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Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:51 pm

Hello Everyone,

This is my first new thread, as I am recently new to airliners.net. Sorry if this has been asked before.

"Hypothetically speaking", what if a person has an illegal substance on their person or in their carry on, but it is not something which would pose a risk to an aircraft. If the TSA people see it, will they bust you, will they call the appropriate authorities, or will they let it pass since, technically speaking, it is not their mandate.

By illegal substance, I basically mean illegal drugs such as marijuana, etc.

Thanks in advance.

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RE: Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:55 pm



Quoting Airplaneguy (Thread starter):
If the TSA people see it, will they bust you, will they call the appropriate authorities, or will they let it pass since, technically speaking, it is not their mandate.

If nothing else, considering that TSA officers are federal officials I'm sure they'd call the cops and hold you until they show up.

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:58 pm

The TSA is not a law enforcement agency, but they will certainly call law enforcement if they find something that is illegal. Almost all US security checkpoints have a local law enforcement presence, often just a few steps away.

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:59 pm

Considering drugs are illegal in 99% of all countries, I wouldn't risk it unless you like the idea of going to jail for it, basically.

EDIT: I just saw you're a teacher. Consider yourself unemployed too if you're caught.

[Edited 2010-01-12 16:03:24 by ajd1992]
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:37 am

I know of a few people who have somehow been busted for fake IDs in their wallets (I think it was incident to a random search or something like that) and were charged with identity theft.

Just curious though, what about in California (and a handful of other states) where one can posses pot legally? If you had your prescription card/weed permit/whatever it is on your person, would they stiff confiscate it?
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:43 am

The TSA will reffer the matter to local law enforcement. It happens daily -- Remember back to when Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston were found to have pot in their luggage in Hawaii?
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:09 am

Thanks for the replies everyone. Prudence definitely wins the day.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:57 am

I would ask yourself these two questions:

1) What do I have to gain by taking pot with me on this trip?
(Answer: I get to toke up on vacation)
2) What do I have to lose by taking pot with me on this trip?
(Answer: I have a criminal record, might do some jail time, certainly have a court date and mandatory classes to take, pay a fine, and probably lose my job).

In my opinion, the risks far outweigh the benefits.
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RE: Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:44 am



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
The TSA will reffer the matter to local law enforcement.

Not true. If you're found to possess any amount of marijuana or related paraphernalia and are caught by Federal security personnel from any Federal agency, TSA included, you could face Federal drug charges ranging from simple possession to possession with intent to sell to drug trafficking. Even though possession of marijuna for medicinal purposes is legal in some states (mine included), under Federal law, possession of marijuana is punishable by up to one year in jail and a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first conviction. Leave your dope at home, teach.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:16 am



Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 8):
Not true. If you're found to possess any amount of marijuana or related paraphernalia and are caught by Federal security personnel from any Federal agency, TSA included, you could face Federal drug charges ranging from simple possession to possession with intent to sell to drug trafficking. Even though possession of marijuna for medicinal purposes is legal in some states (mine included), under Federal law, possession of marijuana is punishable by up to one year in jail and a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first conviction. Leave your dope at home, teach.

I have yet to see Federal agents cart off anyone here locally. Arrest are done with local agencies. Prosecution maybe local or Federal I suppose, but local law enforcement handles the booking.
(for example in the Whitney Houston case I mentioned above, her case was in a Hawaii State district court, not Federal court.)
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:36 am

However if you find yourself in Oakland Airport, AND possess a medical recommendation for marijuana will, Alameda County sheriffs will not bust you for up to 8 oz. of medication.

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Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:33 am



Quoting Johnboy (Reply 10):
However if you find yourself in Oakland Airport, AND possess a medical recommendation for marijuana will, Alameda County sheriffs will not bust you for up to 8 oz. of medication.

That's hilarious. Especially that it's 8oz. That's a good quart of the stuff.

I dunno. I personally have a medical license to protect. I'd consider flying with pot to be a horrible idea for my future and career and livelihood.

Besides, marijuana is so easy to find in this country that you can just get it when you get there if you want.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:05 pm



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9):
I have yet to see Federal agents cart off anyone here locally. Arrest are done with local agencies. Prosecution maybe local or Federal I suppose, but local law enforcement handles the booking.

I'm not disputing what you are saying or what you have witnessed at just one of the hundreds of primary airports throughout the country. I said you "could face Federal drug charges" in response to the post that stated the TSA "will" refer the matter to local law enforcement. That post gave the impression that, in all cases, TSA would not or maybe even could not get involved and would hand the person over to local authorities and that's simply not true. It's their discretion how to proceed.
 
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:15 pm

Airplaneguy, why not set this as an assignment for one of your students? Then you'll have the answer, and so will we.  Wink
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:35 pm

If you need to get toked up on your trip.... Buy it there, don't post pics on Facebook (you're listed as a teacher), don't bring any home, and have fun.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:17 pm

My guess is that the TSA would probably turn you in if they found drugs assuming that a) they actually caught them, which seems unlikely and b) they didn't keep them for their own personal use.

Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 3):
Consider yourself unemployed too if you're caught.

That's okay. I bet the TSA would hire him.  Wink
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RE: Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:33 am

I have heard that you are far less likely to get caught if you bring aboard "magical" baked goods, rather than pot.

Most TSA agents aren't going to start running the dogs past a brownie in your bag. That said, what do you have to gain...and what do you have to lose?
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:57 am



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
Most TSA agents aren't going to start running the dogs past a brownie in your bag.

None of them will, as TSA doesn't have easy access to drug dogs. Plus, it's a brownie. They would have otherwise no reason to suspect it was anything else. They're too busy looking for your shampoo.

Quoting Brick (Reply 2):
The TSA is not a law enforcement agency

Technically, they do enforce certain laws. But the agents themselves have no arrest powers, they may only detain until a sworn peace officer arrives to investigate further.

Quoting Brick (Reply 2):
but they will certainly call law enforcement if they find something that is illegal. Almost all US security checkpoints have a local law enforcement presence, often just a few steps away.

This is exactly what would happen.
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RE: Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:16 am

Didn't Michael Vick awhile back try and bring Marijuana on a plane with him? To make things worse, he hid it in a water bottle...  sarcastic 
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:01 pm



Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 18):
Didn't Michael Vick awhile back try and bring Marijuana on a plane with him? To make things worse, he hid it in a water bottle...

Yes.
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:47 pm



Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 18):
Didn't Michael Vick awhile back try and bring Marijuana on a plane with him? To make things worse, he hid it in a water bottle...

Nobody ever accused the man of being decent or intelligent.
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RE: Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:38 am

I've never really smoked pot, maybe a few times, but this thread makes me wonder why they don't have it in pill form? It would be easy to switch out your aspirin bottle with it.

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RE: Can TSA Bust You For Contraband...

Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:43 am



Quoting UAL747 (Reply 21):
I've never really smoked pot, maybe a few times, but this thread makes me wonder why they don't have it in pill form?

They do.

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