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Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:58 pm

I help a lot of people out if they have CPU problems, but I got hit with a virus last night on the computer I regularly use. I am using my other home CPU right now, but my other computer is still acting up.

I want to provide a few steps for anyone who might encounter this same virus. It is a powerful trojan virus which can take on a few different identities. After the trojan infects your computer, It automatically starts a bogus Anit virus program, and it has bogus pop-ups telling you that your computer is infected. The fake anti-virus that it chose to put on my comp. is called "Anti-virus Live". It will run this scan and tell you that your cpu has several virus and if you would like to remove them. Do NOT, proceed with that option. This program is used to steal your money. Basically, you input your credit card info, thinking you are buying a good antivirus, and instead, your credit card number is in the hands of criminals.

****Very important****: If you are wireless on a laptop, shut off your connection immediately, vice versa if you are using an ethernet cable, unplug it. Shut your computer down, you might have to hold down the power button. Don't try to start any virus scans, because the trojan won't allow you to, no matter how much you try. At this point, you can try to solve the problem yourself, if you are knowledgable with computers. If not, please call the manufacturer of your cpu for help.

This trojan changes your internet setting so you can't browse the web for help. Currently, that's what i'm looking for help with, hopefully I get it from my school's technology center.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:11 pm

What sort of sites were you on before or while you got hit by the virus? Do you do any gaming online or anything similar? Any idea where you got it from? Were you on IE or Firefox or another browser?
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:20 pm

This is a bog standard behaviour pattern for malware, it's only the details on what you're asked to do on the "infection" that will vary. It seems this trojan is actually quite simple to remove compared to many others, as it will be spreading only through the MS Explorer browser.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:33 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Thread starter):
I help a lot of people out if they have CPU problems, but I got hit with a virus last night on the computer
I regularly use. I am using my other home CPU right now, but my other computer is still acting up.

I want to provide a few steps for anyone who might encounter this same virus. It is a powerful trojan virus which can take on a few different identities. After the trojan infects your computer, It automatically starts a bogus Anit virus program, and it has bogus pop-ups telling you that your computer is infected. The fake anti-virus that it chose to put on my comp. is called "Anti-virus Live". It will run this scan and tell you that your cpu has several virus and if you would like to remove them. Do NOT, proceed with that option. This program is used to steal your money. Basically, you input your credit card info, thinking you are buying a good antivirus, and instead, your credit card number is in the hands of criminals.

****Very important****: If you are wireless on a laptop, shut off your connection immediately, vice versa if you are using an ethernet cable, unplug it. Shut your computer down, you might have to hold down the power button. Don't try to start any virus scans, because the trojan won't allow you to, no matter how much you try. At this point, you can try to solve the problem yourself, if you are knowledgable with computers. If not, please call the manufacturer of your cpu for help.

This trojan changes your internet setting so you can't browse the web for help. Currently, that's what i'm looking for help with, hopefully I get it from my school's technology center.

Your best chance at getting rid of that yourself are to go to an uninfected computer, download Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware and a good free antivirus program like avast! from TRUSTED sites, and putting them on a flash drive, booting up your computer in safe mode, and running each of them several times. You'll also want to do several boot-time scans with the antivirus program. Then run them all again in a normal boot.

Honestly your best bet to completely get rid of it is to reformat the HDD and start anew...

Good luck! I know it's a real PITA....
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:37 pm

This will fix ya up...had a couple of PC's infected with it...

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:48 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Thread starter):
Do NOT, proceed with that option. This program is used to steal your money. Basically, you input your credit card info, thinking you are buying a good antivirus

Do not proceed to "buy" anything via an unsolicited pop-up. Do not trust something you didn't install that claims to have scanned your computer, without your consent, and found problems!

Quoting AverageUser (Reply 2):
This is a bog standard behaviour pattern for malware

 checkmark  I know a few people who aren't very computer-savvy who've very nearly fallen for things like this recently. Fortunately they twigged that something didn't add up.

