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Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:39 am

The embodiment of "family values" gets divorced...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...2009/12/29/karl-rove-wife-divorce/
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:44 am

I hope someone plasters this on an election ad next time he works on a campaign. As much as I dislike McCain, what Rove and Bush did to him in 2000 was disgusting.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:08 am

Wait...someone married that guy?
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:27 am

Ah hypocrisy. How do we love thee...
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:33 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
I hope someone plasters this on an election ad next time he works on a campaign. As much as I dislike McCain, what Rove and Bush did to him in 2000 was disgusting.

Me too. What goes around comes around I say.

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 2):
Wait...someone married that guy?

Sad but true. They even procreated.  scared 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:49 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
Ah hypocrisy. How do we love thee...

He's not Catholic, last I heard. Where is the hypocrisy?
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:49 am



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):
He's not Catholic, last I heard. Where is the hypocrisy?

There is none, we are just getting more of Doc's loathing for the party he hates.

This is non issue folks.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:11 am

Maybe his wife wouldn't deal with his evil behaviors toward so many when he advised Bush and on Fox News. Maybe too it could be for reasons that millions of others get divorced. No big deal. It may be more honest than cheating on his wife with another woman or women.
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:18 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
I hope someone plasters this on an election ad next time he works on a campaign. As much as I dislike McCain, what Rove and Bush did to him in 2000 was disgusting.

I never knew how McCain kept from throwing up when next to Bush after the hatchet job he and Rove did on him in 2000.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:16 am



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
As much as I dislike McCain, what Rove and Bush did to him in 2000 was disgusting.

Even from this distance it stank.

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 2):
Wait...someone married that guy?

Exactly my thought when I read the title. Anyone know whether one should be sympathetic to the other party or assume she is a similar case?
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:11 am



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
The embodiment of "family values" gets divorced...

?? He is not a conservative Christian that I recall. Their one child is an adult. This is his second divorce. Where does the "embodiment" of family values come from?
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:15 am



Quoting DXing (Reply 10):
?? He is not a conservative Christian that I recall. Their one child is an adult. This is his second divorce. Where does the "embodiment" of family values come from?

You missed all those campaigns he ran for Republicans under that mantra?

Must be nice having selective amnesia like that.
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:36 am



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
You missed all those campaigns he ran for Republicans under that mantra?

Must be nice having selective amnesia like that.

He was "hired" to do the job. That in no way implies he has the same beliefs. Look at Dick Morris, he was advisor to President Clinton. Do you think he is a liberal?
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:42 am

Since when does getting divorced mean you don't have family values?

If you want hypocrisy then look no further than AlGore.

Too bad Rove wasn't around in 2008... perhaps we'd be digging out of the mess instead of digging deeper into it.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:27 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 12):
He was "hired" to do the job. That in no way implies he has the same beliefs.

DXing, how many liberals has he offered his services to?

This man was the architect of winning elections based on the "sanctity of marriage" and making sure the gheys were apprpriately oppressed. He is in fact the archtype of a hypocrit and your defense of him is beneath you.
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:17 pm



Quoting D l x (Reply 14):
DXing, how many liberals has he offered his services to?

Who knows? Do you? He operated his own political consulting business for several years. Who knows who bought his services. Besides that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage has nothing to do with divorce.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:51 pm



Quoting Baroque (Reply 9):
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 2):
Wait...someone married that guy?

Exactly my thought when I read the title.

I know, right? I actually thought he was gay.

Quoting DXing (Reply 10):
Their one child is an adult. This is his second divorce. Where does the "embodiment" of family values come from?



Quoting DXing (Reply 12):
He was "hired" to do the job. That in no way implies he has the same beliefs. Look at Dick Morris, he was advisor to President Clinton. Do you think he is a liberal?

Yet, when people work for Dems, they are automatically liberal, communist, socialist, marxist, nazi. Interesting.

Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage has nothing to do with divorce.

If marriage is so sacred, why not outlaw divorce? But, that is a topic for another thread.

My opinion is: So what? I never had much respect for the guy's opinions or what he did. So, he is getting a divorce. It happens. Why is this even a topic?
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:16 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 16):
Yet, when people work for Dems, they are automatically liberal, communist, socialist, marxist, nazi. Interesting.

Ummm... broken record much?

