure, but they are considerably less likely to have compatriots from their alma mater who are heading government agencies and multinational banks. That's the beef.
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Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:53 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
Dobbs would be a huge scapegoat for his controversial remarks on immigration.



Not immigration, ILLEGAL immigration. Dobbs has been demonized for his remarks MAINLY by those who are either openly or covertly for Open Borders and continued illegal immigration. Far Left groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and ethnic advocates like the National Council Of La Raza have distorted his remarks and painted him a racist to fit their agenda. Nothing could be further from the truth. Lou has repeatedly advocated legal immigration reforms while standing against blanket amnesty as is now being called for by mostly Latino activist groups. It's sickening some in Congress like IL rep. Luis Gutierrez and my own NJ senator Menendez have joined in this fallacious chorus of mindless Left-wing demagoguery. Lou is married to a lovely woman of Mexican-American descent. If you watched his show, you know he's not guilty of the tiresome "racist" and "xenophobic" slander hurled by the pro-illegal crowd, many of whom are the real racists, since they advocate for specific ethnicities. Would a National Counsel Of Caucasians fly today? No, they'd be labeled white supremicists. So how come we've a National Council Of La Raza which is Hispanic only? That's separatist, at best and racist at worst. So Lou has it right if you can hear him over the screaming zealots who shout down anyone who even criticizes illegal immigration. Wake up America, your country is being stolen from you by anarchists who want to tear down the Rule Of Law and leave our borders wide open, debase our society and culture and victimize our citizenry. Stand with Lou to fight against this insanity.
 
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Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:10 am



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 1):
I don't think so. Never elected to any office. Has never run anything as an executive. He's probably pretty well informed

Do you need even that much in your resume to be elected to the House of Represenatives?

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RE: Lou Dobbs For President?

Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:04 pm



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 8):
Yes but what Lou and the current Prez have in common is an Ivy League education. Can we please, for once, have a leader who is not either of a law or Ivy League pedigree? The only Prez fitting that bill since 1960 was Reagan.

Jimmy Carter was niether a lawyer nor an Ivy Leaguer, he graduated from the Naval Academy.
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