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Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:47 pm

We're just three days away from the draw on Friday in Cape Town. Tomorrow there will be an emergency meeting of FIFA, and there is some pre-draw news.

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/futb...45&s=futbol/mundial2010&type=story (Spanish only)
http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_wm2010/artikel_180097.html (German only)

The FAI has submitted a request to become the 33rd team in the World Cup. According to press reports, Blatter actually laughed about it, and even said that if Ireland wants to be team number 33 over the Hand of Henry, Costa Rica may want to be team 34 because they feel cheated over an offside goal in Uruguay.

While I supported Ireland over their request for a replay, being team 33 would have been impossible. They couldn't expect that FIFA would grant them such a request, it's ridiculous. There has to be a point where it has to stop, though I do agree with them on one thing: Blatter IS an embarassment to FIFA. That being said, it appears as if this decision isn't final until the Executive Commitee has ruled on it. On another note, there may just be a possibility that Thierry Henry could be suspended after all.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:57 pm

Good that you started this thread, I just posted the following World Cup related post in the Bundesliga thread:
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I just read this article on Bild.de. They already have a picture of the official ball of the FIFA World Cup 2010 a few days before the official presentation by Adidas and the FIFA.

Here is "Jabulani":


Source: bild.de


Looks ok in my opinion.

Patrick

Edit:

In case someone is interested: Here are all official FIFA World Cup balls since they were introduced in 1970 (courtesy of fussballfan.ch).

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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:07 pm

Like I said in the Bundesliga-Thread, it looks OK though I personally prefer the Telstar, the Europass and the Tango based designs that existed between 1978 and 1998.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:53 am

Quoting LTU932 (Thread starter):
there may just be a possibility that Thierry Henry could be suspended after all.

Suspended for a Handball? Why? If the ref asked him and he lied maybe. Handball is penalized with a free kick and often a yellow card. Was Maradona suspended after his (Hand Of God) episode?

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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:59 am



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 3):
Suspended for a Handball? Why? If the ref asked him and he lied maybe. Handball is penalized with a free kick and often a yellow card. Was Maradona suspended after his (Hand Of God) episode?

I guess the issue is a fear on the side of FIFA that any repeat of such action, regardless of player, could further embarass the game. We're talking about FIFA, the same people who have been allowing doublestandards in football to happen for years because it suits them.
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:00 am



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 3):

Suspended for a Handball? Why? If the ref asked him and he lied maybe. Handball is penalized with a free kick and often a yellow card. Was Maradona suspended after his (Hand Of God) episode?

Ridiculous. If the ref didn't get it in the match, there should be no post-match penalty. It would be one thing if he had physically hurt another player, but a handball should not be a suspension. I mean, how about the German (can't remember who specifically) who committed a handball against the US in Japan/Korea 2002 that cost them a tie and overtime? I'm sure he wasn't suspended.
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:15 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
Ridiculous. If the ref didn't get it in the match, there should be no post-match penalty.

Germany does have post-match penalties in the Bundesliga. For example, if a player dives to get a penalty, and the referee doesn't see the dive and doesn't act, then the player can still be punished for it. And also, remember the Torsten Frings incident in 06, when he was suspended post-match for the Italy match in Dortmund, even though the alledged victim said that nothing happened between the two. I feel that they should be introduced, but in the hands of FIFA, chances are that this could backfire.
 
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Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:56 am



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 1):
Here are all official FIFA World Cup balls since they were introduced in 1970 (courtesy of fussballfan.ch).

i collected and still have the World Cup balls from 78-98. And where are they now, in a plastic bag in the garage. They will come out once i get my den built.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:58 pm

Some news:

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_wm2010/artikel_180518.html (German only)

There will NOT be a goal line referee this world cup, because there's not enough experience with them where they do exist (in the UEL). Plus, although the possibility is there that Henry could be suspended, Blatter told Henry himself over the phone that this will likely not happen.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/organis...ttee+approves+final+draw+procedure

The pots have finally been defined, and are vastly different from what Marca predicted:

Pot 1: South Africa (Host), Italy (Current World Champion), Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina, England, Netherlands

Pot 2: Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Korea DPR, Korea Republic, Mexico, United States, Honduras

Pot 3: Côte d'Ivoire, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Algeria, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay

Pot 4: France, Portugal, Switzerland, Greece, Denmark, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia

France is surprisingly (though justifiably IMO) not in Pot 1, which means that they have even bigger chances of getting a group of death. Plus the Netherlands has taken France's place in Pot 1. What will piss me off even more is the biching and moaning that will go on on ESPN Deportes (particularly that character Faitelson and his friend José Ramón) because Mexico was supposed to go to Pot 4 (under the reason that the CONCACAF region is the worst of all), yet they got to Pot 2 in the end.