Anyway, it's always funny to watch liberals voice their absolute anger and an animosity towards a political opponent who happens to be going through an ordeal. It's almost like they are thrilled that a person, who they've never met, is going through shit. I've found in my own travels that the bigger the liberal the more angry, vengeful, and unhappy.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:45 pm



Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17):

Anyway, it's always funny to watch liberals voice their absolute anger and an animosity towards a political opponent who happens to be going through an ordeal.

It's based on the hatred of people having standards. For example, to the mind of a liberal , it is impossible for anyone to be a Christian, because we all occasionally fall short of the standards Christianity demands (the 10 Commandments, for instance).

Their way of dealing with that is the rejection of standards - ranging from the concept of a meritocracy, school grades, morality, and so forth, and the ridiculing and hatred of people who seek to have standards.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:55 pm



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 16):
Yet, when people work for Dems, they are automatically liberal, communist, socialist, marxist, nazi. Interesting.

Nope, they are hired guns. The people that hire them are liberals, etc., hired guns will be whatever you need them to be.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 16):
Why is this even a topic?

Hell has refrozen over.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:02 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
Quoting D l x (Reply 14):
DXing, how many liberals has he offered his services to?

Who knows? Do you?

Yes. Zero. You knew that as well, but you tried to play coy.

Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
Besides that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage has nothing to do with divorce.

Right, do you know why?
Because Karl Rove is a hypocrite!!

Any time you say it applies to you but not to me, you are a hypocrite. THat is the definition of hypocrite. I really don't know why you're defending him. Oh wait, yeah I do. Because he is a Republican.
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:18 pm

Do some of you actually believe the things that you write?

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17):
Anyway, it's always funny to watch liberals voice their absolute anger and an animosity towards a political opponent who happens to be going through an ordeal. It's almost like they are thrilled that a person, who they've never met, is going through shit. I've found in my own travels that the bigger the liberal the more angry, vengeful, and unhappy.

This is absolutely rich considering the fact that Karl Rove is known for his mudslinging and dirty campaign tactics. The reason some of us may chuckle when we hear things like this is because they confirms the absolute hypocrisy of the ultra right wing of the Republican party. When you fashion yourself as a 'family values', 'pro marriage', 'anti-gay' or whatever your favorite flavor conservative, your opponents WILL call you out when you do exactly that thing that you've chastised others for doing. Maybe if they just focused on their own issues rather than trying to dictate how we should all live, people wouldn't be so quick to judge them when they suffer their inevitable fall.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 18):
It's based on the hatred of people having standards. For example, to the mind of a liberal , it is impossible for anyone to be a Christian, because we all occasionally fall short of the standards Christianity demands (the 10 Commandments, for instance).

Their way of dealing with that is the rejection of standards - ranging from the concept of a meritocracy, school grades, morality, and so forth, and the ridiculing and hatred of people who seek to have standards.

Yet another example that conservatives have no clue as to what liberals actually embody but I suppose it all makes for good talking points. I know plenty of real Christians who practice their faith and strive everyday to be a better person. I also know a lot of Christian hypocrites who use their faith as a bully pulpit to preach hatred toward others. The notion that liberals believe that it is impossible for anyone to be a true Christian is laughable at best as is the idea that we reject the notion of standards. I have my own standards as do most people and I respect others for that. What I don't respect is those who try and impose their standards upon me as though their standards are somehow superior to my own.

Oh and to all the conservatives on here who are up in arms at the fact that liberals are reveling in another persons misfortune and downfall, I have two words for you: Bill Clinton.
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:20 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
Yes. Zero. You knew that as well, but you tried to play coy.

 sigh  It's like shooting fish in a barrel.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove

In 1981, Rove founded a direct mail consulting firm, Karl Rove & Co., in Austin. The firm's first clients included Texas Governor Bill Clements and Democratic congressman Phil Gramm, who later became a Republican congressman and United States Senator.

Are you taking lessons from Seb146 on how to not look before you leap? Of course somehow this will be derided as some sort of "deflection" so you can avoid having to admit your mistake. Don't worry, I'm used to it now.

Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
Any time you say it applies to you but not to me, you are a hypocrite.

 sigh  How do the two have anything to do with each other meaning gays and divorce for him to be accused of being a hypocrite about? Has he ever been quoted as saying that divorce is wrong? Let's look before we leap this time shall we?
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:25 pm

Quoting DXing (Reply 22):
n 1981, Rove founded a direct mail consulting firm, Karl Rove & Co., in Austin. The firm's first clients included Texas Governor Bill Clements and Democratic congressman Phil Gramm, who later became a Republican congressman and United States Senator.

You're seriously going to argue that Phil Gramm is/was a liberal? Democrat does not automatically equal liberal but then I'm sure you already knew that.

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Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:33 pm



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 8):

I never knew how McCain kept from throwing up when next to Bush after the hatchet job he and Rove did on him in 2000.

I don't either.

Quoting DXing (Reply 22):
Democratic congressman Phil Gramm, who later became a Republican congressman and United States Senator.

You lent credence to his argument with that one. The only kind of "liberal" Gramm ever has been is in his attitude toward banks, which is a major reason for the mess we are in now.
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:45 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
You lent credence to his argument with that one. The only kind of "liberal" Gramm ever has been is in his attitude toward banks, which is a major reason for the mess we are in now.

Not really. The early Gramm was liberal, as liberal as Texans would allow, and when the political wind shifted he changed sides. Reminds me of a certain Senator from Pennsylvania.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:03 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 22):
In 1981, Rove founded a direct mail consulting firm, Karl Rove & Co., in Austin. The firm's first clients included Texas Governor Bill Clements and Democratic congressman Phil Gramm, who later became a Republican congressman and United States Senator.

LOL!!!

Do you know who Phil Gramm is?

It's hardly a mistake. I mean, it says right there near the beginning in the very source you cited, "Rove was a Republican political consultant and strategist."

 rotfl 

Quoting DXing (Reply 22):
Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
Any time you say it applies to you but not to me, you are a hypocrite.

   How do the two have anything to do with each other meaning gays and divorce for him to be accused of being a hypocrite about?

In your own words, the sanctity of marriage applies to gays, but not to divorces. In other words, gays getting married is abhorrent to marriage's sacredness, but the DESTRUCTION of marriage is not. Can't get much clearer than that.
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:13 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 25):
The early Gramm was liberal, as liberal as Texans would allow

 rotfl  rotfl 

Not correct on either account.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:16 pm

Karl Rove's second marriage in divorce court? It couldn't have happenned to a nicer neo-con  box 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:52 pm



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 5):

He's not Catholic, last I heard. Where is the hypocrisy?

Unless I'm mistaken, he's made a lot of statements on "family values."
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Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:28 pm



Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
Do you know who Phil Gramm is?

Yes. He was a democrat turned republican. He served as a Represenative as a democrat and when the tide turned changed to republican to get a Senate seat. His major pieces of legislation are all co-sponsored by democrats.

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
It's hardly a mistake. I mean, it says right there near the beginning in the very source you cited, "Rove was a Republican political consultant and strategist."

YOU asked how many liberals he offered his services too. At the time Phil Gramm was a democrat and liberal leaning. Again, as before, you asked the question leaving the door wide open and didn't like what walked in.

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
In your own words, the sanctity of marriage applies to gays, but not to divorces.

Where did I say the sanctity of marriage applies to gay individuals? I'm pretty solidly on record as being against gay marriage.

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
In other words, gays getting married is abhorrent to marriage's sacredness, but the DESTRUCTION of marriage is not. Can't get much clearer than that.

Makes no sense at all. But then as usual twist it the way you have to to make the point in your mind.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 27):
Not correct on either account.

Correct on both accounts.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 29):
Unless I'm mistaken, he's made a lot of statements on "family values."

Any republican of any stripe that gets a divorce is automatically accused of being a hypocrite on family values. Nice to see the selective side of liberals is alive and well. When you come up with some quotes please post them.

What's really funny is when you search for the quotes, the amount of unbridled hate on the various websites from the supposedly "tolerant" left is simply amazing.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:42 pm

I get a kick out of this vid.

Then again, maybe it's just another amazing example of unbridled hate from the tolerant left.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjpAYwbFQE&feature=player_embedded

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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:13 am



Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17):
Ummm... broken record much?

Just pointing out reality. Ever listen to right-wing talk radio or watch FOX news?