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Thread starter):
I help a lot of people out if they have CPU problems, but I got hit with a virus last night on the computer I regularly use. I am using my other home CPU right now

Do you mean "computer" rather than the central processing unit?
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:09 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
What sort of sites were you on before or while you got hit by the virus? Do you do any gaming online or anything similar? Any idea where you got it from? Were you on IE or Firefox or another browser?

I was on firefox. I clicked on a link that I thought was for the geo-eye satellite imagery for Haiti, then all of sudden, all these things started happening.

Quoting AverageUser (Reply 2):
It seems this trojan is actually quite simple to remove compared to many others,

Yea, there were about six trojans on the cpu as well as a few others.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 3):
download Malwarebytes'

Yea, that's what I downloaded to get rid of the trojans. As of now it seems virus free and i'm using it right now, but i'm monitoring it closely.

Quoting David L (Reply 5):

Do you mean "computer" rather than the central processing unit?

Yea I mean computer. I stayed up until almost 5 am est. and I've been recovering my comp. for the last 10 hours or so. It seems to be working fine now, because i'm using it. For anyone who needs advice if they have a similar situation, just respond and i'll tell you how I got rid of my viruses.

As a side not, and probably why i'm hoping that my comp. isn't still infected, dell was charging me $130 just to take the viruses off for me. So i'm glad I could save some money there.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:53 pm



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 3):

Honestly your best bet to completely get rid of it is to reformat the HDD and start anew...

I got hit with a powerful virus as this morning with Firefox while reading the news of the fake $500 USD bill on Yahoo. I also have a tab open with Facebook, it's either Facebook or Yahoo that I got this virus. I couldn't believe that I got hit with this virus after scanning with the latest update AVG and Spybot a few hours before. So this virus must have been very new, (forgot the name). Spybot dectected this bloody virus and gave a warning that this thing called 'disabledesktop' something like that wants to change the registry and the add on value '1'. I knew there is something unusual and pressed the deny button and Firefox stalled. Then I tried to open the task manager to force shut Firefox but a warning came up 'task manager disable'. Then my wallpaper disapeared and this message now became my wallpaper 'Your Computer is Infected' how gay is that? Then I pressed the button to reboot the computer and after rebooting I got a warning message from Spybot warning me that the computer is infected and will try to remove the threat. I went ahead and clicked ok and the screen just went blank and restart. Time after time after loading has finished the computer reboots itself. All the Safe modes, last known confuguration, start windows normally were useless and after you select them after the computer loads it reboots itself. Then I managed to go into MS-DOS and tried to load windows, but it prompt a password. I had no choice but reformat the HDD. Never seen something so severe as this. I never had any virus or attacks for years. The last one I had was the w32blaster.
Just don't know how this managed to go in ant take control of my computer. Maybe it's a worm that came from Facebook?
Well I started all over again and my computer now runs faster but i've lost a few files but nothing much. Reinstalling software is a pain now.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:09 am



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
What sort of sites were you on before or while you got hit by the virus?

I hope you weren't on any illicit sites FuturePilot! You'll need that eyesight to persue your vacation. Slain kittens aside,,,, I got a horrible virus showing much the same signs and it took my big bro a full day to get rid of it. It affected EVERYTHING and even deleted some photos. One of the pitfalls of the net...
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:12 am



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 3):
Your best chance at getting rid of that yourself are to go to an uninfected computer, download Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware and a good free antivirus program like avast! from TRUSTED sites, and putting them on a flash drive, booting up your computer in safe mode, and running each of them several times. You'll also want to do several boot-time scans with the antivirus program. Then run them all again in a normal boot.

My wife's netbook was hit this morning with EXACTLY the same attack. A royal pain in the ass. The netbook runs on Windows XP.

Safe mode booting has been disabled, my only choice is to boot normally. I tried to run Spybot, but the malware seems to slow it down to a crawl and eventually crashes the computer before the scan can be completed.

It also turns off any firewalls you have. If you turn the firewall back on, it will be off again next time you reboot.

This is one of the nastiest attacks I've ever gotten.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:58 am

I'd be interested to hear what operating systems you all are running. The XP users really need to be running in something other than Administration mode. Getting regular updates is imperative too.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:14 am



Quoting Bhill (Reply 4):
This will fix ya up...had a couple of PC's infected with it...