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Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:31 pm



Quoting YooYoo (Reply 7):
i collected and still have the World Cup balls from 78-98.

Cool! I never thought of collecting them. I had an original Tango Espana, an original Azteca, and an original Etrusco. Me and my friends played with them until they were damaged.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 8):
France is surprisingly (though justifiably IMO) not in Pot 1, which means that they have even bigger chances of getting a group of death.

I hope so. Damned cheaters deserve to fly home after the preliminary round.

So, on Friday night I have to watch the World Cup draw, that means that I can only see the second half of the 2. Bundesliga Konferenz.

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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:51 pm



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 9):
Me and my friends played with them until they were damaged

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Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:10 pm



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 9):
So, on Friday night I have to watch the World Cup draw,

at what time is the draw? I'll be probably at work but hopefully it'll be during my lunch break !
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:22 pm



Quoting YooYoo (Reply 10):
We have 4 to 6 balls in our yard and they choose to dig that one out of the garage and play with it!!

Maybe they liked the design of the ball?  Wink Good that you saw it in time to save the ball from damage!

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at what time is the draw?

It starts at 7 PM local time in Cape Town (so it must be 2 PM local time in Buenos Aires).

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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:53 pm

Well I speak for everyone on Ireland when I say I hope France get a horrifically horrible draw and get nowhere! Ive heard people hear say that if France draw England, they would support England! Now thats is pure hate!
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:31 am

Prediction: France and Netherlands will end up in the same group, thereby making all the controversy over seeding totally useless! Big advantage to the unseeded South American teams with these pots since they will have a 1 in 3 chance to be drawn in South Africa's group while everyone else is 1 in 8 (or no chance at all). Looking forward to watching the draw on Friday, although I'm sure it will take about three excruciating, drawn out hours to do what could be done in ten minutes.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:35 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 8):
The pots have finally been defined, and are vastly different from what Marca predicted

What exactly are these for? Will the US be matched up with three other teams from its pot or can it be anyone else from the 32 team field?
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:28 am



Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 15):
What exactly are these for? Will the US be matched up with three other teams from its pot or can it be anyone else from the 32 team field?

There will be one team from each pot in each group, which are randomly drawn with the restriction that no more than two teams from one continent (other than Europe) can be drawn into the same group. So, the USA can't be drawn into the same group with anyone else from Pot 2 (which is a disadvantage since Pot 2 contains most of the weakest teams in the tournament), and will be in a group with one team each from Pots 1, 3, and 4.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:22 am



Quoting Teo747 (Reply 16):
Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 15):
What exactly are these for? Will the US be matched up with three other teams from its pot or can it be anyone else from the 32 team field?

There will be one team from each pot in each group, which are randomly drawn with the restriction that no more than two teams from one continent (other than Europe) can be drawn into the same group. So, the USA can't be drawn into the same group with anyone else from Pot 2 (which is a disadvantage since Pot 2 contains most of the weakest teams in the tournament), and will be in a group with one team each from Pots 1, 3, and 4.

Correct. The procedure is still somewhat tricky, because with Brazil, Argentina and South Africa, there are three teams that may cause conflict in the draw if another team from their respective continent is drawn. The only exception is, as you already mentioned, Europe with its 13 teams.

That being said, I hope Germany an easier group, like this one:

Germany
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Algeria
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:46 am

You know, I don't particularly care which team the USA draws from pot 1. It's who we get from pots 3 and 4 that will make it a good draw or not. This was the lesson for US fans from 2006. The only game we got a point from was against the seeded team (Italy).

Everyone points to South Africa as the dream draw from pot 1, but they forget that host countries ALWAYS advance out of the group stage. South Africa may not be very good, but neither was the USA in 1994. The other seeded teams are all formidable, but I honestly think there's a chance that with a little luck the US can beat any of them.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:14 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 17):
That being said, I hope Germany an easier group, like this one:

Germany always has Losglück.  Wink

Quoting Teo747 (Reply 14):
Prediction: France and Netherlands will end up in the same group, thereby making all the controversy over seeding totally useless!

If they end up in the same group, I sure hope the Netherlands repeat their Euro 2008 thrashing of the Bleus. Big grin
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:37 am

I never got around to mention this, but anyone read on the little joke Charlize Theron allowed herself during a pre-draw rehersal yesterday? When she drew France, she said instead "Ireland". Apparently, this joke upset FIFA.  rotfl 
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:48 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):
Apparently, this joke upset FIFA

So who cares? Good for her. About time somebody get a jab on them.
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:24 am



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 3):
Suspended for a Handball? Why? If the ref asked him and he lied maybe.

