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Alphanumerics Are Better Than All-numerics

Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:27 am

Well here is a matter of unparalleled triviality, but one that I can't seem to get out of my head (and a reason why I sometimes suspect I have Asperger's):

I like alphanumeric signifiers better than all-numeric ones. If it is alphamanumeric, it has letters as well as numbers, rather than just numbers. And I am more of a literary guy than a numerary guy, so letters make me happy.

My company's interoffice mail codes all start with a letter and are followed by 4 numbers, dash 3 numbers (T5359-012). I used to work for Polaroid, and their "cost centers" were letter-number-number. Mine was L36, which beats the one at my current company, where they're all 5 numeric digits. (However, my current company still exists; so it has that edge...)

Canadian and British postal codes kick ass for the same reason.

So, if you ever are tasked to assign new cost-center ID's for a major enterprise, or new postal codes for a whole nation, pr any other project that requires creation of myriad identifiers for things, do your pal stuey a favor and make them all alphanumeric instead of purely numerical.

There I said it; got it out of my mind. (Right, like it'll stay out of my mind now.)

Now lemme go find my meds. (Wonder which club is serving them 2nite...)
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:08 am



Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
I like alphanumeric signifiers better than all-numeric ones. If it is alphamanumeric, it has letters as well as numbers, rather than just numbers. And I am more of a literary guy than a numerary guy, so letters make me happy.

Using alphanumerics makes playing bingo easier for old people too.  Smile
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:32 am



Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):

Interestingly, I actually don't particularly like alphanumerics, for the simple reason that you can confuse "l" and "1" or "0" and "O".

That always really annoys me.
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:22 am



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 2):
Interestingly, I actually don't particularly like alphanumerics, for the simple reason that you can confuse "l" and "1" or "0" and "O".

If they are written properly that is not an issue, an 'O' is an 'O', a zero (0) should have a slash '/' through it, a '1' is a '1', an I should have '-' at the top and bottom.


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Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:31 am



Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 3):
a zero (0) should have a slash '/

Thats an Ø, letter number 26 in the danish alphabet Big grin

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Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:38 pm



Quoting Larshjort (Reply 4):
Thats an Ø, letter number 26 in the danish alphabet

I know that but I don't write in Danish, I write in a fictitous language called NATO English.....
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Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:39 pm



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 2):
the simple reason that you can confuse "l" and "1" or "0" and "O



Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 3):

If they are written properly that is not an issue, an 'O' is an 'O', a zero (0) should have a slash '/' through it, a '1' is a '1', an I should have '-' at the top and bottom

- That is why most U.S. states do not issue regular license plates for vehicles with the letter I or number o in license plates. They, at a distance, can be confusing for Law Enforcement officers.

- I agree that there should be a slash through the number 0 and I also believe that the number 7 should have a - through it as well. It makes it easier for everyone to read and understand.

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Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:56 am



Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 3):

If they are written properly that is not an issue, an 'O' is an 'O', a zero (0) should have a slash '/' through it, a '1' is a '1', an I should have '-' at the top and bottom.

I know, but since everyone writes their numbers and letters differently, one can never be sure.

Just one of those things that irks me.
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:07 am

I must say that I HATE alphanumeric and plain numeric titles for cars! I know it very "European" to mimic the alphanumeric titled Mercedes-Benz and BMW titles, but....

For example, the Lincoln MKS, MKZ, MZX, MKT, LS8, etcl. What the heck does MKT mean in the mind of the customer? Nothing at all, IMHO. Whatever happenned to the Continental, Town Car, Zephyr, etc.
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:49 am



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 8):
What the heck does MKT mean in the mind of the customer?

Well, nothing really, but it might be better than:

Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 8):
Continental, Town Car

...which, to me, mean "old folks' cars".  Smile
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:39 am



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 9):
...which, to me, mean "old folks' cars".

I was at a basketball game the other night and they announced that the driver of a white Town Car needed to move because they were blocking the handicapped spots. I commented that the white Town Cars usually were in the handicapped spots.
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Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:05 pm



Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Canadian and British postal codes kick ass for the same reason

Canadians know that it's "letter, number, letter, number, letter, number" but not many others do and I imagine that there are a lot of mistakes made, like the V2B 152 that someone wrote in our address book is actually V2B 1S2.



Quoting Airstud (Thread starter):
Well here is a matter of unparalleled triviality

You want trivial, I've got ultra trvivial - a question in Trivial Pursuit asked how many letters/numbers are in a British postcode, with the answer being "6"... except that the answer is wrong because it can be 5, 6, or 7 (e.g. Glasgow G2 6SP, Birmingham B31 5TQ, London EC1W 6CV)... and it was for a CHEESE too.

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Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:09 pm



Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 5):
I know that but I don't write in Danish, I write in a fictitous language called NATO English.....

What if your package is going to Denmark! stop being Narrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrow minded!
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Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:19 am

Well all we've got so far is

My company's mailcodes (T5359-215)

Canadian postal codes (M5W 1E6)

Bri'ish postal codes (KA27 8AA)

Ye olde bygone Polaroid cost centers (L36)

And, if you've ever used a Wells Fargo ATM, notice the ATM # on your receipt (eg, 2257Q).

But that can't be it - what about some of modern culture's other great alphanumeric identifiers??

Hey are there any in foreign alphabets, like Russian/Cyrillic, or...better than best...Amharic?

(yes Amharic. Amharic KICKS ASS.)
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Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:10 pm

Would it have KILLED any of the medical dudes here to tell me that ICD-10 codes are alphanumeric as well?

Back when I worked for CIGNA, ICD-9 was the coding system du jour and I had gotten pretty proficient with it.

Whenever we did not know the code for a condition someone was reporting, but we had to fill in the field (until we had time to go look up the real one), I'd always use "787.3."

Apparently under ICD-10 that's now "R14."
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Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:20 am



Quoting Airstud (Reply 14):
I'd always use "787.3

That is by far my favorite ICD-9 code.

When I was a paramedic I worked at a place that had this electronic charting system the billing people loved. Only problem was we, as providers, had to document everything in ICD-9 and HCPCS codes. There were huge binders next to the computers at every station, and it was a PITA to look them up all the time. Sure you eventually memorize the routine ones, but there is always that one you have to look up for every chart.

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