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

Worked like a charm. It found about 40 instances on the first pass, then another 40 or so on the second pass, and I'm back in business. I was really expecting to have to reinstall, especially since the bug even managed to disable safe mode.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:13 am



Quoting Mham001 (Reply 10):
Im using Windows7 with Microsoft Security Essentials. They say Microsoft has changed the game in free security programs now and I believe it. Its a free download.

It's still not better than Avast! or Clam, though.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:50 am



Quoting David L (Reply 5):
Do not proceed to "buy" anything via an unsolicited pop-up.

The other thing to remember with pop-ups that you did not intend to initiate is to not click on ANYTHING in the pop-up. Many malware programs are designed such that clicking the "no" or "x" cause the same action as clicking "yes". I had it happen once and ever since if a undesired pop-up appears I go to task manager and just kill the browser or if I have to, do a hard shutdown immediately and start up in safe mode, scanning and fixing things.

I haven't had a major infection or problem in a long time now though as I am careful with my surfing, I avoid all sites in dangerous countries (.cn, .ru, .bu, .hk, .cm, etc. I actually have these complete blocked, I can't even see them/go to them.), happily search engines now help you by warning of potentially bad sites, I keep current with my AV and anti-spyware updates, I block pop-ups (always concerns me out when one does pop up, I run script blocking (a bit annoying as it stops many sites from working at all but I'd rather have the control over what runs and what doesn't), and I am suspicious of anytime my harddrive starts accessing when I have done anything to make it run.

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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:17 am

Malawarebytes, used in conjunction with Avast! has kept me worry-free for awhile. Highly recommended.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:06 pm



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 12):
It's still not better than Avast! or Clam, though.

Not being a jerk here. Asking a serious question. How do you know this?

I just installed MSE (after learning about it here) and took off Avast! so I'd like some information on which one to keep. I did my first full system and it found 4 virus issues (all on a backup drive of data saved from my old computer) that Avast! has apparently missed for YEARS.

It's my opinion that Microsoft knows its OS better than anyone, of course, and they could make the best AV/anti-malware program based on that alone. However, that being said, if Microsoft Security Essentials becomes the standard AV program used, it will be targeted to be hacked more often.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:20 pm

Just in case you might not have been aware:

Security experts recommend to stop using Internet Explorer (all recent versions) until Microsoft will have patched a critical vulnerability. This vulnerability is already being exploited, and possibly some of the infections above may have been the result.

It is recommended to use a current version of a reliable alternate browser.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:24 pm



Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):

It is recommended to use a current version of a reliable alternate browser.

Back when it was merely either Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator / Mozilla Firefox, I can understand the reluctance of some people to switch, but now with so many great browsers for Windows and Mac like Apple Safari or Google Chrome, there is no reason to switch away from Explorer!
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:25 pm

FuturePilot16, I hope you have gotten your computer problems fixed, and virus or trojin really sucks.

I am now just setting up my new Dell laptop, it has windows 7, a 64 bit OS and of course Avast. I hope I am protected, at least for a while.

But, thanks for the warning this thing is out there looking to spread.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:33 pm



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 15):
Not being a jerk here. Asking a serious question. How do you know this?

Just because one anti-virus detects something that another doesn't means nothing, as there will be some that Avast! and Clam detect that MS does not; although, for all practical purposes, theoretically, all anti-viruses should catch detect all viruses at the same rate or percentage. The main thing here is the useability of the software.

Also, Avast does on-access scans to avoid issues with performance, and will only do full system scans when asked, or when its screen-saver is running.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Ni

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:39 pm



Quoting Elite (Reply 17):
Back when it was merely either Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator / Mozilla Firefox, I can understand the reluctance of some people to switch, but now with so many great browsers for Windows and Mac like Apple Safari or Google Chrome, there is no reason to switch away from Explorer!

I guess you meant ...no reason not to switch..., didn't you?

Most of the discussions about malware removal are secondary unless the entry point through which it would re-enter the system will have been fixed...
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:03 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
Security experts recommend to stop using Internet Explorer (all recent versions) until Microsoft will have patched a critical vulnerability. This vulnerability is already being exploited, and possibly some of the infections above may have been the result.