I was in Potsdam when the handball occurred and the only station with news in English in the hotel was France 24. Which was OK and interesting, but with the handball, it became fascinating because their sports correspondent on the English channel comes from Ireland. They nearly fell over themselves trying to be fair.
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:26 am

Before anyone ask about how the pots were decided:

Pot 1: The host nation + the 7 highest ranked teams according to the October 2009 rankings.

Pot 2: Teams from Asia (Australia, Japan, Korea DPR, Korea Republic), North- & Central- America and the Caribbean (Honduras, Mexico, USA), and Oceania (New Zealand)

Pot 3: Teams from Africa (Algeria, Cameroon, Côte d’Ivoire, Ghana, Nigeria) and South America (Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay)

Pot 4: Remaining European teams (Denmark, France, Greece, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland)

It's basically designed to prevent teams from the same region meeting each other too soon, in order to have an interesting mix for each group.

Personally, I'm crossing fingers for South Africa, North Korea & Ghana.

Or, since I'm apparently a traitor: Brasil, Mexico & Uruguay
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:55 am

In my opinion FIFA is one of those examples of an awful Bureaucracy, a lot of the rules it created are complex and sometimes unfair (eg The Fifa Two, ironically it was Ireland Again but at club level). It insists that the referees decision is final despite blatant cheating and some god awful calls from the officials. It also has this "higher than thou" attitude, this appears to be getting worse with Blatter at the helm.

Fifa can not seem to practice what it preaches, it wants us to play fair but they are unwilling to punish those who don't play fairly and then hide behind rules and old mistakes of the past.

In General Football has gotten worse, the English FA for example have introduced this "Respect" campaign, it is aimed with good intentions to stop players from harassing officials however it is now being abused by some officials. A number of Referees are making extremely bad calls on the pitch and the second it is questioned the players involved get a yellow card, if a manager complains after the match, he is cautioned by the FA (I'm not referring to Fergie as he is usually always out of order).

Some refs are so out of touch with the game that they shouldn't even be playing in the tenth tier of English Football, last season there was one ref who wrongly awarded a penalty which cost Spurs the game, post match he apologised to the Spurs manager saying it was a bad call, he then went and did the same thing this season, another one also screwed Manchester City over by booking the wrong player, then booking another one for something not even worthy of a free kick and then to make things even later in the match booked an opposition player for almost nothing.

Another example is how there are double standards, some teams can get away without punishment for their actions and yet other teams are punished (like Eduardo's diving incident, he was banned but then it was overturned). Bigger teams can get away with so much more, again like Arsenal vs Celtic.

I believe (and hope) that in the future many nations will break away from FIFA and form a new federation, of course this would only work if the major nations were involved and unfortunately the European nations would never do that.

There is so much I want to say on the subject but will refrain as it's almost time for my TV Programme... Though there is one thing that springs to mind, Fifa is Swiss, it's head is Swiss and doesn't Switzerland get on swimmingly with France? Exactly.

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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:42 pm

Something tells me Brazil will once again have the easiest group and Argentina the group of death. This pattern seems to reproduce quite often for the Brazilian team and I wonder if there's not some kind of thing behind this,.
Also If its not Argentina, its Spain who will get group of death
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:12 pm



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 18):
South Africa may not be very good

That's generous. We are godawful.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 20):
the little joke Charlize Theron allowed herself during a pre-draw rehersal yesterday? When she drew France, she said instead "Ireland"

I love it!
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:37 pm

From an English point of view, i'd be happy with Algeria, Slovakia, New Zealand/North Korea, there'd be no excuses. The irony would be if France or Argentina with their dismal and controversial qualifying campaigns, get to the final or even win it.
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:08 pm

Ready to go... any Europeans here have insides on which way the price fixers arranged the groups and matches?  innocent 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:40 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 17):
Germany
Honduras
Algeria
Slovenia

Yea you have to run into Italy sooner or later.   

I am watching now, great coverage by ESPN!

That guy from France just macked it with Charlize Theron! She is so BANGING HOT!

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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:08 pm

This draw almost feels like I'm watching the Miss World competition that will be held in South Africa in a few days!
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:11 pm

England vs USA, that should get the Colonials up in arms Big grin
 
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:11 pm

Great games so far! Mexico-South Africa, USA-Englad!
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:21 pm

Having Ghana in the group means trouble. I hope we don't get anything too difficult out of Pot 4.   

EDIT: Thank God it isn't neither Portugal nor France for us.  relieved 

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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:24 pm



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 33):
I hope we don't get anything too difficult out of Pot 4

Serbia  Wink

A bit so-so, eh?
 
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:25 pm

Netherlands, Denmark, Japan & Cameroun.