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17):
It's almost like they are thrilled that a person, who they've never met, is going through shit. I've found in my own travels that the bigger the liberal the more angry, vengeful, and unhappy.

Tell me, when, exactly, did I ever "thrill" that Rove is getting a divorce?
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Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:55 am



Quoting DXing (Reply 30):

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
In your own words, the sanctity of marriage applies to gays, but not to divorces.

Where did I say the sanctity of marriage applies to gay individuals? I'm pretty solidly on record as being against gay marriage.

You misinterpreted what he said. He meant that in your words, the "sanctity of marriage" is an argument that can be used against gay marriage, but not divorce.

Quoting DXing (Reply 30):

Quoting D L X (Reply 26):
In other words, gays getting married is abhorrent to marriage's sacredness, but the DESTRUCTION of marriage is not. Can't get much clearer than that.

Makes no sense at all. But then as usual twist it the way you have to to make the point in your mind.

Makes perfect sense. You are arguing that gay marriage is more destructive to the sanctity of marriage than voluntarily backing out of those sacred vows.

You know what "Protect Marriage" amendment I'd vote for? One that would make divorce illegal (except for cases of abuse or other extreme situations). That way, people would think before they jumped into marriage, understand the gravity of the decision, and understand that marriage isn't a walk in the park, but is something that takes effort and time to make last.

I plan to be married once, to the woman I truly want to spend the rest of my life with, have a family with, and who feels the same about me. To me, that's what marriage is about and if there's anything "sacred" about marriage, that is it.

Quoting DXing (Reply 30):

Any republican of any stripe that gets a divorce is automatically accused of being a hypocrite on family values.

Anyone who talks down to others about the importance of family values and then gets a divorce (probably over something like money or infidelity, I'm sure) is a hypocrite on family values.
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Quoting San747 (Reply 33):
You misinterpreted what he said. He meant that in your words, the "sanctity of marriage" is an argument that can be used against gay marriage, but not divorce.

I understood it completely. Since I am against gay marriage it follows that there would be no gay divorce.

Quoting San747 (Reply 33):
Makes perfect sense.

Not when you don't believe that gays have a "right" to be married to begin with.

Quoting San747 (Reply 33):
Anyone who talks down to others about the importance of family values and then gets a divorce (probably over something like money or infidelity, I'm sure) is a hypocrite on family values.

Disagree. Especially in this situation where the only child is an adult.
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Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
Quoting San747 (Reply 33):
Anyone who talks down to others about the importance of family values and then gets a divorce (probably over something like money or infidelity, I'm sure) is a hypocrite on family values.

Disagree. Especially in this situation where the only child is an adult.

So the vow (in front of a man of God, no less) that goes "Till death do us part" means nothing? So, you are saying, as long as there are no children under 18, divorce is acceptable? Is that what the church stands behind?
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Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:48 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 30):

Any republican of any stripe that gets a divorce is automatically accused of being a hypocrite on family values. Nice to see the selective side of liberals is alive and well. When you come up with some quotes please post them.

Well, if you are a member of a party that has family values and opposition to gay marriage on the grounds of the "sanctity of marriage" as a large plank of its platform, then that's what it is.

If the GOP would tell the religious wackos to go away and focus on public policy, rather than private policy, I might actually vote for GOP candidates.
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Quoting DXing (Reply 12):
He was "hired" to do the job. That in no way implies he has the same beliefs.

Oh, lovely. Et tu, Brute?

Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 13):
Too bad Rove wasn't around in 2008... perhaps we'd be digging out of the mess instead of digging deeper into it.

You mean the one that Rove and his fellow neo-cons got us into?
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Quoting Seb146 (Reply 35):
So the vow (in front of a man of God, no less) that goes "Till death do us part" means nothing? So, you are saying, as long as there are no children under 18, divorce is acceptable? Is that what the church stands behind?

Even the Catholic church, as restrictive as it is, allows for an annullment of a marriage under certain circumstances that allows a Catholic, once married, to marry again in the church so no, the to death do us part is not forever binding. Most other churches are even less restrictive. If there aren't any children involved then "family values" kind of goes out the window automatically. As to is that what the church stands behind I guess you have to say which church? There are a lot of them and there are some varying rules between them.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):
Well, if you are a member of a party that has family values and opposition to gay marriage on the grounds of the "sanctity of marriage" as a large plank of its platform, then that's what it is.