Thread starter said he was using Firefox. Not Internet Explorer:

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 6):
I was on firefox. I clicked on a link that I thought was for the geo-eye satellite imagery for Haiti, then all of sudden, all these things started happening.

Hey.. look at this. Another poster, said the same:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 7):
I got hit with a powerful virus as this morning with Firefox while reading the news of the fake $500 USD bill on Yahoo

So much for blaming it on a Microsoft program, as always, Klaus...

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 19):
The main thing here is the useability of the software.

Also, Avast does on-access scans to avoid issues with performance, and will only do full system scans when asked, or when its screen-saver is running.

Usability of the software has NOTHING to do with outright performance of the Anti-Virus Program to stop threats. NOTHING. Just because it's using less system resources doesn't mean it stops things better. I'll give up a little performance to have a safer program, which you haven't told me a thing about which one is better. And if you're so concerned about performing a full system scan causing a resource problem, you can schedule it to do it's work while you are sleeping or even turn it off all together.
All that being said, I notice MSE using NO more System Resources than Avast! ever did.

So unless you can outright prove that one AV program can do a better job of stopping threats, you can't make the statement that Avast! or Clam is better. You just can't.

[Edited 2010-01-17 06:04:38]
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:08 pm



Quoting Tugger (Reply 13):
The other thing to remember with pop-ups that you did not intend to initiate is to not click on ANYTHING in the pop-up. Many malware programs are designed such that clicking the "no" or "x" cause the same action as clicking "yes". I had it happen once and ever since if a undesired pop-up appears I go to task manager and just kill the browser or if I have to, do a hard shutdown immediately and start up in safe mode, scanning and fixing things.

I know that, but this particular case of malware disabled the Task Manager as well as Safe Mode boot-up.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:23 pm



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
And if you're so concerned about performing a full system scan causing a resource problem, you can schedule it to do it's work while you are sleeping or even turn it off all together.

It runs with the screensaver. No need to schedule it.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
Usability of the software has NOTHING to do with outright performance of the Anti-Virus Program to stop threats.

No, it doesn't, but being able to peruse the interface, change options, and be specific about them DOES make a difference. THAT is usability.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
I'll give up a little performance to have a safer program, which you haven't told me a thing about which one is better.

Unless I infest my system with every single virus, worm, malware, etc. out there, there's no way for me to test that, and I'm not about to do that to stroke your ego. I'll leave that to the experts who test these things on a regular basis and post their results.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:57 pm



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 23):
I'll leave that to the experts who test these things on a regular basis and post their results.

Which is what you should do. That's the information I was looking for when I asked. When you claimed Avast! and Clam were better, I wanted to see where you were getting this information from. Apparently, no where, as of yet. So please, unless you have rock solid evidence of a program doing a better job of protecting a computer, don't make the claim its better. Sure, you have an opinion, and I'd love to hear that too because I know peoples experience in products is a great thing to know too, but be up front and state it's based on your use and opinion, and not fact.
Listen, I like Avast! and it's been very reliable over the past years I've used it. I can't remember when I started using it, but it must be at least 5+ years ago. I've even recommended it here plenty of times. It still has let some things (very few, but ALL AV's let stuff in) into my system in the past, as evidenced in the 4 virus issues MSE found last night, so I'm always looking for a better program.
So when MSE comes along, and someone claims Avast! is better, I'd like to know how and why, and what tests have been done to prove this. And that's why I asked.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:09 pm



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 24):
Sure, you have an opinion, and I'd love to hear that too because I know peoples experience in products is a great thing to know too, but be up front and state it's based on your use and opinion, and not fact.

You assumed it was a fact from me, and I never said it was. There's no rule that says that anyone has to append small print to each and every word they type. You should know better than that to interpret everything you read on a forum as fact.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:17 pm



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
Thread starter said he was using Firefox. Not Internet Explorer:



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
So much for blaming it on a Microsoft program, as always, Klaus...