Very much so-so  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:28 pm

Group A is terrible!! WOW.

Group G is rough too for Brazil.

Then F and H.

Argentina got a rather mild draw, not the best but certainly not the worst and group B was the one group Argentina wanted to be in due to travel, which will not be much. Argentina got lucky this time.
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:31 pm

Italy finally gets a nice group! Paraguay is tough but I would take a draw that first game and from there they advance rather easily. FORZA AZURIIII!!!!!!
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:35 pm

I'm gonna go ahead and put this out there - USA will win all their 1st rd games.  duck   twocents 
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:38 pm

Well, France in group A is terrible news for us. Facing the host on the opening game doesn't help either.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:43 pm



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 37):
from there they advance rather easily.

You wish.  Wink

Here is the summary of all groups:

Group A:

South Africa (RSA)
Mexico (MEX)
Uruguay (URU)
France (FRA)

Group B:

Argentina (ARG)
Nigeria (NGA)
Korea Republic (KOR)
Greece (GRE)

Group C:

England (ENG)
United States (USA)
Algeria (ALG)
Slovenia (SVN)

Group D:

Germany (GER)
Australia (AUS)
Ghana (GHA)
Serbia (SRB)

Group E:

Netherlands (NED)
Denmark (DEN)
Japan (JPN)
Cameroon (CMR)

Group F:

Italy (ITA)
Paraguay (PAR)
New Zealand (NZL)
Slovakia (SVK)

Group G:

Brazil (BRA)
Korea DPR (PRK)
Côte d'Ivoire (CIV)
Portugal (POR)

Group H:

Spain (ESP)
Switzerland (SUI)
Honduras (HON)
Chile (CHI)

As for Germany, the group is neither a group of death, nor a group too easy for us. I guess it's overall a very balanced group with Australia being probably the weaker of the four teams. In fact, I don't think there really is a group of death this time, though perhaps Group G with BRA, CIV and POR could qualify for that. All groups appear to be somewhat more balanced overall.

The only bad thing is that since Mexico gets the inaugural match and what has been considered the "dream group" for them, Faitelson, José Ramón, and all the other characters from ESPN Deportes are going to rant about it.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:48 pm

Haha down with our masters, time to show England whos boss once again! Apparently our last game vs England in the WC was in 1950 and we won 1-0.

Group D is ridiculous-Ghana Germany OZ and Serbia...Serbia is the dark horse once again and I expect a HUGE improvement to that 6 0 loss vs Arg in 2006.

African teams got fu**** really hard. South Africa Ivory Coast and Ghana.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:48 pm



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 40):
You wish

Hehe, actually Italy always seem to have interesting trips out of group play but improve as they go through the tourney, well you know. (Del Pierro running behind the net as announncer yells "GOL GOL GOL"
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Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:59 pm



Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 27):
From an English point of view, i'd be happy with Algeria, Slovakia, New Zealand/North Korea

You received something close to your wish! England still have no excuse for not advancing.

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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:14 pm



Quoting RootsAir (Reply 25):
Something tells me Brazil will once again have the easiest group and Argentina the group of death. This pattern seems to reproduce quite often for the Brazilian team and I wonder if there's not some kind of thing behind this,.
Also If its not Argentina, its Spain who will get group of death

Yeah it's been a pattern, but finally this time I think Brazil got a far rougher draw. Portugal? And Ivory Coast with Drogba probably the best African team... To me Argentina's group isn't easy, but at least Argentina can say ''we can get wins from all three games''. But in group A and G, almost all the games are 50-50%!!

Also, Argentina got the best group of all 8: Group B. It's the one that requires least travel and on top of that Argentina chose to base itself in the location best for group B (Before knowing it). Then if Argentina wins the group, it woudn't need to travel for the round of 16 and quaterfinals either!!

I think Argentina got fairly lucky this time.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:23 pm

I like our group. This will probably be the first time the USA are expected to move out of the group stage. I think most people are penciling in England as Group C winners and USA as runners up.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:29 pm



Quoting Texan (Reply 43):
You received something close to your wish! England still have no excuse for not advancing.

Yeah how spooky is that? The USA should not be underestimated, but England should progress to the knockout stages minus a catastrophic screw-up.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:32 pm

With all the piss poor decisions made by refs recently, isn't it about time the video ref was brought into the game, it's added another level of excitement to rugby, I know it's pretty difficult to bring football up to lawn bowl excitement levels but anything is worth a try.
 
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:37 pm

My favourite World Cup final would be Italy/England. I see that Scotland is not there this time.
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RE: Football World Cup South Africa 2010 - The Draw

Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:48 pm

Can't really complain. A doable task for the Swiss squad (except for Spain)

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