Sanctity of marriage has so much more to do than any single issue such as divorce. Did he cheat on or beat his wife? Did he beat his kid? The divorce, according to reports, is amicable and desired on both sides. You can try and drag gay marriage into this all you like but it's a different argument altogether.
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:33 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 38):

Sanctity of marriage has so much more to do than any single issue such as divorce. Did he cheat on or beat his wife? Did he beat his kid?

Quite disingenuous as the issues you present are actually fairly modern, socially acceptable grounds for divorce. A true conservative would support a man's historic right and prerogative to engage in all of the actions listed.
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:42 pm



Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 39):
A true conservative would support a man's historic right and prerogative to engage in all of the actions listed.

I don't think conservative is quite the word for it in contemporary context - someone who supports actual individual rights and freedom is libertarian  Smile
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:17 pm



Quoting DXing (Reply 38):
You can try and drag gay marriage into this all you like but it's a different argument altogether.

Yes. An argument that you are having an extremely difficult time making.

Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
Quoting San747 (Reply 33):
You misinterpreted what he said. He meant that in your words, the "sanctity of marriage" is an argument that can be used against gay marriage, but not divorce.

I understood it completely.

No, I think you whiffed on it. You are in fact being the definition of a hypocrite. You say sanctity of marriage applies to some but not to others. Specifically, it applies to gays, but not to divorcees.

Quoting DXing (Reply 30):
YOU asked how many liberals he offered his services too. At the time Phil Gramm was a democrat and liberal leaning.

No.

Phil Gramm was a Democrat. But he has never been a liberal.

You should give up on the argument that Rove 1) has ever helped a liberal and 2) Rove is just a hired gun that doesn't share politics with those he consults.

Quoting DXing (Reply 30):
Where did I say the sanctity of marriage applies to gay individuals?

here:

Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
Besides that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage

 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:33 am



Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 39):
A true conservative would support a man's historic right and prerogative to engage in all of the actions listed.



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 40):
I don't think conservative is quite the word for it in contemporary context - someone who supports actual individual rights and freedom is libertarian

Beat me to that one.

Quoting D L X (Reply 41):
You are in fact being the definition of a hypocrite. You say sanctity of marriage applies to some but not to others. Specifically, it applies to gays, but not to divorcees.

As stated sanctity of marriage encompasses much more than divorce. On at least one level gays even with the scientific advances of today, cannot complete one part of marriage that the Roves did. Again, gay marriage is not in the argument here.

Quoting D L X (Reply 41):
Phil Gramm was a Democrat. But he has never been a liberal.

Phil Gramm in his day, like Arlen Specter today, fit whatever mold he thought was necessary to win the election of the day.

Quoting D L X (Reply 41):
Quoting DXing (Reply 30):
Where did I say the sanctity of marriage applies to gay individuals?

here:

Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
Besides that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage

So you're reduced to cherry picking quotes to make your argument fit? Guess we're done here. The full quote:

Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
Besides that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage has nothing to do with divorce.

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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:56 am



Quoting DXing (Reply 38):
The divorce, according to reports, is amicable and desired on both sides.

Of course it is. Who in their right mind would want to be married to Karl Rove let alone sleep with him?  vomit   Big grin
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:07 am



Quoting DXing (Reply 42):
So you're reduced to cherry picking quotes to make your argument fit? Guess we're done here. The full quote:

Quoting DXing (Reply 15):
Besides that "sanctity of marriage" as it applies to gay marriage has nothing to do with divorce.

Why don't you explain why the second half of your sentence somehow says that sanctity of marriage doesn't apply to gay marriage when the first half does.

These are your own words. I'm just trying to figure out what the hell they mean.
 
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RE: Karl Rove Gets Divorced

Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:17 am



Quoting D L X (Reply 44):
Why don't you explain why the second half of your sentence somehow says that sanctity of marriage doesn't apply to gay marriage when the first half does.

These are your own words. I'm just trying to figure out what the hell they mean.



Quoting DXing (Reply 38):
Sanctity of marriage has so much more to do than any single issue such as divorce. Did he cheat on or beat his wife? Did he beat his kid? The divorce, according to reports, is amicable and desired on both sides. You can try and drag gay marriage into this all you like but it's a different argument altogether.

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