This is a completely bigoted law and shows the true tyranny of the majority.
In those churches where bells are of importance, they do.
|Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 1):|
I'm all for new culture and all that, but there's got to be a limit somewhere on preserving your own countries culture and religion.
So, you are against separation of church and state and for a state religion.
Will not happen in the US or Canada, because of far stronger constitutional protections. Would also be rather difficult to get something like this to pass constitutional muster in Germany.
|Quoting NA (Reply 6):|
Otherwise I would say lets build a gothic cathedral in Tehran for a change.
Hmm, I guess racism doesn't allow people to use Google, and sorry if they all aren't actually in Tehran:
|Quoting NA (Reply 6):|
Its not Anti-Islam, its pro Christian Europe. In this sense I´m ok with the vote.
So, you too have no interest in secular society or separation of church and state?
|Quoting Emirates773er (Reply 16):|
Read this news this morning and felt really good about being a Canadian. Such a law could never pass out here.
Wouldn't happen here in the US either. On balance, we do this stuff better than the Europeans do.
|Quoting BA (Reply 24):|
Christianity rules in Europe??? I thought Europe now has a strict separation of church and state after much of Europe was ruled by the Pope for hundreds of years?
|Quoting TheCol (Reply 27):|
I would favor an anti-noise law over an outright ban. I doubt anyone would want to hear bells or Muezzins at 0600.
I don't have a problem with that, though there are some who likely want to hear one or the other either hourly (with bells) or 5 times a day.
|Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 22):|
How can the majority of a democracy be tyrant ...
Why do you think constitutions exist in the first place?
|Quoting LTU932 (Reply 31):|
That being said, there are other ways to force people to integrate themselves. I'm not saying they should convert to Christianism or something, but we need to make it very clear to immigrants that, while the country offers freedom of religion to everyone, either they integrate themselves into society (e.g. by giving their women the full freedoms of the country and by learning the language), or they leave the country, simple as that
Integration has nothing to do with religious conversion. Further, while you attempt to take pot shots, every Moslem I have ever met from a European country has spoken the local language. The only ones who sometimes have trouble are their older parents or grandparents who naturally have a more difficult time. As for "giving their women" freedoms, I'm not sure what sounds more sexist, the practice of not allowing women to be free in the first place or your making it sound like women are property and it being a man's responsibility to give freedom to a woman. If a woman lives in a country with freedom, then she is free to act as she wants. If it means not seeing her parents, so be it.
|Quoting LTU932 (Reply 34):|
My father was an Italian guest worker recruited by Lufthansa Technik, and he adapted himself to German society.
It is hardly the same issue to talk about a skilled airline mechanic from a bordering country and unskilled railroad laborers from a completely different place.
|Quoting BA (Reply 37):|
I am all for immigrants integrating and assimilating in the Western societies that they immigrated to, but how do minarets prevent integration? And how does banning minarets help Muslims integrate?
It doesn't, but that never stops people from pretending this is an issue of integration and not xenophobia and racism. I think you and I can speak a lot more to the subject of integration of Moslems in a "Western" country than most of the people spouting off here.