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Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:09 am

Really random question here: do you write your z's with a bar through the middle, or not? For me, it depends if I'm writing text or equations. In text, I don't cross the Z's, but in equations, I do, so that they don't get confused with 2's.

Oddly, I think of the uncrossed z as "zee," but the crossed z as "zed." Dunno why...
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:11 am

I guess you missed posting this as Friday's Stupid Thread.  Big grin Interesting question. I don't cross my z's and have never found a good reason to.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:11 am



Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
For me, it depends if I'm writing text or equations. In text, I don't cross the Z's, but in equations, I do, so that they don't get confused with 2's.

That's exactly how I do it as well.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:17 am

I cross my Zs and my 7s, and I used to add that diagonal line on my 1s, but Americans confuse that with an uncrossed 7 all the time so I stopped doing it.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:20 am



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 3):
I cross my Zs and my 7s

I do that too, as well as a slash across my 0 (zero). I also use "a" rather than the typical a written without the top part.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:59 am

I cross my Z's and 7's. My handwriting is not too good so it helps.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:07 am



Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
do you write your z's with a bar through the middle

Yep.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:10 am



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 3):
I cross my Zs and my 7s

same here.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:18 am

I don't tend to write many z's but if I do, it's how it appears here. Funnily enough though, I cross my 7's.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:24 am

No crosses through my Zs, nor are there any through my 7s. Also, no slash marks through my zeros.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:25 am

I cross my Zs and my 7s, plus like a good German, I don't write the 1 as if it was an I.  Wink

That being said, I don't put a slash on m Zeros, otherwise I'd have the Danish/Norwegian letter Ø (which IIRC is pronounced the same as the Swedish/German/Turkish letter Ö).

 
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:31 am

I cross my Z's only when doing math so that I don't confuse a "Z" Variable with the number 2.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:11 am

I learned German before English so I was taught to cross my "z" and "7" ... but I never could make my "1" look like LTU932s example.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:18 am

I never have crossed either my Z or 7. Sometimes I do confuse a z and a 2, but not enough to make me change. I also do not add the upper part to my 1, but I always make sure to add the top and bottom to the I.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:31 am

Interesting point.

I like to cross my Z and 7, but it creates a lot of confusuion in some places, especially in those countries where the latin alphabet is not used.

Just the other day while telling my bank to make an international wire for me I wrote the beneficiary name with a barred Z, which the teller read as an E (well, ok, my handwriting is terrible too) and messed up the whole thing. So I certainly won't do it here anymore.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:32 am

I have always crossed my 7s and z's. Many americans do cross them, and many do not. I've done it for many many years. as long as I remember. We dont do the "slash on the 1" as someone mentioned. when I lived in France, that was how it was done, but yes, it would look like an uncrossed seven.
 
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:50 am

I've never ever heard of people crossing their Z's and even if I did, I wouldn't do it, In most places where you're writing stuff down, especially for work, You want things to be as distinctive as possible, Sometimes my 2's look like Zs if I'm rushing to write something but if I crossed my Z's it'd look too similar to a 7, which I always cross.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:25 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
cross my Zs and my 7s, plus like a good German, I don't write the 1 as if it was an I.

Guess I’m a good German too, as I do exactly the same as you.  Wink
 
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:11 pm

I never used too cross either, but after dealing with Spaniards and Portuguese for years I found I starting crossing the 7's to avoid, for the 400th time, the question "is that a 1 or a 7?" I will also cross Z's and exaggerate I's if I have written out (airline) references for people.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:19 pm

I always cross both Zs and 7s. Mainly because my handwriting is really awful, but my mum crosses her 7s as it helps her at work, so I guess when I was learning to write I just got if from her. Zs is mainly because of doing German, and me just being me!

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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:19 pm

Cross my Zs, 7s, and 0s.



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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:40 pm



Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
I don't cross the Z's, but in equations, I do, so that they don't get confused with 2's.

Doing the exact same thing. I only cross my Zs in math.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:33 pm

No only my 7's ..........
 
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:16 pm



Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 5):
I cross my Z's and 7's. My handwriting is not too good so it helps.

same thing for me. anyway that i can differentiate my awful looking letters helps others tons.
 
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:22 pm



Quoting Yellowstone (Thread starter):
Do You Cross Your Z's?

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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:07 pm

Just as in Reply #10 I cross my Z's (zed here in Canada), I cross my 7's and I make my 1's with a front angled tail - hehehee - I just made up that description and I like it.

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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:26 pm



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
I cross my Zs and my 7s, plus like a good German, I don't write the 1 as if it was an I.

 checkmark  Same here, on all counts.  Smile
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:29 pm

I don't cross my z's but I do always cross my 7's (living in Germany as a child instilled that).

I will cross through a zero if it may be confused with an "O" (as in an alpha-numeric part number) but otherwise don't normally do it.

"1" and "I" can be tough but I almost never "angle the dangle" on the 1, I just clarify the "I" by crossing the top and the bottom.

The other letter/number that I have to be careful with are "S" and "5".

Quoting OA260 (Reply 23):
No only my 7's ..........

Your fingers and eyes too maybe.... ? Toes.... (never could do that myself)?  Wink

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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:23 am

Well I grew up with the system that had "data entry personnel" before there the idea of entering the data yourself was invented. Only a trusted employee's could enter data in the old Fortran an Cobal systems. So a standard was developed which we had to follow.

In a string of alpha numeric S's and 5's were designated by using a $ for S (slashed)
Z was crossed (slashed) 2's were not
The letter O was crossed (slashed) the number 0 was not.
Slashing a 7 was a no no which jolted my German background but I survived.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:20 am

I cross my Zs and 7s as I do my Ts  Smile

Sometimes, I cross my zeroes too.
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RE: Do You Cross Your Z's?

Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:44 am

Ive never crossed any of my letters or numbers. As a surveyor, Ive been taught to write neatly in microfont (I think it is) so that if my fieldnotes get copied, enlarged or reduced a number of times they are still legible.

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