Neither said they hadn't used IE before or alternatingly. And the current situation needs to be known either way - it is a major threat at this time.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:18 pm



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 25):
You assumed it was a fact from me, and I never said it was

No I did not. That's why I asked you where you got the information from. It's a simple method if separating those who know what they are talking about and can back it by facts, and those who don't who are trying to convince people they do.
Now I know what to do with your opinion of Avast! and Clam. It's already filed away.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:20 pm



Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
Security experts recommend to stop using Internet Explorer (all recent versions) until Microsoft will have patched a

I stopped using it. I also highly recommend downloading malwarebytes, because it helped me to fix my comp.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:46 pm



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 27):
It's a simple method if separating those who know what they are talking about and can back it by facts, and those who don't who are trying to convince people they do.

The problem here, is that YOU can't prove which one is ultimately better, either, but that's why you asked. Unfortunately, all you'll get here is opinions, because even if we quoted statistics, there's going to be personal bias. And then you have the people who say that viruses are created by the anti-virus companies, and never put one one. Then you have the Mac camp who chant the manta of "we don't need an anti-virus."

If you want facts, consult a security firm. If you want opinion, ask here.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 27):
Now I know what to do with your opinion of Avast! and Clam. It's already filed away.

And with that, you're being a jerk.  Wink
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:07 pm



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 28):
I stopped using it.

And by doing so, look what it got you. The worst virus you've ever had!  fever 

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 29):
And with that, you're being a jerk.

Thanks for "stroking my ego!"  Wink
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:06 pm



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 25):

You assumed it was a fact from me, and I never said it was.

You said it as a statement of fact. Not an opinion, not a thought but as a fact. We are asking you for some evidence through testing so that everybody can make an informed decision.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
Security experts recommend to stop using Internet Explorer (all recent versions) until Microsoft will have patched a critical vulnerability. This vulnerability is already being exploited, and possibly some of the infections above may have been the result.

What security experts? The vulnerability can only be exploited on XP machines running IE6 and IE7.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
It is recommended to use a current version of a reliable alternate browser.

By whom, exactly?

Quoting Klaus (Reply 26):

Neither said they hadn't used IE before or alternatingly.

And since 95.57% of people never said they hadn't eaten beans before contracting influenza, we can assume they had and the beans were the cause of their virus?

Windows users, especially those not getting regular updates might want to look at this page and at least run the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool.

http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Ni

Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:33 pm



Quoting Mham001 (Reply 31):
What security experts? The vulnerability can only be exploited on XP machines running IE6 and IE7.

That statement is not just incorrect, but also dangerous for users who might incorrectly believe themselves being secure. The vulnerability affects IE8 as well, depending on system settings.

Microsoft Security Advisory (979352): Vulnerability in Internet Explorer Could Allow Remote Code Execution

Quote:
Our investigation so far has shown that Internet Explorer 5.01 Service Pack 4 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 is not affected, and that Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, and Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8 on supported editions of Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 are vulnerable.



Quoting Mham001 (Reply 31):
Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
It is recommended to use a current version of a reliable alternate browser.

By whom, exactly?

Pretty much everybody except Microsoft themselves, who'd rather have their customers staying with IE and merely reducing the risk somewhat instead of actually removing it.

Quoting Mham001 (Reply 31):
Quoting Klaus (Reply 26):

Neither said they hadn't used IE before or alternatingly.

And since 95.57% of people never said they hadn't eaten beans before contracting influenza, we can assume they had and the beans were the cause of their virus?

If eating beans significantly elevated your health risk, similar advisories would have to be issued as well.

At this point using IE is (again) a major threat to the security of a Windows system, so using one of the less risky alternatives is advisable at this point.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:57 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 32):
That statement is not just incorrect, but also dangerous for users who might incorrectly believe themselves being secure. The vulnerability affects IE8 as well, depending on system settings.

Microsoft Security Advisory (979352): Vulnerability in Internet Explorer Could Allow Remote Code Execution

Microsoft is covering all the bases for anybody who may have played with their settings, however IE8 ships with Data Execution Prevention(DEP) enabled by default, which protects against this exploit. How many people change that setting?
Currently, the exploit has ONLY hit IE5 and IE6 and only Windows 2000 and XP.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 32):

At this point using IE is (again) a major threat to the security of a Windows system, so using one of the less risky alternatives is advisable at this point.

And yet, most of the people in this thread who are currently being hit by what seems to be a resurgence of the Sasser virus are all running Firefox (as I do). Should we all trashcan Firefox too?

[Edited 2010-01-17 14:21:58 by srbmod]
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Ni

Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:12 pm

As to IE8, it is affected, depending on the configuration. Especially with the risk that other malware might have fiddled with the system settings it would not be a good idea to be complacent there.

[Edited 2010-01-17 14:22:43 by srbmod]
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:49 am

I too just got hit now with this and I was using Firefox. Luckily I am able to log on to safe mode and run the already installed malwarebytes software that I updated this morning thanks to reading this thread.
Funny but a few hours ago I accidentally clicked on a link that didn't seem write then sure enough an hour ago I got that "infected" warning.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:06 pm



Quoting Tugger (Reply 13):
The other thing to remember with pop-ups that you did not intend to initiate is to not click on ANYTHING in the pop-up.

Good point.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 12):
It's still not better than Avast! or Clam, though.

Is there a genuinely free version of Avast? I tried what I thought was a free version some time ago and got a reminder soon afterwards that the trial period was about to expire so I went back to AVG Free.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:57 pm



Quoting David L (Reply 36):
Is there a genuinely free version of Avast? I tried what I thought was a free version some time ago and got a reminder soon afterwards that the trial period was about to expire so I went back to AVG Free.

Avast! is no-cost-to-you; the only caveat is that you give your email address so that they can send you the registration code. I've not seen any spam from them, either (that I know of, thanks to pre-filtered email.)
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:21 pm



Quoting Bhill (Reply 4):
This will fix ya up...had a couple of PC's infected with it...

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
Worked like a charm. It found about 40 instances on the first pass, then another 40 or so on the second pass, and I'm back in business. I was really expecting to have to reinstall, especially since the bug even managed to disable safe mode.

I got the same virus on my netbook a few weeks ago. I tried installing mbam but the virus wouldn't let it run unless i renamed the file. I got the program to finally work, but it freezes up during the scan and I have to reboot. I should give it another shot sometime; I'd rather try it a few times before just reformatting the hard drive. I really don't want to do that, as the computer doesn't have a CD-ROM drive and therefore it'll be a hassle reinstalling the OS.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):

MC, fwiw, this was the virus I had that I was telling you about in the chat.

I'm so glad this thread popped up (unfortunately).

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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:13 pm



Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 38):
I should give it another shot sometime;

You should always start from the safe mode and proceed from there. It's also possible to use an external USB CD-drive with the actual Windows boot CD-rom (and the oddly named "Repair" option from there for a brain-damaged command shell) for getting rid of the extra drivers that cause malware to be loaded.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:48 pm



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 37):
the only caveat is that you give your email address so that they can send you the registration code.

OK, I'll give it another go. Thanks.
 
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:40 pm

http://free.antivirus.com/hijackthis/

Best program ever! Ever single one of my malware/spyware/viruses have been defeated by this program. It scans your root registries and gives you a report on what is running in the back ground, then allows you to delete the registry that is running the malicious programs. Use caution though, as you could delete key registries that run your machine.
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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:54 am



Quoting AverageUser (Reply 39):
You should always start from the safe mode and proceed from there. It's also possible to use an external USB CD-drive with the actual Windows boot CD-rom (and the oddly named "Repair" option from there for a brain-damaged command shell) for getting rid of the extra drivers that cause malware to be loaded.

IIRC it freezes up in safe mode too. I'll give it another go or two tonight though and we'll see what happens. As for the external USB CD-ROM drive... I need to get my hands on one of those...

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RE: Got Hit With A Powerful Computer Virus Last Night

Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:36 am



Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 42):
IIRC it freezes up in safe mode too.

That would be odd, but a sporadically failing hard drive could give that indication when the scanning reaches a "bad" physical part of the drive. I'd give another scanner a try.

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